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Post by The Jackinator on May 26, 2024 16:49:56 GMT -5
Disagree, she milked the old duffers dry - that's why there are no concerts, and why concerts get canceled, lol I agree she getting low on fans, but she has had several recent concerts where she sold a decent # of seats. Xmas concert, OC summer concert, April concert in Spring, TX. While it's not a lot, its still some $$$ for Jackie. Easy for you to say give up the remaining $$$ in income for no $$$$ in a genre in which you have no fan base. Not going to happen, nor should it. You don't throw out he baby with the bath water. lol Sounds like you want Jackie to work bars and dives and mabye a winery or two and try to develop a new fan base that way. Its the only way she can do it with all new genre music, and it would take years to accomplish, if it happens at all, which is a long shot. She has no future in cc and barely a future in pop. She has to gamble with the remaining chips she has. If she stays in cc, she will go nowhere. Her success in pop is likely almost zero as well. But if she doesn't make a major move in building a pop fan base, her career is over. lololololol
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Post by donkey on May 26, 2024 16:54:46 GMT -5
I agree she getting low on fans, but she has had several recent concerts where she sold a decent # of seats. Xmas concert, OC summer concert, April concert in Spring, TX. While it's not a lot, its still some $$$ for Jackie. Easy for you to say give up the remaining $$$ in income for no $$$$ in a genre in which you have no fan base. Not going to happen, nor should it. You don't throw out he baby with the bath water. lol Sounds like you want Jackie to work bars and dives and mabye a winery or two and try to develop a new fan base that way. Its the only way she can do it with all new genre music, and it would take years to accomplish, if it happens at all, which is a long shot. She has no future in cc and barely a future in pop. She has to gamble with the remaining chips she has. If she stays in cc, she will go nowhere. Her success in pop is likely almost zero as well. But if she doesn't make a major move in building a pop fan base, her career is over. lololololol She can do the occasional private show or public gig and make some decent money doing it based on her AGT/cc fame for years and years...mabye for the rest of her life. You might as well forget about her tossing that. It would be a dumb thing to do...toss a good thing like that...it gives her some low level security. Her past fame and music also gives her a leg up on other pop unknowns as it gets her national interviews and the occasional national appearance, like on TMS. She is focused on pushing her new music...that's great too. If any of it ever starts catching on, then there would be reason to consider new music only concerts. Until then, you are jumping the gun and offering bad advice. Never throw away a sure thing for a high risk thing. You will usually end up with nothing. lol
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Post by The Jackinator on May 26, 2024 17:00:03 GMT -5
She has no future in cc and barely a future in pop. She has to gamble with the remaining chips she has. If she stays in cc, she will go nowhere. Her success in pop is likely almost zero as well. But if she doesn't make a major move in building a pop fan base, her career is over. lololololol She can do the occasional private show or public gig and make some decent money doing it based on her AGT/cc fame for years and years...mabye for the rest of her life. You might as well forget about her tossing that. It would be a dumb thing to do...toss a good thing like that...it gives her some low level security. Her past fame and music also gives her a leg up on other pop unknowns as it gets her national interviews and the occasional national appearance, like on TMS. She is focused on pushing her new music...that's great too. If any of it ever starts catching on, then there would be reason to consider new music only concerts. Until then, you are jumping the gun and offering bad advice. Never throw away a sure thing for a high risk thing. You will usually end up with nothing. lol We'll have agree to disagree, lol. She's almost next to nothing as it is.
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Post by msims on May 26, 2024 17:01:14 GMT -5
I agree she getting low on fans, but she has had several recent concerts where she sold a decent # of seats. Xmas concert, OC summer concert, April concert in Spring, TX. While it's not a lot, its still some $$$ for Jackie. Easy for you to say give up the remaining $$$ in income for no $$$$ in a genre in which you have no fan base. Not going to happen, nor should it. You don't throw out he baby with the bath water. lol Sounds like you want Jackie to work bars and dives and mabye a winery or two and try to develop a new fan base that way. Its the only way she can do it with all new genre music, and it would take years to accomplish, if it happens at all, which is a long shot. She has no future in cc and barely a future in pop. She has to gamble with the remaining chips she has. If she stays in cc, she will go nowhere. Her success in pop is likely almost zero as well. But if she doesn't make a major move in building a pop fan base, her career is over. lololololol Cait having another psychotic episode here. Older people are not attending concerts as much as ive read on reddit, nothing to do with Jackie. Biden economy is not helping matters either with inflation, a major band just cancelled their tour its costing hundreds of dollars for fans to attend, look at the price of Taylor's concerts thats how much it costs to put on a show like that and keep her out there. Slashing ticket prices for 54 below is great and I would also suggest her upcoming tour have lower ticket prices because again inflation and everything. These concerts are like loss leaders, talking about money is uneducated in '24. Shes not going to making much money doing pop, but her CC concerts will do well of which she could book another half a dozen this year or so. Jackie will always do well but its okay to lose money too however that has nothing to do with her, shes doing good.
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 26, 2024 17:11:31 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel is a Catholic? I sincerely doubt it, he detests Christians. He says he's a Catholic, but he doesn't believe in most of what Jesus taught - that's a modern, liberal Catholic - like Joe Biden. Biden thinks that transgenderism, gay marriage and abortion is A-OK. eulenspiegel has placed his faith in man and in government, like a good liberal does. I grew up there and was an altar boy for 7 years..but there is a big difference. between catholics in the US and in Germany..who are much more liberal..btw. most of US catholics are just. hypocrites .. and there is e.g. no problem with married priests and having kids…the church started it in the 9th century to save their property..every priest got some land with his job..so if he married..and got kids he was able to his kids… The pope could allow marriage of priests in 5 seconds ..with one signature. In ancient times many priests were married even bishops.
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Post by donkey on May 26, 2024 17:15:24 GMT -5
She can do the occasional private show or public gig and make some decent money doing it based on her AGT/cc fame for years and years...mabye for the rest of her life. You might as well forget about her tossing that. It would be a dumb thing to do...toss a good thing like that...it gives her some low level security. Her past fame and music also gives her a leg up on other pop unknowns as it gets her national interviews and the occasional national appearance, like on TMS. She is focused on pushing her new music...that's great too. If any of it ever starts catching on, then there would be reason to consider new music only concerts. Until then, you are jumping the gun and offering bad advice. Never throw away a sure thing for a high risk thing. You will usually end up with nothing. lol We'll have agree to disagree, lol. She's almost next to nothing as it is. Its next to nothing compared to what she used to make, but its not nothing...which it would be if she abandoned her old music entirely. And, she doesnt have to abandon the old material to have a shot at with the new material...that's a fallacy in your thinking. lol
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Post by richard on May 26, 2024 17:16:08 GMT -5
She has no future in cc and barely a future in pop. She has to gamble with the remaining chips she has. If she stays in cc, she will go nowhere. Her success in pop is likely almost zero as well. But if she doesn't make a major move in building a pop fan base, her career is over. lololololol She can do the occasional private show or public gig and make some decent money doing it based on her AGT/cc fame for years and years...mabye for the rest of her life. You might as well forget about her tossing that. It would be a dumb thing to do...toss a good thing like that...it gives her some low level security. Her past fame and music also gives her a leg up on other pop unknowns as it gets her national interviews and the occasional national appearance, like on TMS. She is focused on pushing her new music...that's great too. If any of it ever starts catching on, then there would be reason to consider new music only concerts. Until then, you are jumping the gun and offering bad advice. Never throw away a sure thing for a high risk thing. You will usually end up with nothing. lol Yes like Tate McRae, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Demi Lovato, Zendaya, Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Dove Cameron, Ariana Grande just to name a few. All of them through away successful acting careers and became singers. A much larger jump then going from just one singing genre to another. Probably being popular made it much easier making the change. While there are Jackie OTT fans that claim popularity means nothing. If Jackie had the several million followers she should have by now it would be easy for her also.
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 26, 2024 17:18:17 GMT -5
He says he's a Catholic, but he doesn't believe in most of what Jesus taught - that's a modern, liberal Catholic - like Joe Biden. Biden thinks that transgenderism, gay marriage and abortion is A-OK. eulenspiegel has placed his faith in man and in government, like a good liberal does. I grew up there and was an altar boy for 7 years..but there is a big difference. between catholics in the US and in Germany..who are much more liberal..btw. most of US catholics are just. hypocrites .. and there is e.g. no problem with married priests and having kids…the church started it in the 9th century to save their property..every priest got some land with his job..so if he married..and got kids he was able to his kids… The pope could allow marriage of priests in 5 seconds ..with one signature. In ancient times many priests were married even bishops. btw. it is a village with 2500 citizens and a cathedral..which was built at the end of the 19th century to kick tbe protestant Prussian government in the ass (Kulturkampf) and in 1944 one US guy got a Medal of Honor www.cmohs.org/recipients/peter-j-dalessondroI think around 15 were awarded in our region…Battle of the Bulge..
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 26, 2024 17:23:43 GMT -5
and 7km from my home village..this medieval town…btw. Christo covered its castle in 1971..many years before Berlin or Paris with similar…
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Post by The Jackinator on May 26, 2024 17:23:46 GMT -5
We'll have agree to disagree, lol. She's almost next to nothing as it is. Its next to nothing compared to what she used to make, but its not nothing...which it would be if she abandoned her old music entirely. And, she doesnt have to abandon the old material to have a shot at with the new material...that's a fallacy in your thinking. lol She and many fans have been whining that she is stuck at being the 10-year old voice with a big voice. But she has continued to perpetuate the image over and over through the years. She has always had the opportunity to change her image by going on a limb and changing her image. Her very few old fans may not like it, but her potential target market grows exponentially by converting to pop. There is no fallacy. Sorry to tell you, but you're wrong, lol.
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Post by donkey on May 26, 2024 17:24:19 GMT -5
She can do the occasional private show or public gig and make some decent money doing it based on her AGT/cc fame for years and years...mabye for the rest of her life. You might as well forget about her tossing that. It would be a dumb thing to do...toss a good thing like that...it gives her some low level security. Her past fame and music also gives her a leg up on other pop unknowns as it gets her national interviews and the occasional national appearance, like on TMS. She is focused on pushing her new music...that's great too. If any of it ever starts catching on, then there would be reason to consider new music only concerts. Until then, you are jumping the gun and offering bad advice. Never throw away a sure thing for a high risk thing. You will usually end up with nothing. lol Yes like Tate McRae, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Demi Lovato, Zendaya, Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Dove Cameron, Ariana Grande just to name a few. All of them through away successful acting careers and became singers. A much larger jump then going from just one singing genre to another. Probably being popular made it much easier making the change. While there are Jackie OTT fans that claim popularity means nothing. If Jackie had the several million followers she should have by now it would be easy for her also. We have to look at it as it stands right now. LoL...when you have a huge following (and a great voice), its much easier to transition from acting to singing. Jackie no longer has a large fan base, so she brings almost nobody over with her to the new genre. And her voice, while nice, doesn't really stand out in the new genre anyway. Many of the names you mention have standout voices and more entertaining personalities. Not a good comparison to make.
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Post by msims on May 26, 2024 17:25:25 GMT -5
Jackie no longer has a large fan base Not accurate. The question is why do you want to considered a fan of someone you have no respect for?
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 26, 2024 17:25:58 GMT -5
and 7km from my home village..this medieval town…btw. Christo covered its castle in 1971..many years before Berlin or Paris with similar… btw. some soldiers during the US civil war were dressed in clothes, fabric made there
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Post by donkey on May 26, 2024 17:30:39 GMT -5
Jackie no longer has a large fan base Not accurate. Hmmmm....in all fairness, let me consider your words carefully, Msims.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 26, 2024 17:41:25 GMT -5
btw. it is a village with 2500 citizens and a cathedral..which was built at the end of the 19th century to kick tbe protestant Prussian government in the ass (Kulturkampf) and in 1944 one US guy got a Medal of Honor www.cmohs.org/recipients/peter-j-dalessondroI think around 15 were awarded in our region…Battle of the Bulge.. There are hypocrites in every country, but the US form of Catholicism has been able to withstand the onslaught of liberalism a little better than European Catholicism. We are fast-catching up with Europe recently, though. The idea that priests shouldn't be married is unbiblical in the first place. That was a man-made tradition started in the Catholic church to preserve wealth in the church and to prevent wives from taking inheritances outside of church control. Yes, the pope should allow for priests to be married. But leaving out the issue of priest marriage, the ideas of transgenderism, gay marriage and abortion go contrary not only against Christian principles, but also against the Catholic catechism. The church is supposed to exist as an entity set apart from the common culture, not to be a reflection of it.
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