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Post by donkey on May 24, 2024 8:37:55 GMT -5
Was this a parody of Trump or of the freaks on the left? Ha ha ha...this is far more mocking of the left than Trump.
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Post by Socal Fan on May 24, 2024 9:58:35 GMT -5
Biden gave a speech in Detroit the other day and the White House had to make 9 corrections ! He is a human gaff machine! I don't care about gaffes. The White House simply corrects them and they don't make a difference. What I care about is substance. For example, Trump thinks he won the 2000 election and filed numerous lawsuits which did not change a single electoral vote. He inspired his crazy followers to storm Congress on Jan 6 killing and injuring many people. That's real and that makes a difference. I care about that.
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Post by BOGC on May 24, 2024 10:11:16 GMT -5
Biden gave a speech in Detroit the other day and the White House had to make 9 corrections ! He is a human gaff machine! I don't care about gaffes. The White House simply corrects them and they don't make a difference. What I care about is substance. For example, Trump thinks he won the 2000 election and filed numerous lawsuits which did not change a single electoral vote. He inspired his crazy followers to storm Congress on Jan 6 killing and injuring many people. That's real and that makes a difference. I care about that. Four Trump supporters died, one of violence (shot by Capitol police in a circumstance where it probably wasn't necessary - actually a person that had been urging other protesters to show some restraint) and three of other causes (cardiac problems, overdose). One Capitol policeman died of a stroke, and four later committed suicide. Only one of those was directly the result of anyone's else's action; the rest were simply a failure to withstand very stressful circumstances. Trump may have inspired a protest, but he did NOT encourage violence; to the contrary, he called for keeping it peaceful, if not early enough and often enough to placate his critics. There were a few crazies of both sides that were there, as well as probably some FBI that went too far undercover, and some folks that are pretty much permanent floating protesters at whatever, looking to maximize disruption because they want to bring it all down, both sides as we know them. They were far outnumbered by tens of thousands that stepped back and walked away when it was clearly getting out of hand.
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Post by Socal Fan on May 24, 2024 10:25:08 GMT -5
Trump may have inspired a protest, but he did NOT encourage violence Precisely my point: Trump's lies inspired the protests. He has repeatedly said that he would pardon all or most of the convicted protesters. That says it all. He condones and encourages further violence.
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Post by 1 Guest on May 24, 2024 10:34:17 GMT -5
I don't care about gaffes. The White House simply corrects them and they don't make a difference. What I care about is substance. For example, Trump thinks he won the 2000 election and filed numerous lawsuits which did not change a single electoral vote. He inspired his crazy followers to storm Congress on Jan 6 killing and injuring many people. That's real and that makes a difference. I care about that. Four Trump supporters died, one of violence (shot by Capitol police in a circumstance where it probably wasn't necessary - actually a person that had been urging other protesters to show some restraint) and three of other causes (cardiac problems, overdose). One Capitol policeman died of a stroke, and four later committed suicide. Only one of those was directly the result of anyone's else's action; the rest were simply a failure to withstand very stressful circumstances. Trump may have inspired a protest, but he did NOT encourage violence; to the contrary, he called for keeping it peaceful, if not early enough and often enough to placate his critics. There were a few crazies of both sides that were there, as well as probably some FBI that went too far undercover, and some folks that are pretty much permanent floating protesters at whatever, looking to maximize disruption because they want to bring it all down, both sides as we know them. They were far outnumbered by tens of thousands that stepped back and walked away when it was clearly getting out of hand. He also offered the National Guard to Pelosi, and BTW, it was Pelosi's job to handle security. Odd that she didn't request any.
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Post by donkey on May 24, 2024 10:37:49 GMT -5
Biden gave a speech in Detroit the other day and the White House had to make 9 corrections ! He is a human gaff machine! I don't care about gaffes. The White House simply corrects them and they don't make a difference. What I care about is substance. For example, Trump thinks he won the 2000 election and filed numerous lawsuits which did not change a single electoral vote. He inspired his crazy followers to storm Congress on Jan 6 killing and injuring many people. That's real and that makes a difference. I care about that. Except that he explicitly didn't do that. He told the crowd that day to be peaceful and patriotic when they marched to the capitol, which the vast majority did. A tiny percentage of that massive crowd got out of hand and there was a riot. Stop blaming Trump...that narrative never, ever worked. And, Not one person was killed that day except for one unarmed protestor. You don't care about reality, you care about hating Trump. If you did care about reality, you wouldn't still be pushing your ridiculous narrative. As far as the election goes, it was a VERY close election electorally (about 44k total votes in a handful of swing states). Courts are loathe to interfere, and most refused to even look at it. There was likely cheating around the fringes in corrupt, deep blue urban cess pools. Signatures weren't checked, chain of custody of ballots weren't maintained, and of course there will be some fraud when you mass dump unrequested ballots across the country. Hard to prove after the fact as well, and we may never know the level of cheating. Did the cheating make a difference in who won? Who knows? But if you care about facts, you would certainly care about deep blue urban corruption, like the way corrupt local liberal D.A.s and judges are currently engaged in hijacking their local justice systems in a most fascist manner in order to damage or jail the leading political opposition with legally laughable cases right before an election. Outrageous and unacceptable. Same goes for Jack Smith, who by the way didnt even try to charge Trump with inciting anything on 1/6. Why didn't he, when he so wants to "get" Trump? Because it didn't happen and all evidence point the opposite way. Trump tried all legal avenues to challenge the election results...all within his rights as an American. Dems have resorted to any and all fascist tactics to take out the political opposition...goes against everything America stands for. And then there was the democrat fake, failed Russia collusion coup attempt, banana republic style. Fortunately, it's all backfiring on TDS democrats.
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Post by 1 Guest on May 24, 2024 10:39:03 GMT -5
Biden gave a speech in Detroit the other day and the White House had to make 9 corrections ! He is a human gaff machine! I don't care about gaffes. The White House simply corrects them and they don't make a difference. What I care about is substance. For example, Trump thinks he won the 2000 election and filed numerous lawsuits which did not change a single electoral vote. He inspired his crazy followers to storm Congress on Jan 6 killing and injuring many people. That's real and that makes a difference. I care about that. And the Dems have been calling Trump an Illegitimate for 7 years, based on the Russian Collusian hoax and the Steele Dossier paid for by the DOJ and Crooked Hillary. Deleting all of the subpoenaed wiped from her illegal server didn't help her to win.
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Post by colt46 on May 24, 2024 11:12:23 GMT -5
I think Socal fan has shown his hatred for Trump show ,while thinking Biden has done nothing wrong as a 50 year plus career politician who has a history of lying!
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Post by donkey on May 24, 2024 11:39:47 GMT -5
I think Socal fan has shown his hatred for Trump show ,while thinking Biden has done nothing wrong as a 50 year plus career politician who has a history of lying! Does it matter what anyone here thinks? Biden is collapsing in the polls, and it's looking really good for Trump. That's the important thing. Everyone is sick of the high prices, high crime, wide open border, endless proxy wars, and advanced dementia. Most people were SO much better off financially under Trump.
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Post by BOGC on May 24, 2024 12:23:16 GMT -5
Trump may have inspired a protest, but he did NOT encourage violence Precisely my point: Trump's lies inspired the protests. He has repeatedly said that he would pardon all or most of the convicted protesters. That says it all. He condones and encourages further violence. Most convicted caused no injuries or property damage. At most they were trespassing and disorderly, for which the sentences were grossly excessive. Those that did not cause injuries or property damage SHOULD be considered for at least commutation, and in some cases pardons, esp. for those that are not chronic troublemakers.
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Post by BOGC on May 24, 2024 12:26:54 GMT -5
I think Socal fan has shown his hatred for Trump show ,while thinking Biden has done nothing wrong as a 50 year plus career politician who has a history of lying! Does it matter what anyone here thinks? Biden is collapsing in the polls, and it's looking really good for Trump. That's the important thing. Everyone is sick of the high prices, high crime, wide open border, endless proxy wars, and advanced dementia. Most people were SO much better off financially under Trump. Thing I'm afraid of is that the "Democratic" Convention could by their own rules ignore the primary and pick Michelle (probably more popular than Hillary, maybe less crooked, not particularly qualified) or someone else with enough name recognition, favorable demographics for their base, and lower unfavorables than either Biden or Trump. Trump vs Biden, Trump wins unless some probably rigged bombshells are dropped. Trump vs someone with less baggage, not so easy.
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Post by donkey on May 24, 2024 13:10:34 GMT -5
Precisely my point: Trump's lies inspired the protests. He has repeatedly said that he would pardon all or most of the convicted protesters. That says it all. He condones and encourages further violence. Most convicted caused no injuries or property damage. At most they were trespassing and disorderly, for which the sentences were grossly excessive. Those that did not cause injuries or property damage SHOULD be considered for at least commutation, and in some cases pardons, esp. for those that are not chronic troublemakers. No, he never condones or supports violence. In fact, he has clearly stated he wants no violence. Very pro law and order. More liberal propaganda about Trump.
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Post by colt46 on May 24, 2024 13:15:50 GMT -5
Trump said to peacefully protest on January6, he didn’t say go storm the Capitol,you can find videos Were he said to peaceful protest!
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Post by donkey on May 24, 2024 13:31:45 GMT -5
Trump said to peacefully protest on January6, he didn’t say go storm the Capitol,you can find videos Were he said to peaceful protest! LoL...dems never mention that. It destroys their fake narrative.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on May 24, 2024 14:18:03 GMT -5
Trump may have inspired a protest, but he did NOT encourage violence Precisely my point: Trump's lies inspired the protests. He has repeatedly said that he would pardon all or most of the convicted protesters. That says it all. He condones and encourages further violence. The J6ers didn’t go far enough. I was hoping to see a mass arrest of almost every member in Congress. The Uniparty is responsible for destroying this country.
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