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Post by Beachguy on Aug 5, 2019 12:19:17 GMT -5
It not about gun control , a gun has no action But nuclear weapons have not action either. So no one should be worried about North Korea or Iran having nuclear weapons. Anyone should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, they are completely harmless.  100% right , it is the human that has the harm .There will be more nations with it , they all have the right |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 5, 2019 12:52:23 GMT -5
Did they have guns in the wild west ? yes and some towns one needed to check it in the Sheriff office etc etc , people used guns mostly for their safety , the bad guys could always get a gun as true today , dem nasty people would love strict gun laws , they don't obey the laws . The USA needed that gun control beginning after War ll , may have worked then but it will never , never happen now . i have no problem with banning ak14 or ak 47 or the like except for law enforcement people and military , my Police officer son has a ak47 in his police car and house for good reason , last year he fired 4 clips of 30 rounds each at a house after two men shot 4 cops , killing two , the gunmen gave up after a 30 minute fight , the gunmen had long range rifles ..but again there will always be a black market for ones with the means and $$$$ , what if one person had a gun in these two killings places .Walmart has no armed guard but a little Food Lion store up the street has a hired gun guard ?? , how do all those men in the windy city that kill 10 people on one week end get guns ? duh not legally . Laws and background checks mean nothing , if they want one they will get one ...i typed in ak47 on computer and got for sale , 10 sites,, { }black market store ... Build it ...they will come
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 5, 2019 22:19:33 GMT -5
Agreed. We are hopelessly in debt due to politician buying votes with entitlements. But tax deductions for philanthropy (which should be encouraged regardless of which cause) are a drop in the bucket compared to the massive waste in government spending. Just look at the billions of dollars wasted on Baltimore, with no results to show for it. And not just Baltimore. Multiple big cities, still being run by corrupt political machines, which suck up most of the federal money for both the personal use of their leaders or the political benefit of their adherents. You are hopelessly in debt because of the parasatic attidude of most US citizens plus wasting over 600 billion now for defence same time big companies not paying one cent of taxes. www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/15/amazon-tax-bill-2018-no-taxes-despite-billions-profitA sane healty society can only work if everyone who is able pays his share. A working health care system would be no problem..even far cheaper than today..a health care system with the goal of profit cannot work... Tuition free universities no problem..great education for everyone as a real investment in future of society - no problem. Osama bin Laden should have invested in NRA and US health care system..he would have gotten no problems, perhaps even promoted to adviser of Trump/Republican Party..same time following his goal to kill as many US citizen as possible..but letting them kill themselves  And the US people love it..they vote for this goal, they elect people who support this goal. Sorry for my cynism..but when german news started on Saturday with the El Paso events..a few hours later Dayton..in the long run US society will be dead ..and still at the end old white makes will discuss singers like JE. |
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Post by richard on Aug 5, 2019 22:49:16 GMT -5
Sorry for my cynism..but when german news started on Saturday with the El Paso events..a few hours later Dayton..in the long run US society will be dead ..and still at the end old white makes will discuss singers like JE. How many of your own country's citizens did Germany exterminate in the 1930 and 40's after they had gun confiscation. 170,000,000 people murdered by their own countries in the 20th century more than by wars after they implemented gun confiscation. This should be taught at every school world wide instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2019 1:03:51 GMT -5
Sorry for my cynism..but when german news started on Saturday with the El Paso events..a few hours later Dayton..in the long run US society will be dead ..and still at the end old white makes will discuss singers like JE. How many of your own country's citizens did Germany exterminate in the 1930 and 40's after they had gun confiscation. 170,000,000 people murdered by their own countries in the 20th century more than by wars after they implemented gun confiscation. This should be taught at every school world wide instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. Man people were killed...but we learned but you are not able to learn. I‘m simply annoyed by these trash videos. But as one victim of El Paso is a german I would really hope for a travel ban..telling german tourists if you are so crazy to travel to the USA...on your own risk. All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. |
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Post by richard on Aug 6, 2019 1:14:14 GMT -5
Trash video everything on it is a fact. As long as you have an armed citizenry that won't happen. If you don't have an armed citizenry than you are a police state.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 6, 2019 8:05:56 GMT -5
How many of your own country's citizens did Germany exterminate in the 1930 and 40's after they had gun confiscation. 170,000,000 people murdered by their own countries in the 20th century more than by wars after they implemented gun confiscation. This should be taught at every school world wide instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. Man people were killed...but we learned but you are not able to learn. I‘m simply annoyed by these trash videos. But as one victim of El Paso is a german I would really hope for a travel ban..telling german tourists if you are so crazy to travel to the USA...on your own risk. All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. hahaha look who is talking about blood , had to take guns from the German people , they follow crazy killers , stay home Germans |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 6, 2019 8:11:23 GMT -5
Trash video everything on it is a fact. As long as you have an armed citizenry that won't happen. If you don't have an armed citizenry than you are a police state. Correct and the Jews had no guns so the German were on their way to kill all the world if they could , no one in Germany with guts enough to stop their leader they loved .  |
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Post by outlier on Aug 6, 2019 11:14:11 GMT -5
Man people were killed...but we learned but you are not able to learn. All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. No, you haven't learned. It was the confiscation of guns that allowed the German government to carry out these atrocities. Law abiding gun owners provide a check on tyrannical government actions. |
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Post by agog on Aug 6, 2019 16:57:21 GMT -5
Man people were killed...but we learned but you are not able to learn. All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. No, you haven't learned. It was the confiscation of guns that allowed the German government to carry out these atrocities. Law abiding gun owners provide a check on tyrannical government actions. And it was the registration of firearms that allowed for the efficient and near absolute confiscation. The Reich merely declined to renew the owners registration. The law respecting, law abiding, German people dutifully turned their weapons over to the Polizei. Definition of "registration" of weapons: "You can trust us, tell us if you own weapons. Be sure to refresh your registration if you change address." |
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Post by agog on Aug 6, 2019 17:35:51 GMT -5
All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. What an absolutely typical "liberal" lack of reasoning and self righteous virtue signaling, compounded by a false accusation. Please Glockenspiel, explain how a "law abiding" citizen has blood on his hands. I'm a stupid American and just don't understand your superior reasoning skills. We in the U.S. have legal abortion "rights." Since 1973 we have murdered sixty-million human babies in their mother's womb. Talk about "Blood on our nation's soul." Yet you say agog having a firearm puts blood on my hands. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2019 17:53:45 GMT -5
All you law abiding gun owners have their hands covered in blood, no you are bathing in human blood. What an absolutely typical "liberal" lack of reasoning and self righteous virtue signaling, compounded by a false accusation. Please Glockenspiel, explain how a "law abiding" citizen has blood on his hands. I'm a stupid American and just don't understand your superior reasoning skills. We in the U.S. have legal abortion "rights." Since 1973 we have murdered sixty-million human babies in their mother's womb. Talk about "Blood on our nation's soul." Yet you say agog having a firearm puts blood on my hands. I know for years now that most of US NRA supporters don‘t realize or more likely don‘t want to realize their narcistic behaviour...never taking responsibility for their actions. Gun owning is not the problem but fighting gun control. And if there is no argument anymore - abortion..but having same time the blood of school pupils - e.g. Sandy Hook on his hand - no problem for agog  Many US citizens totally lack one percent of maturity. It‘s so easy to call for punishment, for death sentence ..but seeing own responsibility not so easy. 6 million jews were killed but only by a few 1000 germans ..but whole society was responsible..that is the point..every time all US gun owners who fight strict gun control pull the trigger ..are also killers. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 6, 2019 18:21:42 GMT -5
If you don't have an armed citizenry than you are a police state. Most 1st world countries have far fewer armed citizens than the US, but vast majority of the citizens of those countries do not think those countries are police states. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 6, 2019 18:30:20 GMT -5
Jews had no guns so the German were on their way to kill all the world if they could It was the confiscation of guns that allowed the German government to carry out these atrocities. In 1940, the allies had lots of guns. Plus 3.3M soldiers and 4K tanks. But they couldn't stop Hitler from conquering France. Civilians with guns would not have made any difference. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 6, 2019 18:34:02 GMT -5
Definition of "registration" of weapons: "You can trust us, tell us if you own weapons. Be sure to refresh your registration if you change address." Definition of opposing the "registration" of weapons: "You can trust us, we would never use our assault rifles for mass killings, or transfer our weapons to those who would." |
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And the US people love it..they vote for this goal, they elect people who support this goal.
Many US citizens totally lack one percent of maturity. It‘s so easy to call for punishment, for death sentence ..but seeing own responsibility not so easy. 6 million jews were killed but only by a few 1000 germans ..but whole society was responsible..that is the point..every time all US gun owners who fight strict gun control pull the trigger ..are also killers.