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Jan 1, 2021 15:19:48 GMT -5
Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 15:19:48 GMT -5
In the first scenario, you have allowed the governor to become a criminal. He will break his own laws - "don't steal" No in the contrary, one of the basic purposes of government is to secure the life, well-being of every citizen - it is the duty of the governor. There may be a discussion to the extent...but even in ancient, in medieval, in the most harsh ideas of the industrial revolution a government had always to protect its citizen - even only with poor houses - therefore taxes are there ..without taxes no working society - btw. same idea in christianity, islam - the 10th According to the island's laws, the governor would need to lock himself up after committing theft, but since he has the weapons would never do so. It is the moral hazard of having any government at all. Allowing the government to break its own laws allows it to act lawlessly until it becomes the biggest criminal mafia organization in society. This is the behavior of communist societies like China - and it is growing in the USA. |
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Jan 1, 2021 15:33:40 GMT -5
Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 1, 2021 15:33:40 GMT -5
No in the contrary, one of the basic purposes of government is to secure the life, well-being of every citizen - it is the duty of the governor. There may be a discussion to the extent...but even in ancient, in medieval, in the most harsh ideas of the industrial revolution a government had always to protect its citizen - even only with poor houses - therefore taxes are there ..without taxes no working society - btw. same idea in christianity, islam - the 10th According to the island's laws, the governor would need to lock himself up after committing theft, but since he has the weapons would never do so. It is the moral hazard of having any government at all. Allowing the government to break its own laws allows it to act lawlessly until it becomes the biggest criminal mafia organization in society. This is the behavior of communist societies like China - and it is growing in the USA. No, based on natural law...governor only got weapons by a contract of citizens..because without government there would be anarchy „Homo homine lupus“ (Thomas Hobbes) Because of this contract governor(government) has also some duties. Sorry you have simply no clue of political theory ...that is exactly the problem ...uneducated white trash Trump supporters in the USA trying to reign the world, full of hate and racism. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract“Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order.“ |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 16:15:24 GMT -5
According to the island's laws, the governor would need to lock himself up after committing theft, but since he has the weapons would never do so. It is the moral hazard of having any government at all. Allowing the government to break its own laws allows it to act lawlessly until it becomes the biggest criminal mafia organization in society. This is the behavior of communist societies like China - and it is growing in the USA. No, based on natural law...governor only got weapons by a contract of citizens..because without government there would be anarchy „Homo homine lupus“ (Thomas Hobbes) Because of this contract governor(government) has also some duties. Sorry you have simply no clue of political theory ...that is exactly the problem ...uneducated white trash Trump supporters in the USA trying to reign the world, full of hate and racism. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract“Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order.“ I know all about the social contract theory a$$wipe. You are commingling different issues while playing the brainless racism and hate cards because it is the easy way out of any argument. Your position is stupid, illogical and certainly not biblical. |
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Jan 1, 2021 17:43:11 GMT -5
Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 1, 2021 17:43:11 GMT -5
Voter suppression mostly consists of letting dead people vote, real people vote twice or in the wrong district, fictional people vote, etc. Nobody is hanging out at a polling station anymore chasing away people that don't look like them. At least not in the historical sense, although in some inner city districts, there might be a bit of the reverse going on, and large unanimous votes in some districts are suspicious, to put it mildly. Or in some smaller districts, when there are people that claim to have voted the other way. Funny how it's always the Democrats that benefit in those situations. As for those for which voting in person is too difficult or "dangerous", they don't deserve to vote. Voting in person even with distancing and all was no problem. I don't particularly mind LIMITED (like if you're traveling or in the military) and properly controlled absentee ballots, but accepting everything regardless of laws requiring signature checks etc is just crazy and crooked. Nor do I particularly mind a couple of days of early voting, but more than that makes it harder to make the process secure; not to mention that something could come up a few days before the official date that might change people's minds. The real answer to long lines (which aren't THAT much of a hardship even if it's painful; been there, done that) is more polling places. This is exactly the racist thinking ...no argument, no proof but lamenting again and again...and by the way who blocks an official date, more polling states...and who is proud to cheat by gerrymandering/design of districts..the Republican party...who blocked early counts of mail in ballots...Pennsylvania Republicans...afterwards whining. . The Republican party is the cheating party...because they would lose nearly always because of the changing demographics...they would have to change their policy... Btw. Trump voted by mail in ballot.Total hypocrisy. |
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Jan 1, 2021 17:50:17 GMT -5
Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 1, 2021 17:50:17 GMT -5
No, based on natural law...governor only got weapons by a contract of citizens..because without government there would be anarchy „Homo homine lupus“ (Thomas Hobbes) Because of this contract governor(government) has also some duties. Sorry you have simply no clue of political theory ...that is exactly the problem ...uneducated white trash Trump supporters in the USA trying to reign the world, full of hate and racism. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract“Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order.“ I know all about the social contract theory a$$wipe. You are commingling different issues while playing the brainless racism and hate cards because it is the easy way out of any argument. Your position is stupid, illogical and certainly not biblical. You know nothing I know that it is hard for the white trash fake christians in the USA to understand...that they are not christians...but selfish bigots. Pro life is just a tool for suppressing minorities... You and most of the evangalicals, many of US catholics, protestants...are betraying the christian ideas on a daily basis. www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stories/20-verses-about-poor.htmlwww.openbible.info/topics/povertyBtw. that is the reason for the many enemies of Pope Francis in the church....no longer benefices, privileges...he calls out the cardinals, bishops... having a fine life with three nuns... |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 17:58:52 GMT -5
I know all about the social contract theory a$$wipe. You are commingling different issues while playing the brainless racism and hate cards because it is the easy way out of any argument. Your position is stupid, illogical and certainly not biblical. You know nothing I know that it is hard for the white trash fake christians in the USA to understand...that they are not christians...but selfish bigots. Pro life is just a tool for suppressing minorities... You and most of the evangalicals, many of US catholics, protestants...are betraying the christian ideas on a daily basis. www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stories/20-verses-about-poor.htmlwww.openbible.info/topics/povertyBtw. that is the reason for the many enemies of Pope Francis in the church....no longer benefices, privileges...he calls out the cardinals, bishops... having a fine life with three nuns... Catechism 2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life. 72 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. 73 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth. 74 You, therefore, by definition, are a fake Christian as the Democratic party and the church are incompatible. |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 18:09:22 GMT -5
I know all about the social contract theory a$$wipe. You are commingling different issues while playing the brainless racism and hate cards because it is the easy way out of any argument. Your position is stupid, illogical and certainly not biblical. You know nothing I know that it is hard for the white trash fake christians in the USA to understand...that they are not christians...but selfish bigots. Pro life is just a tool for suppressing minorities...
You and most of the evangalicals, many of US catholics, protestants...are betraying the christian ideas on a daily basis. www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stories/20-verses-about-poor.htmlwww.openbible.info/topics/povertyBtw. that is the reason for the many enemies of Pope Francis in the church....no longer benefices, privileges...he calls out the cardinals, bishops... having a fine life with three nuns... Are you really THAT stupid? Blacks are the biggest victims of abortions. Blacks would have MORE representation in our society if the Democratic murder machine was not out there supporting the abortion ritual, but instead your party is killing off blacks step-by-step with your racist policies. |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 18:39:04 GMT -5
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Jan 1, 2021 18:42:06 GMT -5
Post by BOGC on Jan 1, 2021 18:42:06 GMT -5
In the first scenario, you have allowed the governor to become a criminal. He will break his own laws - "don't steal" No in the contrary, one of the basic purposes of government is to secure the life, well-being of every citizen - it is the duty of the governor. There may be a discussion to the extent...but even in ancient, in medieval, in the most harsh ideas of the industrial revolution a government had always to protect its citizen - even only with poor houses - therefore taxes are there ..without taxes no working society - btw. same idea in christianity, islam - the 10th It isn't, at least it's NOT SUPPOSED TO BE for the US federal government! The states are not forbidden to do such things, but the federal government is, although the courts have chickened out on enforcing that. In general, it's the business of the individual to look after their own well-being, and optionally that of VOLUNTARY PRIVATE persons and organizations to assist. But it is NOT government's job to prevent self-inflicted Darwin Awards, regardless of how few or many there would be without government's intervention. I'll look after a few that I know and care about to the extent I'm able and willing; if enough others did the same, most would be looked after. There IS NO RIGHT (except for children and MAYBE those truly incapable) to be fed, housed, treated, or otherwise kept alive...or should I say undead, because as a non-self-sufficient person, you're not really fully alive either. As for masses of poor starving strangers, mostly I hope they either get competently self-sufficient, or sponsored, or else I'm just fine if they drop dead. There are too many people already (so we don't need more immigration except in specialties where there's a labor shortage) and if there were half as many, it would be an improvement. Really there's NOTHING SPECIAL about trying to keep everyone alive. Most of them aren't worth it, at least not in any sort of practical sense. |
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Post by BOGC on Jan 1, 2021 18:43:23 GMT -5
“Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order.“ It's much cheaper to shoot rioters than to feed them. Perhaps even more important, there's no recidivism among the dead. |
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Post by BOGC on Jan 1, 2021 18:46:44 GMT -5
Are you really THAT stupid? Yes, he is; all European socialists are. It's a form of brain damage, and it's being regularly inflicted in our own colleges and universities too, and supported by media, Soros, and far too many brainless or spineless sheep. |
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Jan 1, 2021 19:09:33 GMT -5
Post by Outhouse on Jan 1, 2021 19:09:33 GMT -5
You, therefore, by definition, are a fake Christian as the Democratic party and the church are incompatible. It's much cheaper to shoot rioters than to feed them. Perhaps even more important, there's no recidivism among the dead. Statements like these are why no one likes you. Happy New Year. |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 19:13:45 GMT -5
You, therefore, by definition, are a fake Christian as the Democratic party and the church are incompatible. It's much cheaper to shoot rioters than to feed them. Perhaps even more important, there's no recidivism among the dead. Statements like these are why no one likes you. Happy New Year. My reason for existence is to be popular and to liked by complete garbage heads such as Outhouse and Eulenspiegel |
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Jan 1, 2021 19:16:42 GMT -5
Post by Outhouse on Jan 1, 2021 19:16:42 GMT -5
My reason for existence is to be popular and to liked by complete garbage heads such as Outhouse and Eulenspiegel Any excuse is better than none, I suppose. |
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Post by Gust on Jan 1, 2021 22:41:13 GMT -5
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