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David Ashton on March 26, 2020 at 6:24 pm
Hi Dave, I listen to a very wise man and when he first mentioned Q, he also stated all the arrests and trials will be a military operation. It has to be a total removal of corruption from the usurp attempt of the US Government and done instantly.

Obama put so many bad executive orders through and some in such timely manners that they went unnoticed with the help of the media.

For example Friday March 16, 2012 a Tyrannical Executive Order was put through at 5pm on the White House website (as required by law).

The media covered it up on Monday by another news story that was driven by the media and everyone fell for it.

One must ask oneself why an event that happened on February 26, 2012, suddenly came out of nowhere and became headline news on Monday, March 19, staying in the news for entire weeks, on into months.

Every radio news program and TV program echoed the story, and even some of the media reported their surprise of how big the story became of the shooting of Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watchman, George Zimmerman.

The story and the issues raised from this event is not the reason for bringing up this topic.

An investigation of the timing and the explosive manner the Martin-Zimmerman story broke out of nowhere three weeks after it happened, coming on the heels of Friday’s release, shows that the news story was chosen and packaged to be made so big as to help bury what happened Friday, March 16, 2012 at 5pm.

I have written this in the hope the Q is on to it (and all of that sort of Treasonous Obamas stuff).

Obama is pure evil and was part of the plan to destroy America from within.

Swift military trials with hangings is the only way to rid the USA of these evil people.

Then the World will follow and get their evil people out (as much as possible) because you are never going to get rid of it 100%.

Why do you think the European Union / One World Government mobs have been trying to get hangings outlawed in Countries – because in case they failed they knew they would be hanged.

[rickolsen]

I am not affected by the virus. I only go out maybe once a week for food. I have no other contact with people at all. I'm sure there are a lot of people in America like me. Basically shutins. My cats are healthy. That's what matters to me.

[BOGC]

Mar 26, 2020 20:39:01 GMT -5 1 Guest said:

Mar 26, 2020 19:06:17 GMT -5 BOGC said:

What you need is a tinfoil hat. Maybe it'd shield your brain, maybe not; but at least it'd warn other people what a rational person they were(n't!) dealing with.

The radar in an airplane (on the ground) can drop birds out of a nearby tree. I live near an airport; I haven't had my brain cooked yet.

EVERYTHING is dangerous. You can die from drinking too much water (depletes/dilutes electrolytes), stupid people have done that too.

(FWIW, I usually use my cell phone in speaker mode, not so much for safety (although there might be some) but for convenience.)

It's true that water is dangerous if you're stupid enough to drink enough to kill you, and COVID-19 is dangerous but I don't think you'd be stupid enough to knowingly sit in a room filled with people who have it, or then again maybe you would.
Get yourself a meter or ask an electrician if you can borrow one, then you'll see what your wifi and smart TV are shooting into the room.
Ignorance is bliss.

What I do under normal conditions is about like very careful social distancing now (theater or airline seating and haircuts feel TOO CLOSE at the best of times); what I do now is about 3x that, plus wash hands and disinfect handles, steering wheel, etc every time I get back in the car after a grocery or takeout run. (soap and water and paper towels and disinfectant wipes in the car). And again when I'm home. And a few times extra again even while home, just in case something snuck in. Overkill, in other words. In a store, there were markers on the ground to discourage crowding. I had gloves, honored the markers, and glared at anyone that got too close. The person in front of me seemed displeased with that, but the cashier told them I was doing the right thing.

I have a very basic microwave leak tester (having worked on mine a bit, wanted to be sure it was ok afterward), but it's certainly not sensitive enough to pick up 2.4Ghz (roughly same frequency as microwave oven which is 2450Mhz) wifi at any distance. (I suppose it _might_ pick it up next to a transmitter. Not caring; the power levels, even if higher than the oven leakage threshold, have a big safety margin.)

Unless you live in the center of a large plot of land, and never go anywhere, you're getting irradiated anyway.  I'm in an area with mostly 1/4 acre lots, and see a decent signal on 13 other wifi networks in addition to mine. Many stores, restaurants, etc, have wifi. And there is ZERO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to support the notion that somehow all radio is dangerous.  ONLY (a) "ionizing" radiation (x-rays and above), microwaves tuned to heat water or lipids at sufficient power levels, ultraviolet in excess, and for your eyes, excessive blue light, are dangerous, unless you're close enough to a transmitter far more powerful than anyone's wifi base station or laptop. And by close, I'm talking a few feet to something that's operating with at least hundreds, more likely thousands of watts, not milliwatts.

www.howtogeek.com/423720/how-worried-should-you-be-about-the-health-risks-of-5g/
www.techrepublic.com/article/wi-fi-is-not-actually-bad-for-your-health-scientists-say/

And EVERYTHING unshielded that uses electricity generates radio waves. No big deal. Except for ionizing radiation (where damage is cumulative), low level exposure (say single digit watts or less at 1 meter distance) generally doesn't matter, unless perhaps it's both an unusual frequency and extremely focused (like a maser).  (Yes, 100W RF in Mhz range at zero distance could stop your heart, but that's not realistic.) And of course the sun generates a wide range of frequencies; and the frequencies used by wifi, cellular, 5G, etc, are not blocked by the atmosphere (lower frequencies like AM or short wave, are reflected by the ionosphere; oddly, extremely low frequencies can penetrate water when higher frequency radio can't). There is no escape.

The safety limits for all transmitters are quite conservative, those for consumer equipment where safe distance can't be enforced, almost ridiculously so. (I recall a shopping center that had a commercial radio station antenna in the parking lot. There was a fence around it, probably mainly to keep kids from climbing it, although I suppose one could get an RF burn if one touched certain parts of the antenna. The devil is in the details, and the folks that design and regulate transmitters are mostly smarter than either of us about those details.)

So of COURSE every government on the planet is lying, either because they don't care how many people die (some don't, but most find big numbers of corpses to be an embarrassment), or because they've been bought off by evil rich corporations or whatever. Or if you're really insane, it's a conspiracy with aliens known as grays to engage in mind control. Sure. Go build yourself a shielded room if it makes you feel better. The real big bucks can be made by exploiting suckers, so I'm sure someone will be glad to charge you $50K or so for one.

Not spending hours holding a cell phone up to your head might be wise. Just like not sitting two feet from an old picture tube color TV (slight possibility of X-ray exposure) was wise.  But the real hazard in either case is likely to be overconsumption of shallow content to the detriment of actually doing something.

I'm not worried about my AirPods either. I don't wear them for hours on end unlike some, and if they're ok, I probably will be.

Stuff happens. Some stuff would happen even if we were all good little radio-free, chemical free zero tech organic everything vegans. There would still be some cancers and chronic conditions. And most of us would starve to death...

[BOGC]

Mar 24, 2020 4:06:45 GMT -5 djt2020 said:

The sad fact is there are Millions and Millions of simple minded idiots in the world and the Globalist have been using them for years to corrupt and debase social norms, in their goal of destroying humanity, to create their NWO.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
quoteinvestigator.com/2016/12/30/not-malice/

Big conspiracy theories are IMO mostly crap, although I do not discount the scope of hostile propaganda from certain governments (PRC, Russia, Iran) and non-governments (assorted terrorist groups, etc); nor the predilection for abuse of liberty by either the far left or by (a very few, actually) social conservatives of authoritarian inclination.

Why? Because egos and opportunities big enough for them wouldn't share power, and would be incompatible with widespread conspiracy.

OTOH, small conspiracy happens any time two or more agree to some illegal, or arguably even unethical act, exchange of favors, etc (and esp. when they also seek to conceal it). We're surrounded by those (and have probably committed our share), but most are venial and even banal; even most by official or well connected persons are like that, and have little broad consequence. But those don't have grand appeal as a story. :-)

I tend to think of high drama conspiracy theories as a distraction from more solvable problems; which, if widely solved (e.g. restore real civics education!), would also cut the feet out from under most actual big conspiracies, should they exist.

[djt2020]

Mar 27, 2020 11:04:38 GMT -5 BOGC said:

Mar 24, 2020 4:06:45 GMT -5 djt2020 said:

The sad fact is there are Millions and Millions of simple minded idiots in the world and the Globalist have been using them for years to corrupt and debase social norms, in their goal of destroying humanity, to create their NWO.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
quoteinvestigator.com/2016/12/30/not-malice/

Big conspiracy theories are IMO mostly crap, although I do not discount the scope of hostile propaganda from certain governments (PRC, Russia, Iran) and non-governments (assorted terrorist groups, etc); nor the predilection for abuse of liberty by either the far left or by (a very few, actually) social conservatives of authoritarian inclination.

Why? Because egos and opportunities big enough for them wouldn't share power, and would be incompatible with widespread conspiracy.

OTOH, small conspiracy happens any time two or more agree to some illegal, or arguably even unethical act, exchange of favors, etc (and esp. when they also seek to conceal it). We're surrounded by those (and have probably committed our share), but most are venial and even banal; even most by official or well connected persons are like that, and have little broad consequence. But those don't have grand appeal as a story. :-)

I tend to think of high drama conspiracy theories as a distraction from more solvable problems; which, if widely solved (e.g. restore real civics education!), would also cut the feet out from under most actual big conspiracies, should they exist.

Keep you eyes and mind open, the truth will become evident to ALL in the very near future.

[BOGC]

Mar 27, 2020 11:23:43 GMT -5 djt2020 said:

Keep you eyes and mind open, the truth will become evident to ALL in the very near future.

The former, always. The latter, there are always opportunists, but it remains to be seen.

Even in the absence of big conspiracies, nobody that develops too much of a taste for power should ever be trusted.

[1 Guest]

Mar 27, 2020 10:39:58 GMT -5 BOGC said:

Mar 26, 2020 20:39:01 GMT -5 1 Guest said:

It's true that water is dangerous if you're stupid enough to drink enough to kill you, and COVID-19 is dangerous but I don't think you'd be stupid enough to knowingly sit in a room filled with people who have it, or then again maybe you would.
Get yourself a meter or ask an electrician if you can borrow one, then you'll see what your wifi and smart TV are shooting into the room.
Ignorance is bliss.

What I do under normal conditions is about like very careful social distancing now (theater or airline seating and haircuts feel TOO CLOSE at the best of times); what I do now is about 3x that, plus wash hands and disinfect handles, steering wheel, etc every time I get back in the car after a grocery or takeout run. (soap and water and paper towels and disinfectant wipes in the car). And again when I'm home. And a few times extra again even while home, just in case something snuck in. Overkill, in other words. In a store, there were markers on the ground to discourage crowding. I had gloves, honored the markers, and glared at anyone that got too close. The person in front of me seemed displeased with that, but the cashier told them I was doing the right thing.

I have a very basic microwave leak tester (having worked on mine a bit, wanted to be sure it was ok afterward), but it's certainly not sensitive enough to pick up 2.4Ghz (roughly same frequency as microwave oven which is 2450Mhz) wifi at any distance. (I suppose it _might_ pick it up next to a transmitter. Not caring; the power levels, even if higher than the oven leakage threshold, have a big safety margin.)

Unless you live in the center of a large plot of land, and never go anywhere, you're getting irradiated anyway.  I'm in an area with mostly 1/4 acre lots, and see a decent signal on 13 other wifi networks in addition to mine. Many stores, restaurants, etc, have wifi. And there is ZERO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to support the notion that somehow all radio is dangerous.  ONLY (a) "ionizing" radiation (x-rays and above), microwaves tuned to heat water or lipids at sufficient power levels, ultraviolet in excess, and for your eyes, excessive blue light, are dangerous, unless you're close enough to a transmitter far more powerful than anyone's wifi base station or laptop. And by close, I'm talking a few feet to something that's operating with at least hundreds, more likely thousands of watts, not milliwatts.

www.howtogeek.com/423720/how-worried-should-you-be-about-the-health-risks-of-5g/
www.techrepublic.com/article/wi-fi-is-not-actually-bad-for-your-health-scientists-say/

And EVERYTHING unshielded that uses electricity generates radio waves. No big deal. Except for ionizing radiation (where damage is cumulative), low level exposure (say single digit watts or less at 1 meter distance) generally doesn't matter, unless perhaps it's both an unusual frequency and extremely focused (like a maser).  (Yes, 100W RF in Mhz range at zero distance could stop your heart, but that's not realistic.) And of course the sun generates a wide range of frequencies; and the frequencies used by wifi, cellular, 5G, etc, are not blocked by the atmosphere (lower frequencies like AM or short wave, are reflected by the ionosphere; oddly, extremely low frequencies can penetrate water when higher frequency radio can't). There is no escape.

The safety limits for all transmitters are quite conservative, those for consumer equipment where safe distance can't be enforced, almost ridiculously so. (I recall a shopping center that had a commercial radio station antenna in the parking lot. There was a fence around it, probably mainly to keep kids from climbing it, although I suppose one could get an RF burn if one touched certain parts of the antenna. The devil is in the details, and the folks that design and regulate transmitters are mostly smarter than either of us about those details.)

So of COURSE every government on the planet is lying, either because they don't care how many people die (some don't, but most find big numbers of corpses to be an embarrassment), or because they've been bought off by evil rich corporations or whatever. Or if you're really insane, it's a conspiracy with aliens known as grays to engage in mind control. Sure. Go build yourself a shielded room if it makes you feel better. The real big bucks can be made by exploiting suckers, so I'm sure someone will be glad to charge you $50K or so for one.

Not spending hours holding a cell phone up to your head might be wise. Just like not sitting two feet from an old picture tube color TV (slight possibility of X-ray exposure) was wise.  But the real hazard in either case is likely to be overconsumption of shallow content to the detriment of actually doing something.

I'm not worried about my AirPods either. I don't wear them for hours on end unlike some, and if they're ok, I probably will be.

Stuff happens. Some stuff would happen even if we were all good little radio-free, chemical free zero tech organic everything vegans. There would still be some cancers and chronic conditions. And most of us would starve to death...

"Unless you live in the center of a large plot of land, and never go anywhere, you're getting irradiated anyway."
"I'm in an area with mostly 1/4 acre lots, and see a decent signal on 13 other wifi networks in addition to mine."

It's true that when I'm away from home I'm getting irradiated, but I don't know about you, I spend a lot more time in my home than I do away from home.
I don't live in the wilderness, I live in the burbs in a single home, so I don't have to worry about my neighbors wifi.  Yes, I can SEE their wifi signal but that's not the same thing as their EMF's coming into my home because the meter doesn't pick it up.
After I turned off the router, wired my laptop and disabled the smart feature in my tv, which was VERY easy to do, the meter showed no more EMF in my home, unlike when the router was turned on.   And smart TV's even emit when they're turned off, the only way to stop it on most TV's is to disconnect the power.
And it's no hardship since I'm not missing out on anything, I can still be online and still stream TV.

[1 Guest]

For BOGC:

Here you go, notice that the TV was emitting even when plugged into power but not turned on.

[BOGC]

My TV died, and I haven't yet replaced it since my cable company provides everything online anyway, and a large laptop nearby is as good as a 54" TV further away (and higher resolution, maybe). It was not a smart TV; no Internet or streaming, not even local streaming. But I'm well aware that many smart TVs are always online; if voice operated, even always listening to some degree.

Yes, I'm being bombarded by as much as (worst case) 4 watts (5Ghz) or around 1 watt (2.4Ghz). Not worried, worse than that hasn't hurt me in decades of cumulative exposure.

As far as I'm concerned, the hazard is way less than lots of far more real hazards that I accept. And just as I like the convenience of driving, I like the convenience of doing anything anywhere without a wire, and of other conveniences of wireless devices. (I am with you on wanting to retain a wire to my iPhone and not have something with no connector and wireless _charging_; but that's because (a) wired charging is MUCH faster and more efficient, and (b) there are a lot of gadgets one can hook up to a phone (or vice versa); I don't want them all to HAVE to be wireless, for reasons of security or simply of not having to replace all such existing gadgets.)

Maybe you're especially vulnerable. Or maybe, as one discussion of the topic implied, those who seem to have issues with low-level RF exposure, would have issues with something else even if it weren't there; something between a hypochondriac and some other flavor of distance from reality.

Of course no true believer in anything is subject to persuasion by anyone other than themselves. And it's a harmless enough thing to be whacky about, compared to some. So if that's where you are, enjoy your imagined greater safety, wisdom, moral superiority, or whatever.

[1 Guest]

Mar 27, 2020 16:27:56 GMT -5 BOGC said:

My TV died, and I haven't yet replaced it since my cable company provides everything online anyway, and a large laptop nearby is as good as a 54" TV further away (and higher resolution, maybe). It was not a smart TV; no Internet or streaming, not even local streaming. But I'm well aware that many smart TVs are always online; if voice operated, even always listening to some degree.

Yes, I'm being bombarded by as much as (worst case) 4 watts (5Ghz) or around 1 watt (2.4Ghz). Not worried, worse than that hasn't hurt me in decades of cumulative exposure.

As far as I'm concerned, the hazard is way less than lots of far more real hazards that I accept. And just as I like the convenience of driving, I like the convenience of doing anything anywhere without a wire, and of other conveniences of wireless devices. (I am with you on wanting to retain a wire to my iPhone and not have something with no connector and wireless _charging_; but that's because (a) wired charging is MUCH faster and more efficient, and (b) there are a lot of gadgets one can hook up to a phone (or vice versa); I don't want them all to HAVE to be wireless, for reasons of security or simply of not having to replace all such existing gadgets.)

Maybe you're especially vulnerable. Or maybe, as one discussion of the topic implied, those who seem to have issues with low-level RF exposure, would have issues with something else even if it weren't there; something between a hypochondriac and some other flavor of distance from reality.

Of course no true believer in anything is subject to persuasion by anyone other than themselves. And it's a harmless enough thing to be whack about, compared to some. So if that's where you are, enjoy your imagined greater safety, wisdom, moral superiority, or whatever.

You've called me of being irrational, wacky, accused me of possessing moral superiority and of  imagining things.
I have no idea where you came up with the moral superiority.

You've accused me of possessing some flavor of distance from reality and of being a hypochondriac although I never claimed to feel any ill effects from wifi.

So I guess it'll be acceptable for me to accuse you of of possessing imagined intelligence, of being a miserable, egotistical, arrogant SOB.

[BOGC]

Mar 27, 2020 16:52:32 GMT -5 BOGC said:

You've called me of being irrational, wacky, accused me of possessing moral superiority and of  imagining things.
I have no idea where you came up with the moral superiority.

You've accused me of possessing some flavor of distance from reality and of being a hypochondriac although I never claimed to feel any ill effects from wifi.

So I guess it'll be acceptable for me to accuse you of of possessing imagined intelligence, of being a miserable, egotistical, arrogant SOB.

I believe that people who perceive dangers that few if any credible experts agree are dangers, are probably a bit crazy. As long as it's harmless, it's their prerogative.

I believe that people who try to persuade others of such things are a bit on the self-righteous side.

Maybe that's not diplomatic, but I never claimed to be that (I try occasionally, but not often; in a more sensitive corner I might, but among this bunch of nay-sayers, I probably get bonus points for offending people).

As for whatever you wish to believe about me, I don't care in the slightest. I assume _everyone_ is wrong unless either they bring proof, or for long evidence that they're usually both right and gracious about it. And even with them, I verify (and catch occasional errors). Heck, I even check myself sometimes, just so I can shoot my mouth off with some confidence I didn't paint a return target on myself.

And yes, there are moments I'll question the sanity of even the very Highest; my ego is sometimes _that_ big. I actually like the present crisis in one way: less fools in front of me on the roads.

[1 Guest]

Mar 27, 2020 17:12:23 GMT -5 BOGC said:

Mar 27, 2020 16:52:32 GMT -5 BOGC said:

You've called me of being irrational, wacky, accused me of possessing moral superiority and of  imagining things.
I have no idea where you came up with the moral superiority.

You've accused me of possessing some flavor of distance from reality and of being a hypochondriac although I never claimed to feel any ill effects from wifi.

So I guess it'll be acceptable for me to accuse you of of possessing imagined intelligence, of being a miserable, egotistical, arrogant SOB.

I believe that people who perceive dangers that few if any credible experts agree are dangers, are probably a bit crazy. As long as it's harmless, it's their prerogative.

I believe that people who try to persuade others of such things are a bit on the self-righteous side.

Maybe that's not diplomatic, but I never claimed to be that (I try occasionally, but not often; in a more sensitive corner I might, but among this bunch of nay-sayers, I probably get bonus points for offending people).

As for whatever you wish to believe about me, I don't care in the slightest. I assume _everyone_ is wrong unless either they bring proof, or for long evidence that they're usually both right and gracious about it. And even with them, I verify (and catch occasional errors). Heck, I even check myself sometimes, just so I can shoot my mouth off with some confidence I didn't paint a return target on myself.

And yes, there are moments I'll question the sanity of even the very Highest; my ego is sometimes _that_ big. I actually like the present crisis in one way: less fools in front of me on the roads.

I never tried to persuade you to do anything.  I couldn't care less if glue a 5G cell phone to your head.

Someone asked about 5G, I commented on the subject.  No where did I ever suggest that you or anyone else do what I do, but you butted in and verbally abused me.

[BOGC]

If you think that's verbal abuse, you ain't seen nothin'. Still, that was not my intent. Let's just say I treat probable error very un-gently, if not quite on the level of Nomad ("That which is imperfect must be sterilised"). Not proud of it, but not likely to favor mercy over correction, either.

A sensible person would not hold a phone to their head for hours on end, because just listening to interminable ...talking would rot their brains, regardless of whether it was 3G, LTE, 5G, or landline. Even a shielded wired speakerphone 10 yards away wouldn't protect from that.

edit: checking back, I credit that at any rate it was "Guest 5" rather than you that came up with
"This Coronavirus ordeal might be a big distraction from the real threat, which is the installation of 5G in public spaces while everyone is at home."

Even if that were to happen (unlikely that it should speed up now, IMO), it should be no more scary than that some road repairs are being done now while there's less traffic. No "real threat" at all.

[Beachguy]

Mar 27, 2020 17:18:42 GMT -5 1 Guest said:

Mar 27, 2020 17:12:23 GMT -5 BOGC said:

I believe that people who perceive dangers that few if any credible experts agree are dangers, are probably a bit crazy. As long as it's harmless, it's their prerogative.

I believe that people who try to persuade others of such things are a bit on the self-righteous side.

Maybe that's not diplomatic, but I never claimed to be that (I try occasionally, but not often; in a more sensitive corner I might, but among this bunch of nay-sayers, I probably get bonus points for offending people).

As for whatever you wish to believe about me, I don't care in the slightest. I assume _everyone_ is wrong unless either they bring proof, or for long evidence that they're usually both right and gracious about it. And even with them, I verify (and catch occasional errors). Heck, I even check myself sometimes, just so I can shoot my mouth off with some confidence I didn't paint a return target on myself.

And yes, there are moments I'll question the sanity of even the very Highest; my ego is sometimes _that_ big. I actually like the present crisis in one way: less fools in front of me on the roads.

I never tried to persuade you to do anything.  I couldn't care less if glue a 5G cell phone to your head.

Someone asked about 5G, I commented on the subject.  No where did I ever suggest that you or anyone else do what I do, but you butted in and verbally abused me.

Who is BOGC ? 

[djt2020]

Mar 27, 2020 12:51:12 GMT -5 BOGC said:

Mar 27, 2020 11:23:43 GMT -5 djt2020 said:

Keep you eyes and mind open, the truth will become evident to ALL in the very near future.

The former, always. The latter, there are always opportunists, but it remains to be seen.

Even in the absence of big conspiracies, nobody that develops too much of a taste for power should ever be trusted.

Like all Americans, you are free to voice your opinions still. Which would not be the case if the Globalist had been successful in rigging the 2016 Presidential election.
President Trump is handling everything, despite having had the full force of the Globalist trying to take him out since before the election, and doing all they can to block him from fulfilling his agenda of taking America back since he took office. He is keeping the promises he made to the American people.

This Easter is going to be the second best Easter ever. Hoping it brings you as much joy and comfort as it will me.

God Bless America and the World.

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