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Post by Colt46 on May 5, 2022 10:38:02 GMT -5
I am not surprised Richard , by saying Jackie’s new music is nothing, after all you are not a fan of her’s!
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 10:42:54 GMT -5
I am not surprised Richard , by saying Jackie’s new music is nothing, after all you are not a fan of her’s! Sure not a fan of how she or her team runs her career. |
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Post by donkey on May 5, 2022 10:45:00 GMT -5
You have to agree based on what? I tend to agree with him. If this is true, where are her social media posts on Instagram and Facebook about it? Where are her national interviews talking about it? Why is she trickling out song after song of the new album and why is the album itself so delayed, even a month after she told her concert audience that its coming out in June? Now it's late summer? The album still clearly isn't ready to be released even though it was recorded quite a while ago now. Something definitely isn't right with the production of that album, or Jackies very low key advertising of it. Well, at least in Instagram stories she just posted this: Attachments:
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 11:40:50 GMT -5
You have to agree based on what? I tend to agree with him. If this is true, where are her social media posts on Instagram and Facebook about it? Where are her national interviews talking about it? Why is she trickling out song after song of the new album and why is the album itself so delayed, even a month after she told her concert audience that its coming out in June? Now it's late summer? The album still clearly isn't ready to be released even though it was recorded quite a while ago now. Something definitely isn't right with the production of that album, or Jackies very low key advertising of it. Well, at least in Instagram stories she just posted this: Even that Jackie just reposted from Broadway World. Normally both artist and label post at the same time of a new recording. I don't think I heard of an artist waiting till just 1/2 of a day posting a new song. |
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Post by donkey on May 5, 2022 12:11:46 GMT -5
You have to agree based on what? I tend to agree with him. If this is true, where are her social media posts on Instagram and Facebook about it? Where are her national interviews talking about it? Why is she trickling out song after song of the new album and why is the album itself so delayed, even a month after she told her concert audience that its coming out in June? Now it's late summer? The album still clearly isn't ready to be released even though it was recorded quite a while ago now. Something definitely isn't right with the production of that album, or Jackies very low key advertising of it. Well, at least in Instagram stories she just posted this: Even that Jackie just reposted from Broadway World. Normally both artist and label post at the same time of a new recording. I don't think I heard of an artist waiting till just 1/2 of a day posting a new song. Yeah, I know. I'm just grateful for anything from her at this point. lol |
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 12:54:47 GMT -5
Christina Turino reposted Jackie's story but added to it to let everyone know she took the photo.
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Post by amg1977 on May 5, 2022 12:57:24 GMT -5
I am wondering just how invested Jackie really is in this album. She probably does like Joni Mitchell's music and was fine covering a song or two but I wonder if a Joni cover album was "suggested" by Melody Place rather than being her idea.
I can imagine after moving past the off-Broadway mafia who directed some of her recent efforts and TMS, she thought she might finally get to do what she wants - including a few originals. Well. Fred Mollin did make his opinion of self composed songs by non-professional songwriters known a few months back and I doubt he would have approved of her as a potential source of material.
Jackie may be voicing her displeasure with the situation by doing the bare minimum required.
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Post by ChrisR on May 5, 2022 15:01:30 GMT -5
You have to agree based on what? I tend to agree with him. If this is true, where are her social media posts on Instagram and Facebook about it? Where are her national interviews talking about it? Why is she trickling out song after song of the new album and why is the album itself so delayed, even a month after she told her concert audience that its coming out in June? Now it's late summer? The album still clearly isn't ready to be released even though it was recorded quite a while ago now. Something definitely isn't right with the production of that album, or Jackies very low key advertising of it. Well, at least in Instagram stories she just posted this: I wonder if Jackie isn't pleased with her new album!? |
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Post by Haz bin Bin on May 5, 2022 15:19:12 GMT -5
Looks like Fred Mollin was once a somebody, but since Englebert Humperdinck in 2014 the lineup of people he's produced isn't that impressive. His label seems like an incomplete thought or a parking spot for artists in decline, or for business or tax purposes. I didn't spend all day looking, but it didn't take long to get to "What is this?" Why did Jackie sign with a label that doesn't even have a website? This can't be good for her career, and if AMG1977's intuition is correct, Jackie might find herself locked into a dirtbag contract that she didn't have an entertainment attorney review before she signed.
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 16:11:28 GMT -5
Looks like Fred Mollin was once a somebody, but since Englebert Humperdinck in 2014 the lineup of people he's produced isn't that impressive. His label seems like an incomplete thought or a parking spot for artists in decline, or for business or tax purposes. I didn't spend all day looking, but it didn't take long to get to "What is this?" Why did Jackie sign with a label that doesn't even have a website? This can't be good for her career, and if AMG1977's intuition is correct, Jackie might find herself locked into a dirtbag contract that she didn't have an entertainment attorney review before she signed. Sure wouldn't surprise me the Evancho's were good at signing contracts than Lisa would complain about it for the next year. Actually Lisa complained about Melody Place Music as soon as Jackie's "River" was released.
I believe this was it. Lisa may have been the Queen B but she did seem very truthful in her writings as much as many of them dispelled what Jackie's OTT fans were saying.
Lisa Evancho
"you are so right. What you don't get to see are some of the crazy cool, amazing songs she has already written, but her current management and the labels have always forced her into a box they feel is most profitable for them all the while ignoring the beautiful, soulful gifts inside her - always ignoring and never encouraging, nourishing or even validating these hidden gifts that would propel her to greater confidence and growth as a musician and artist.
Like so many other young women in the world who havent yet realized their own unique value for the positive contributions they can make in life and are who still afraid to discover and embrace their own personal power to act as our future world leaders and change agents - young woman with immense potential to accomplish so many wonderful things for themselves and humanity, jackie needs to clean house, surround herself by people who hear HER, see HER and listen to HER.
This is the only approach that can provide the right loving-type of encouragement and genuine validation capable of penetrating the fear and insecurity trap placed on her by a group of people and a system designed to dim the light, sap the strength and control the will of a pliable, niave, and impressionable young lady for their own financial gain without any thought as to what SHE will be left with after they have dried out her current fan base with no long-term plan to attract a new fan base that could sustain her career and future as an artist. All they care about is sapping every last cent from a proven and extremely loyal, yet elderly fan base willing to fork out their hard-earned cash on anything jackie - a fan base that gets smaller and smaller every year as they, unfortunately, literally die off.
This approach makes no sense. Even parasites don't kill the host. So why, you ask, wouldn't her team and her labels over the years have a well thought out plan for our golden goose? Because today's labels lack the ingenuity and creativity as well as desire to develop an artist.
Why spend the money for development when there are a multitude of budding young talents, unaware of their true worth and value, with prepackaged gimmicks that they are willing to give away to bottom-feeding, seedy labels and managers in a system that sells fake promises of fame, fortune, and success? Think a solid contractual agreement that legally locks them into investing "x amount of dollars" to properly market the album you just spent six months to year to conceptualizing, developing and producing with your own blood, sweat and tears will ensure your success? It COULD. But unless you are an A-lister with fat cash who can afford to hire high-priced lawyers that will hold them to the contract, it ain't gonna happen. The labels know this. They count on it. And until the artists and musicians who have already become A-listers during a time when how the industry operated was much different, a time when the industry DID invest in solid artist development plans, market analysis, fan base growth, radio play, etc., until they are willing to use their power and join together in solidarity with the next generation of young, promising, talented musicians and demand an end to the abuse and neglect labels dole out on they daily to young, optimistic, trusting new talent, their unchallenged power and unlimited greed will continue to make them wealthy all the while destroying the hopes and dreams of the young artists who were niave enough to trust them and shattering their lives in the process. These unchallenged, vile perpetrators will forever victimize new talent by making music streaming deals with the companies like Spotify, Google play and Pandora that earn them big money while the true talent, the artists with enough creativity, skill and vision to have already done the hard work of developing a product, gimmick and solid fan base give it away to them yet get mere pennies on the dollar.
Until new artists realize that if the pipeline of gifted talent willing to hand over all their hard work for free to a system of insatiable, money-grubbing fiends were to dry up, the system would be forced to reinvent themselves by offering fair and equitable contracts that satisfy the needs of both parties. In order to survive, they would HAVE to change how they attract and retain new talent. Otherwise, we old timers will just have to fondly remember how nice it once was when there was an endless supply of amazing new music to satisfy our diverse tastes while listening to a disk that quietly plays, "The day the music died" in the background."
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 16:24:51 GMT -5
young woman with immense potential to accomplish so many wonderful things for themselves and humanity, jackie needs to clean house, surround herself by people who hear HER, see HER and listen to HER. WoW imagine that, Lisa agrees with me and several others here that have been saying this for year. It's her label on OTT fans that want to keep her in a box and not branch out like Lisa says she could. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 5, 2022 16:59:13 GMT -5
young woman with immense potential to accomplish so many wonderful things for themselves and humanity, jackie needs to clean house, surround herself by people who hear HER, see HER and listen to HER. WoW imagine that, Lisa agrees with me and several others here that have been saying this for year. It's her label on OTT fans that want to keep her in a box and not branch out like Lisa says she could. But then why didn't she record more of those "crazy cool, amazing songs" when she was independent? |
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Post by richard on May 5, 2022 19:50:01 GMT -5
WoW imagine that, Lisa agrees with me and several others here that have been saying this for year. It's her label on OTT fans that want to keep her in a box and not branch out like Lisa says she could. But then why didn't she record more of those "crazy cool, amazing songs" when she was independent? Because unlike what Jackie said she is not in control, Jackie probably doesn't do anything with out Mike's ok. Did you see Growing up Evancho they made Jackie out as the dimwit of the family surely someone that can't make their own judgements of what to do.
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Post by richard on May 6, 2022 0:10:35 GMT -5
Both sides now is out on Spotify.
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Post by ChrisR on May 6, 2022 0:35:10 GMT -5
Both sides now is out on Spotify. She sings it just fine, but it's the sort of song you would hear at a dentist office. |
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