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Post by jrchico on Oct 30, 2017 16:17:23 GMT -5
The "tyranny of circumstances" will give us a Democratic Congress. What is that tyranny? Well, jrchico, The New York Times has just made a statement on the guilty plea of Trump adviser, George Papadopoulous: "The plea represents the most explicit evidence, that the Trump Campaign was aware, that the Russian Government was trying to help Mr. Trump and the campaign was eager to accept that help." Folks, this thing is not going to go away. It is just the beginning. Do you seriously think our CIA is not guilty of doing the same thing in other countries? If you do, you are not living in the real world. |
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Post by gauchoguy on Oct 30, 2017 17:07:14 GMT -5
The "tyranny of circumstances" will give us a Democratic Congress. What is that tyranny? Well, jrchico, The New York Times has just made a statement on the guilty plea of Trump adviser, George Papadopoulous: "The plea represents the most explicit evidence, that the Trump Campaign was aware, that the Russian Government was trying to help Mr. Trump and the campaign was eager to accept that help." Folks, this thing is not going to go away. It is just the beginning. Do you seriously think our CIA is not guilty of doing the same thing in other countries? If you do, you are not living in the real world. Your point would be a good one if the controversy was only about reprimanding Russia for meddling in our election process. But that's not the offense of primary concern. It's about members of a U.S. presidential campaign colluding with the meddling foreign agents. IMO, the rationale of being so dismissive and untroubled by that is tantamount to being unconcerned about a U.S. citizen giving away Top Secret information to a foreign country because, after all, the C.I.A. tries to get people in foreign countries to do the same. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 30, 2017 17:51:17 GMT -5
Do you seriously think our CIA is not guilty of doing the same thing in other countries? If the CIA is not doing the same thing in other countries, then they are not doing their job. |
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Post by jrchico on Oct 30, 2017 20:56:32 GMT -5
Do you seriously think our CIA is not guilty of doing the same thing in other countries? If you do, you are not living in the real world. Your point would be a good one if the controversy was only about reprimanding Russia for meddling in our election process. But that's not the offense of primary concern. It's about members of a U.S. presidential campaign colluding with the meddling foreign agents. IMO, the rationale of being so dismissive and untroubled by that is tantamount to being unconcerned about a U.S. citizen giving away Top Secret information to a foreign country because, after all, the C.I.A. tries to get people in foreign countries to do the same. IMO, if it took the Russian government to get the Donald elected, good for them. I am glad they were so successful. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 21:11:59 GMT -5
The Brookings Institution found that President Trump committed several impeachable offenses. As soon as we get a Democratic Congress, he is out of there!
We have had two Presidents impeached in our history, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Neither was removed from office. Keep dreaming. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 31, 2017 0:25:14 GMT -5
We have had two Presidents impeached in our history, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Neither was removed from office. Good point. Removing a President means going against the will of the people. Congress is very hesitant to do that, and rightly so. |
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Post by stephenswinkler on Oct 31, 2017 19:47:09 GMT -5
Congress is the will of the people too. Johnson escaped impeachment by only one vote, so that is not a good example. A Democratic Senate is not going to remove a Democratic president from office in the case of Bill Clinton.
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Post by stephenswinkler on Oct 31, 2017 19:58:54 GMT -5
"Andrew Johnson is innocent, because Ben Wade is guilty of being his successor." The President Pro Tempore of the Senate was Senator Benjamin Franklin Wade and if Congress impeached President Johnson, Wade would have become the 18th president. However, Wade was too extreme even for the most Radical Republicans and he had made some enemies. Going against the will of the people had nothing to do with it. The Republican Senate would rather have Johnson in the White House, who would have to fight for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1868, then having to deal with a President Wade, who most likely would win the Republican presidential nomination and then, they would be stuck with him for eight years.
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 2, 2017 12:49:40 GMT -5
The "tyranny of circumstances" will give us a Democratic Congress. What is that tyranny? Well, jrchico, The New York Times has just made a statement on the guilty plea of Trump adviser, George Papadopoulous: "The plea represents the most explicit evidence, that the Trump Campaign was aware, that the Russian Government was trying to help Mr. Trump and the campaign was eager to accept that help." Folks, this thing is not going to go away. It is just the beginning. HaHaHa Yes , just the beginning of showing Mr Trump had nothing to do with the Russian hacks , the Russian knew he was the best pick , lets see if other party is clean , that's all folks !!!!!! MAGA |
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Post by stephenswinkler on Nov 2, 2017 14:50:39 GMT -5
The Trump Administration is extremely cruel on immigration and very vindictive on affordable health care. Hillary Clinton was the best pick, but Jeb Bush would have been a better pick than Trump. To having voted for Trump, you would have to be an idiot with brains one degree less than a moron.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 16:23:33 GMT -5
The Trump Administration is extremely cruel on immigration and very vindictive on affordable health care. Either you're so broke that you pay nothing for your health insurance, or you're one of the lucky ones who's being covered by your employer. A Silver, PPO Capital Blue Cross plan, with a $5,000 deductible and maximum out of pocket is $7,350, is now $2,318.23/month. I know, I have the numbers right in front of me, that's my plan. So thanks a lot, Obama, and thank you, stevenswinkler, if you voted him. And you have the nerve to call Trump voters morons! LOL. |
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Post by jrchico on Nov 2, 2017 20:35:52 GMT -5
The Trump Administration is extremely cruel on immigration and very vindictive on affordable health care. Hillary Clinton was the best pick, but Jeb Bush would have been a better pick than Trump. To having voted for Trump, you would have to be an idiot with brains one degree less than a moron. Well, I voted for President Trump and will do it again so in your eyes i am a moron. In my eyes i am just richer. I live on my investments and thanks to our President I now make 20% more than i did before he was elected so would i do it again? Hell yes. |
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Post by agog on Nov 2, 2017 21:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by agog on Nov 2, 2017 21:24:08 GMT -5
The Trump Administration is extremely cruel on immigration and very vindictive on affordable health care. Hillary Clinton was the best pick, but Jeb Bush would have been a better pick than Trump. To having voted for Trump, you would have to be an idiot with brains one degree less than a moron. Stephen, I enjoy following and discussing politics. But how is a person going to discuss anything with partisan liberals who all seem to think making wild accusations is discussion. Trump; extremely cruel, vindictive on affordable health care. Trump voter; idiot, less than moron. Stephen, unicorns don't really poop cupcakes and government health care is not affordable. See socalfan's post above. Please try to form cogent ideas supporting your political position. Write them down. Adults can have an online discussion that way. |
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 3, 2017 10:24:38 GMT -5
The Trump Administration is extremely cruel on immigration and very vindictive on affordable health care. Hillary Clinton was the best pick, but Jeb Bush would have been a better pick than Trump. To having voted for Trump, you would have to be an idiot with brains one degree less than a moron. LOOK WHO IS TALKING ( O ^ O ) duh , haha , she called them a name and lost , haha |
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