Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Aug 6, 2024 22:56:22 GMT -5
Just. Think Eulenspiegel has found an American ๐บ๐ธ that he can finally relate to in Walz !
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2024 0:38:52 GMT -5
Elon Musk reveals his ignorance. As do all the Trumpheads who whine about how "undemocratic" Kamala Harris's nomination was. The simple fact is that NO citizen in a Democratic primary election directly votes for Harris or Biden or any other Democratic nominee. When a citizen "votes" for any Democratic nominee, they are actually voting to elect Democratic Convention delegates who in turn vote to elect the actual nominee. (It is exactly like presidential elections where voters think they are voting for the president when they are actually voting for electors who in turn actually vote to elect the president.) So the nomination of Harris was exactly the same as the nomination of every other previous Democratic nominee. Democratic primary voters elected delegates who then voted for Harris to be the Democratic nominee. The only difference was that normally the delegates would have voted for Biden but, since Biden withdrew from the race, the delegates were free to vote for any other Democrat, regardless of whether that Democrat participated in the primaries. They chose to vote for Harris since she was the one Biden endorsed after he withdrew. Elon's whining, and the whining of all the other Trumpheads, is a good example of how those who are the most ignorant whine the loudest. What is most interesting is that most of the whining about the "undemocratic" nomination of Harris came from Trumpheads, not Democrats. Trumpheads whined loudest not because they support "democracy" (they don't) but because they are terrified of Harris (a terror that is fully justified as confirmed by subsequent polls). If Trumpheads were not afraid of Harris, they would have welcomed her nomination instead of whining about it. On the other hand, very few Democrats whined about Harris's "undemocratic" nomination. That's because most of them love her and see her as their path to beating Trump.
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Post by BOGC on Aug 7, 2024 1:52:46 GMT -5
Elon Musk reveals his ignorance. As do all the Trumpheads who whine about how "undemocratic" Kamala Harris's nomination was. The simple fact is that NO citizen in a Democratic primary election directly votes for Harris or Biden or any other Democratic nominee. When a citizen "votes" for any Democratic nominee, they are actually voting to elect Democratic Convention delegates who in turn vote to elect the actual nominee. (It is exactly like presidential elections where voters think they are voting for the president when they are actually voting for electors who in turn actually vote to elect the president.) So the nomination of Harris was exactly the same as the nomination of every other previous Democratic nominee. Democratic primary voters elected delegates who then voted for Harris to be the Democratic nominee. The only difference was that normally the delegates would have voted for Biden but, since Biden withdrew from the race, the delegates were free to vote for any other Democrat, regardless of whether that Democrat participated in the primaries. They chose to vote for Harris since she was the one Biden endorsed after he withdrew. Elon's whining, and the whining of all the other Trumpheads, is a good example of how those who are the most ignorant whine the loudest. What is most interesting is that most of the whining about the "undemocratic" nomination of Harris came from Trumpheads, not Democrats. Trumpheads whined loudest not because they support "democracy" (they don't) but because they are terrified of Harris (a terror that is fully justified as confirmed by subsequent polls). If Trumpheads were not afraid of Harris, they would have welcomed her nomination instead of whining about it. On the other hand, very few Democrats whined about Harris's "undemocratic" nomination. That's because most of them love her and see her as their path to beating Trump. Nobody sane is terrified of Kamala because she's likely to win. She's an extremist and incompetent, and hopefully will go down in flames, metaphorically speaking. They're terrified because if she DID win, she'd destroy the country. The Democrats have become marxist traitors. Not all their voters of course, most of those still think they mean well. But most of their candidates want absolute power forever, so they must NEVER get it. Needs should not be met by government nor compulsorily by society, but by the needy themselves, or by voluntary private charity. Or Darwin should improve the species. The border should be secured; although we need some immigration, we do NOT need everyone on the planet that wants to come here. Violent criminals should be removed from society, not coddled. Electors are generally bound to the popular votes of their states. I suppose if someone that won the electoral vote withdrew before the count of electoral votes was certified, they could pick someone else; there would not be a do-over on the election. But the analogy is poor. And the Democrats have rather more of a reputation than the Republicans for back room deals, and for the fix being in. Various of their candidates (win or lose) came up not because they were awesome or popular, but because they consolidated DNC backing early enough; in effect, it was their turn more than their accomplishment. The left is just evil and should not exist, period. No, I don't want one-party Republican rule. I want conservatives vs libertarians (a win for freedom either way!), and communists and their ilk kept out of power forever, and shot like the rabid animals they are if they riot.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 7, 2024 7:51:36 GMT -5
Elon Musk reveals his ignorance. As do all the Trumpheads who whine about how "undemocratic" Kamala Harris's nomination was. The simple fact is that NO citizen in a Democratic primary election directly votes for Harris or Biden or any other Democratic nominee. When a citizen "votes" for any Democratic nominee, they are actually voting to elect Democratic Convention delegates who in turn vote to elect the actual nominee. (It is exactly like presidential elections where voters think they are voting for the president when they are actually voting for electors who in turn actually vote to elect the president.) So the nomination of Harris was exactly the same as the nomination of every other previous Democratic nominee. Democratic primary voters elected delegates who then voted for Harris to be the Democratic nominee. The only difference was that normally the delegates would have voted for Biden but, since Biden withdrew from the race, the delegates were free to vote for any other Democrat, regardless of whether that Democrat participated in the primaries. They chose to vote for Harris since she was the one Biden endorsed after he withdrew. Elon's whining, and the whining of all the other Trumpheads, is a good example of how those who are the most ignorant whine the loudest. What is most interesting is that most of the whining about the "undemocratic" nomination of Harris came from Trumpheads, not Democrats. Trumpheads whined loudest not because they support "democracy" (they don't) but because they are terrified of Harris (a terror that is fully justified as confirmed by subsequent polls). If Trumpheads were not afraid of Harris, they would have welcomed her nomination instead of whining about it. On the other hand, very few Democrats whined about Harris's "undemocratic" nomination. That's because most of them love her and see her as their path to beating Trump. LOL. That's BS and you know it's BS. Stop insulting our intelligence. In a primary there's no possible way she would have gotten the nomination. No way. The delegates were given a choice. Harris or Harris. The Dems had Biden do that debate early knowing that he'd blow it (even though a week before he was sharp as a tack), then immediately the entire MSM and Hollywierds pretended to be shocked, giving them a reason to throw him under the bus. Then Harris was annointed. Zero votes. ZERO. So they got what they wanted, a radical nutjob, and then she chose a communist to be her running mate. Done deal. No citizen choice. None.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 7, 2024 8:07:52 GMT -5
Elon Musk reveals his ignorance. As do all the Trumpheads who whine about how "undemocratic" Kamala Harris's nomination was. The simple fact is that NO citizen in a Democratic primary election directly votes for Harris or Biden or any other Democratic nominee. When a citizen "votes" for any Democratic nominee, they are actually voting to elect Democratic Convention delegates who in turn vote to elect the actual nominee. (It is exactly like presidential elections where voters think they are voting for the president when they are actually voting for electors who in turn actually vote to elect the president.) So the nomination of Harris was exactly the same as the nomination of every other previous Democratic nominee. Democratic primary voters elected delegates who then voted for Harris to be the Democratic nominee. The only difference was that normally the delegates would have voted for Biden but, since Biden withdrew from the race, the delegates were free to vote for any other Democrat, regardless of whether that Democrat participated in the primaries. They chose to vote for Harris since she was the one Biden endorsed after he withdrew. Elon's whining, and the whining of all the other Trumpheads, is a good example of how those who are the most ignorant whine the loudest. What is most interesting is that most of the whining about the "undemocratic" nomination of Harris came from Trumpheads, not Democrats. Trumpheads whined loudest not because they support "democracy" (they don't) but because they are terrified of Harris (a terror that is fully justified as confirmed by subsequent polls). If Trumpheads were not afraid of Harris, they would have welcomed her nomination instead of whining about it. On the other hand, very few Democrats whined about Harris's "undemocratic" nomination. That's because most of them love her and see her as their path to beating Trump. Nobody sane is terrified of Kamala because she's likely to win. She's an extremist and incompetent, and hopefully will go down in flames, metaphorically speaking. They're terrified because if she DID win, she'd destroy the country. The Democrats have become marxist traitors. Not all their voters of course, most of those still think they mean well. But most of their candidates want absolute power forever, so they must NEVER get it. Needs should not be met by government nor compulsorily by society, but by the needy themselves, or by voluntary private charity. Or Darwin should improve the species. The border should be secured; although we need some immigration, we do NOT need everyone on the planet that wants to come here. Violent criminals should be removed from society, not coddled. Electors are generally bound to the popular votes of their states. I suppose if someone that won the electoral vote withdrew before the count of electoral votes was certified, they could pick someone else; there would not be a do-over on the election. But the analogy is poor.And the Democrats have rather more of a reputation than the Republicans for back room deals, and for the fix being in. Various of their candidates (win or lose) came up not because they were awesome or popular, but because they consolidated DNC backing early enough; in effect, it was their turn more than their accomplishment. The left is just evil and should not exist, period. No, I don't want one-party Republican rule. I want conservatives vs libertarians (a win for freedom either way!), and communists and their ilk kept out of power forever, and shot like the rabid animals they are if they riot. I was thinking about what would happen in a situation where the nominee dropped out or dropped dead, what they'd do. The fairest thing to do, if there wasn't a lot of time to run another primary, would be to put the person through who had the second highest number of votes. What a novel idea, actual citizen votes. But they really couldn't do that this time, could they, since no one except Biden was allowed to run. He was also annointed. But when it was clear that he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, they stabbed him in the back and threw his body under the bus. It's disgusting enough that they did it, but what's even worse is that they believed that people weren't going to notice. LOL
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2024 8:26:12 GMT -5
LOL. That's BS and you know it's BS. Stop insulting our intelligence. In a primary there's no possible way she would have gotten the nomination. No way. The delegates were given a choice. Harris or Harris. The Dems had Biden do that debate early knowing that he'd blow it (even though a week before he was sharp as a tack), then immediately the entire MSM and Hollywierds pretended to be shocked, giving them a reason to throw him under the bus. Then Harris was annointed. Zero votes. ZERO. So they got what they wanted, a radical nutjob, and then she chose a communist to be her running mate. Done deal. No citizen choice. None. All you have done is make assertions without evidence. I seldom participate in political discussions because they are long on assertions and short on evidence.
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Post by colt46 on Aug 7, 2024 8:26:50 GMT -5
So , SoCal Fan is ok with open borders with no vetting process, ok with illegals getting drivers licenses, social security, Medicare , free healthcare for all illegals, free college for illegals! Defund the police, You want the entire country to be like California! I will pass on that ! You go ahead and vote ๐ณ๏ธ for Harris/ Walz in November! I am voting ๐ณ๏ธ for Trump/ Vance ticket!I donโt want to live in your vision of what America ๐บ๐ธ should be!
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 7, 2024 8:44:24 GMT -5
LOL. That's BS and you know it's BS. Stop insulting our intelligence. In a primary there's no possible way she would have gotten the nomination. No way. The delegates were given a choice. Harris or Harris. The Dems had Biden do that debate early knowing that he'd blow it (even though a week before he was sharp as a tack), then immediately the entire MSM and Hollywierds pretended to be shocked, giving them a reason to throw him under the bus. Then Harris was annointed. Zero votes. ZERO. So they got what they wanted, a radical nutjob, and then she chose a communist to be her running mate. Done deal. No citizen choice. None. All you have done is make assertions without evidence. I seldom participate in political discussions because they are long on assertions and short on evidence. Where's the evidence for your assertions? You know without any evidence that citizens would have voted for Harris? Because had they not, the delegates would be giving their okay for the person who won. You don't know that because there was no primary.
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2024 8:52:56 GMT -5
You know without any evidence that citizens would have voted for Harris? Because had they not, the delegates would be giving their okay for the person who won. Did you bother to read what I wrote? I have no idea if the citizens in the primary would have voted for Harris or not. Because it is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the citizens in the primary elected the delegates. And the delegates elected Harris as the Democratic nominee. Which is the same process in every election year. What I do know is that ever since Harris was nominated, Democratic voters have overwhelmingly supported Harris in poll after poll. Democratic voters may or may not have supported Harris in the primaries but they support her now which is the only thing that matters.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 7, 2024 9:14:11 GMT -5
You know without any evidence that citizens would have voted for Harris? Because had they not, the delegates would be giving their okay for the person who won. Did you bother to read what I wrote? I have no idea if the citizens in the primary would have voted for Harris or not. Because it is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the citizens in the primary elected the delegates. And the delegates elected Harris as the Democratic nominee. Which is the same process in every election year. What I do know is that ever since Harris was nominated, Democratic voters have overwhelmingly supported Harris in poll after poll. Democratic voters may or may not have supported Harris in the primaries but they support her now which is the only thing that matters. They're supporting her, but they also supported Biden, even though everyone knew his mental capacity was failing and he couldn't have done a worse job had he tried, but like Harris, they weren't given a choice. It was Joe or no one. He was thrust on the public, so was Harris.
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2024 9:44:51 GMT -5
He was thrust on the public, so was Harris. After Biden withdrew, the delegates had a choice and they chose Harris. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it. Of course, it was to no surprise that the delegates very quickly chose Harris given that they were originally pledged to Biden who left and endorsed Harris. They had always been loyal to the Biden-Harris campaign.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 7, 2024 9:57:16 GMT -5
He was thrust on the public, so was Harris. After Biden withdrew, the delegates had a choice and they chose Harris. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it. Of course, it was to no surprise that the delegates very quickly chose Harris given that they were originally pledged to Biden who left and endorsed Harris. They had always been loyal to the Biden-Harris campaign. They had NO CHOICE with Biden. NONE. And they had no choice with Harris either since there was NO PRIMARY. And you know how she did when she ran in 2020.
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2024 10:03:08 GMT -5
And they had no choice with Harris either since there was NO PRIMARY. No primary? Then how were the delegates elected? And you know how she did when she ran in 2020. I know how Harris did in 2020. I also know how Trump did in 2020.
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Post by donkey on Aug 7, 2024 10:10:05 GMT -5
And they had no choice with Harris either since there was NO PRIMARY. No primary? Then how were the delegates elected? And you know how she did when she ran in 2020. I know how Harris did in 2020. I also know how Trump did in 2020. Trump did very well in 2020. He got more votes than any sitting president in history and lost by the slimmest of margins...approx 40k votes today in handful of swing states. Dems had a primary and the dem voters elected their candidate to run in the general election. But then the party leaders and donors decided they didn't like Biden's poll numbers, so they decided to force the elected candidate out and install their own candidate. They didnt want to go with Harris due to her unpopularity, but had to in order to access Biden's campaign donations. Dems dont care about democracy, they just want to win. Of course, I'm thrilled it's Harris. I can't think of a worse candidate. lol
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Post by colt46 on Aug 7, 2024 10:15:23 GMT -5
A vote for Harris/ Walz would be a disaster for American ๐บ๐ธ!
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