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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 15, 2024 13:44:17 GMT -5
in the end..it is all about a total corrupt judge..hoping to get some…you asked me yesterday why Trump etc. are a thread for US democracy…here you see it… And the George Soros judges aren't corrupt? LMAO, you're funny.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 15, 2024 13:55:33 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel is for a corrupt America !
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Post by colt46 on Jul 15, 2024 14:06:00 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel doesn’t understand what kind of government we have in this country!
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Post by richard on Jul 15, 2024 14:22:27 GMT -5
Trump announced JD Vance as his VP pick. He is a strong 2nd amendment supporter.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 15, 2024 14:24:50 GMT -5
JD VANCE WILL DESTROY HARRIS IN A DEBATE!
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 15, 2024 14:45:47 GMT -5
Trump announced JD Vance as his VP pick. He is a strong 2nd amendment supporter.
Tyrants/Dictators that want to destroy "democracy" would not try to protect gun rights, but rather, they would attempt to confiscate guns or implement extreme policies against them. Whoever has the guns, has the power
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Post by colt46 on Jul 15, 2024 14:51:49 GMT -5
Biden wants to take away guns from American’s !
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 15, 2024 15:18:33 GMT -5
Tyrants/Dictators that want to destroy "democracy" would not try to protect gun rights, but rather, they would attempt to confiscate guns or implement extreme policies against them. Whoever has the guns, has the power Thomas Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, had the guns and the power. But, unfortunately for him, not the aim. You support the right of individuals to have guns and power. But, for some inexplicable reason, you seemed unhappy when Crooks exercised his right to use that power.
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Post by richard on Jul 15, 2024 16:27:23 GMT -5
Tyrants/Dictators that want to destroy "democracy" would not try to protect gun rights, but rather, they would attempt to confiscate guns or implement extreme policies against them. Whoever has the guns, has the power Thomas Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, had the guns and the power. But, unfortunately for him, not the aim. You support the right of individuals to have guns and power. But, for some inexplicable reason, you seemed unhappy when Crooks exercised his right to use that power. You have a right to drive a car but that doesn't mean you have a right to run someone over.
The 2nd amendment doesn't give you a right to shoot someone.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 15, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -5
Tyrants/Dictators that want to destroy "democracy" would not try to protect gun rights, but rather, they would attempt to confiscate guns or implement extreme policies against them. Whoever has the guns, has the power Thomas Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, had the guns and the power. But, unfortunately for him, not the aim. You support the right of individuals to have guns and power. But, for some inexplicable reason, you seemed unhappy when Crooks exercised his right to use that power. When I was younger, I was in favor of the government seizing all weapons from the population because of the number of cases where people died as a result of the existence of guns. All of those cases were so sad. I then looked into this issue and learned that my position was completely naive. The reason the US founders made sure that the 2nd amendment was included in the bill of rights is because they had studied history and knew that guns left only in the hands in the government had resulted in the largest incidents of democide (genocide by governments). Governments are the biggest murderers in the history of the world. Monarchies in Europe were the greatest perpetrators of democide, so the founders made sure that the people had at least as much power as the government in case would-be dictators came on the scene. In the 20th century alone, we saw that the first policies that dictators put in place were gun control polices. Castro in Cuba, Mao in China, Hitler in Germany (took guns from Jews), Stalin in Russia, Chavez in Venezuela all took the guns from their populations and the result was democide on a massive scale. The communist government in Cambodia, headed by Pol Pot, seized guns as soon as it gained power. The movie, the Killing Fields, showed the result in all of its gory details. The US, under Ronald Reagan, sent massive amounts of weapons to Somalia's dictator, Siad Barre, and the result was the Isaaq genocide. Somalia is currently one of the top 10 countries subject to the highest risk of genocide. In North Korea, where guns are allowed only by government officials, civilians are trapped in slavery because they have no tools to overthrow their government. The country is in a complete blackout and the people there are mostly starving. There is no perfect policy that is going to work 100% of the time. The downside for 2nd amendment rights is that guns will find their way into the hands of crazies including people like Crooks. Yes, people are going to die because of those crazies, however they are going to die on massively smaller scale than when guns are concentrated in the hands of the crazies in the government. It's better to have the people owning guns that kill a handful of individuals instead of having a government that murders in the millions. It takes only one lunatic leader for democide. Having paid attention to the behavior of the US government over time, that is the last organization I would trust with sole ownership of firearms. Would you trust Trump if he was in charge of the only organization that could possess guns? In the big picture, the reason that our government has guns is for defending the US from foreign countries. Similarly, individuals in the population need guns not only for self-defense from other civilians, but also for self-defense from its own government.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 15, 2024 16:50:48 GMT -5
Thomas Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, had the guns and the power. But, unfortunately for him, not the aim. You support the right of individuals to have guns and power. But, for some inexplicable reason, you seemed unhappy when Crooks exercised his right to use that power. You have a right to drive a car but that doesn't mean you have a right to run someone over.
The 2nd amendment doesn't give you a right to shoot someone. But cars have many functions aside from running someone over. Guns, on the other hand, exist only to shoot someone. They have no other function. What good is it to give people the right to own guns but forbid people from using those guns?
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Post by colt46 on Jul 15, 2024 16:53:35 GMT -5
You can use a kitchen knife 🔪 to kill someone , lets outlaw knives!
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 15, 2024 16:57:16 GMT -5
Tyrants/Dictators that want to destroy "democracy" would not try to protect gun rights, but rather, they would attempt to confiscate guns or implement extreme policies against them. Whoever has the guns, has the power Thomas Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, had the guns and the power. But, unfortunately for him, not the aim. You support the right of individuals to have guns and power. But, for some inexplicable reason, you seemed unhappy when Crooks exercised his right to use that power. Come on now, you're better than that. The 2nd amendment does not give the individuals like Crooks to murder people - that's why laws exist punishing those that do so.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 15, 2024 17:00:05 GMT -5
You have a right to drive a car but that doesn't mean you have a right to run someone over.
The 2nd amendment doesn't give you a right to shoot someone. But cars have many functions aside from running someone over. Guns, on the other hand, exist only to shoot someone. They have no other function. What good is it to give people the right to own guns but forbid people from using those guns? The 2nd amendment exists to protect the right of self-defense. It is not intended to be a license to shoot up the neighborhood. Guess you are not better than that.
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Post by richard on Jul 15, 2024 17:12:13 GMT -5
You have a right to drive a car but that doesn't mean you have a right to run someone over.
The 2nd amendment doesn't give you a right to shoot someone. But cars have many functions aside from running someone over. Guns, on the other hand, exist only to shoot someone. They have no other function. What good is it to give people the right to own guns but forbid people from using those guns? They are used in hunting, self defense and sports. All legal uses for guns not only that but they are the one things you can buy and probably sell 50 years later for more than you paid for it. Ammunition is the same way I bought several boxes of ammunition 20 years ago that sold for $100 for 1000 rnds you can sell it now for over $400 for 1000 rnds. Guns are a great thing to hand down for generations even if you don't shoot them.
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