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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 28, 2022 11:51:35 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 28, 2022 12:12:35 GMT -5
The whole infrastructure...will be ...all the cars will be useless...
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 28, 2022 12:59:12 GMT -5
Yes, it is a singular catastrophic weather event...but because of climate change it will be the new normal...regularly ...and it will get even worse...and worse for the next 20/30 years ...we cannot stop this anymore...we only can try to stop crossing the tipping point.., in 20 years many places at Florida coast will be ocean ..trillions of dollars of damages...billions and billions each year... First let me state that I am not trying to minimize the long term effects of climate change. However, saying particular storm patterns are due to clumate change is the type of sensationalism that is the reason so few take it seriously. According to Al Gore's infamous propaganda film, Manhattan should have been underwater a decade ago. The effects of climate change operate on a much slower scale, will not generate clear cut differences until a critical point is reached, and then all hell breaks loose. Storms like the current one occurring on the gulf coast are about as surprising as a tornado showing up in Kansas or a sandstorm in the Sahara. What makes this storm unusual is not just severity but location. For example, Katrina was intense but there had been worse- what made it so bad is New Orleans was built under sea level and the barriers failed. Until now, this had been a pretty mild storm season in the Carribbean. If you want to know what would be scary about climate change, it isn't a few bad hurricanes. It's an Antarctic ice shelf collapsing huge amounts of fresh water into the Atlantic, shutting down the oceanic conveyor, and having glaciers start rolling down into Canada and Europe. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 28, 2022 15:52:53 GMT -5
Yes, it is a singular catastrophic weather event...but because of climate change it will be the new normal...regularly ...and it will get even worse...and worse for the next 20/30 years ...we cannot stop this anymore...we only can try to stop crossing the tipping point.., in 20 years many places at Florida coast will be ocean ..trillions of dollars of damages...billions and billions each year... First let me state that I am not trying to minimize the long term effects of climate change. However, saying particular storm patterns are due to clumate change is the type of sensationalism that is the reason so few take it seriously. According to Al Gore's infamous propaganda film, Manhattan should have been underwater a decade ago. The effects of climate change operate on a much slower scale, will not generate clear cut differences until a critical point is reached, and then all hell breaks loose. Storms like the current one occurring on the gulf coast are about as surprising as a tornado showing up in Kansas or a sandstorm in the Sahara. What makes this storm unusual is not just severity but location. For example, Katrina was intense but there had been worse- what made it so bad is New Orleans was built under sea level and the barriers failed. Until now, this had been a pretty mild storm season in the Carribbean. If you want to know what would be scary about climate change, it isn't a few bad hurricanes. It's an Antarctic ice shelf collapsing huge amounts of fresh water into the Atlantic, shutting down the oceanic conveyor, and having glaciers start rolling down into Canada and Europe. a little update Fort Myers |
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 28, 2022 16:34:46 GMT -5
First let me state that I am not trying to minimize the long term effects of climate change. However, saying particular storm patterns are due to clumate change is the type of sensationalism that is the reason so few take it seriously. According to Al Gore's infamous propaganda film, Manhattan should have been underwater a decade ago. The effects of climate change operate on a much slower scale, will not generate clear cut differences until a critical point is reached, and then all hell breaks loose. Storms like the current one occurring on the gulf coast are about as surprising as a tornado showing up in Kansas or a sandstorm in the Sahara. What makes this storm unusual is not just severity but location. For example, Katrina was intense but there had been worse- what made it so bad is New Orleans was built under sea level and the barriers failed. Until now, this had been a pretty mild storm season in the Carribbean. If you want to know what would be scary about climate change, it isn't a few bad hurricanes. It's an Antarctic ice shelf collapsing huge amounts of fresh water into the Atlantic, shutting down the oceanic conveyor, and having glaciers start rolling down into Canada and Europe. a little update Fort Myers Not surprising. If you build houses on what used to be swampland and send a Category 4 hurrucane their way, this will be the result. Here are some other brilliant examples of urban planning: build a city below sea level and wonder why you get flooding (New Orleans), build farmland on a desert and wonder why there are droughts (Napa Valley), Build houses within a mile of an active volcano and wonder why lava ends up in their living room (Hawaii), build the most populous city in North America on half a dozen major fault lines and then fret about earthquakes (Los Angeles). We think we can conquer nature; every so often nature dwcides to voice a dissenting view. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 28, 2022 17:07:25 GMT -5
a little update Fort Myers Not surprising. If you build houses on what used to be swampland and send a Category 4 hurrucane their way, this will be the result. Here are some other brilliant examples of urban planning: build a city below sea level and wonder why you get flooding (New Orleans), build farmland on a desert and wonder why there are droughts (Napa Valley), Build houses within a mile of an active volcano and wonder why lava ends up in their living room (Hawaii), build the most populous city in North America on half a dozen major fault lines and then fret about earthquakes (Los Angeles). We think we can conquer nature; every so often nature dwcides to voice a dissenting view. update: (original source) www.instagram.com/reel/CjEIf9us023/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= |
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Post by donkey on Sept 28, 2022 21:14:19 GMT -5
First let me state that I am not trying to minimize the long term effects of climate change. However, saying particular storm patterns are due to clumate change is the type of sensationalism that is the reason so few take it seriously. According to Al Gore's infamous propaganda film, Manhattan should have been underwater a decade ago. The effects of climate change operate on a much slower scale, will not generate clear cut differences until a critical point is reached, and then all hell breaks loose. Storms like the current one occurring on the gulf coast are about as surprising as a tornado showing up in Kansas or a sandstorm in the Sahara. What makes this storm unusual is not just severity but location. For example, Katrina was intense but there had been worse- what made it so bad is New Orleans was built under sea level and the barriers failed. Until now, this had been a pretty mild storm season in the Carribbean. If you want to know what would be scary about climate change, it isn't a few bad hurricanes. It's an Antarctic ice shelf collapsing huge amounts of fresh water into the Atlantic, shutting down the oceanic conveyor, and having glaciers start rolling down into Canada and Europe. a little update Fort Yes, hurricanes can do this and have done so many times before…has nothing to do with climate change. In fact, this has been an incredibly slow hurricane season. Try again. LoL |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 30, 2022 20:39:22 GMT -5
Yes, hurricanes can do this and have done so many times before…has nothing to do with climate change. In fact, this has been an incredibly slow hurricane season. Try again. LoL Perhaps you believe him...it is really basic common knowledge... |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Sept 30, 2022 21:20:25 GMT -5
Yes, it is a singular catastrophic weather event...but because of climate change it will be the new normal...regularly ...and it will get even worse...and worse for the next 20/30 years ...we cannot stop this anymore...we only can try to stop crossing the tipping point.., in 20 years many places at Florida coast will be ocean ..trillions of dollars of damages...billions and billions each year... First let me state that I am not trying to minimize the long term effects of climate change. However, saying particular storm patterns are due to clumate change is the type of sensationalism that is the reason so few take it seriously. According to Al Gore's infamous propaganda film, Manhattan should have been underwater a decade ago. The effects of climate change operate on a much slower scale, will not generate clear cut differences until a critical point is reached, and then all hell breaks loose. Storms like the current one occurring on the gulf coast are about as surprising as a tornado showing up in Kansas or a sandstorm in the Sahara. What makes this storm unusual is not just severity but location. For example, Katrina was intense but there had been worse- what made it so bad is New Orleans was built under sea level and the barriers failed. Until now, this had been a pretty mild storm season in the Carribbean. If you want to know what would be scary about climate change, it isn't a few bad hurricanes. It's an Antarctic ice shelf collapsing huge amounts of fresh water into the Atlantic, shutting down the oceanic conveyor, and having glaciers start rolling down into Canada and Europe. Not the only problem...no Florida anymore... investing in houses in Florida is pretty stupid www.floodmap.net/?ll=28.110749,-83.867969&z=6&e=10  |
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Post by BOGC on Oct 1, 2022 2:55:41 GMT -5
Extreme ecofreaks are their own cause's enemy. To get to a "cleaner" arrangement without killing off lots of people or greatly reducing their lifestyles requires a vibrant economy to support technology development, manufacture, deployment and infrastructure etc.
You CANNOT conserve your way there, and pricing legacy energy out of existence before its replacements are widely and competitively available with problems like uneven supply of wind or solar solved, will FAIL MASSIVELY.
Poor people, including those who cannot afford to relocate, will die whether they can no longer afford food and shelter, or whether flooding, drought, etc kill them. It can't be prevented either way, and "rich" "privileged" developed countries giving up their lifestyle will not save many of them.
Until Tesla and competitors rule, and modern (pebble-bed or better) nuclear power is widely deployed so that all that electrically powered stuff is actually clean, DRILL BABY DRILL. And at least metaphorically smack upside the head any ecofreak you meet, to let them know THEY are what stands in the way of what they (claim to - if you look at what some say, it's really about absolute power over everyone) want.
edit: and the EU shows how stupid it is to cut off domestic energy production and outsource it to those who cannot be trusted, especially in a time of transition where we need the old to work our way to its replacement.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Oct 12, 2022 20:08:50 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 10, 2023 10:20:07 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 10, 2023 10:21:27 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Jan 10, 2023 20:08:46 GMT -5
Good I can ride my motorcycle all year long instead of just 8 or 9 months.
The earth is still to cold for the maximum amount of food growth. As the ice melt in northern Canada the remains of giant mammoths are uncovered and you know they didn't live off ice.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 11, 2023 0:40:54 GMT -5
Good I can ride my motorcycle all year long instead of just 8 or 9 months.
The earth is still to cold for the maximum amount of food growth. As the ice melt in northern Canada the remains of giant mammoths are uncovered and you know they didn't live off ice.
No wall will stop the millions and millions and millions each year …even many parts of the USA will be no place to live..Florida and many coasts will be flooded..you will be dead and your grandkids will be doomed www.bbc.com/future/article/20221117-how-borders-might-change-to-cope-with-climate-migration |
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