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Post by johnnyb on Dec 30, 2022 17:17:03 GMT -5
When you project, thats a form of bullying. If you are going to accuse someone of something, quote the person. "Crazy and paranoid" donkey you are under an alias, im not. You agree with a set of talking points that are removed from reality, they are Cait's arguments. Do you agree with the platinum being fake? I doubt you do. But is Jackie capable of signing contracts and doing concert tours? Of course. Jackie is technically eligible for Grammys becauses shes released several albums, but it takes them being submitted. His spam has not released anything. If you don't thing people have motives for trolling, they do. Its gullible to think everyone has good motives when they do not. Read about trolls. You arent bullied msims...you don't hesitate to stand up for yourself and also dish out plenty of name calling and accusations yourself. Some of your crazy accusations and unrealistic assertions as to the current state of Jackie's career invite, no, beg vigorous responses. lol No, I don't agree with Jackie's platinum album being fake. As far as Grammys go, Jackie's struggling to keep her career alive...Grammy's aren't in the picture for her at all right now. Most people post under aliases..that's the norm in these types of discussion threads. msims and donkey are both aliases, unless you are saying "msims" is part of your actual name....I have no idea. But using an alias in this sort of forum is normal and has nothing to do with the "crazy and paranoia" I was referring to.  A lot of the paranoia is you claiming that everyone is posting under everyone else's name, which is rarely the case. In the beginning of the various forums, most people were posting under their real names, Sims has been posting under this name as far back as I can recall. Rick Olsen is a prime example of someone using his real name. |
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Post by Corporate Lackey on Dec 30, 2022 17:19:30 GMT -5
Sims said: "But is Jackie capable of signing contracts and doing concert tours? Of course."
Does Jackie have the authority to sign contracts on behalf of JE Touring? Not a frivolous question. I've never seen anyone but the parents listed on the corporate filings, but it's been a while since I've looked them over.
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Post by What's in a Name? on Dec 30, 2022 17:24:50 GMT -5
In the beginning of the various forums, most people were posting under their real names, Sims has been posting under this name as far back as I can recall. Rick Olsen is a prime example of someone using his real name. Oh yeah, I remember some of those guys, like Mr. Heavenly Angel. Mr. Tunanorth. Mr. Sempi Turnam (sp?) |
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Post by johnnyb on Dec 30, 2022 17:33:58 GMT -5
In the beginning of the various forums, most people were posting under their real names, Sims has been posting under this name as far back as I can recall. Rick Olsen is a prime example of someone using his real name. Oh yeah, I remember some of those guys, like Mr. Heavenly Angel. Mr. Tunanorth. Mr. Sempi Turnam (sp?) Rick was good at revealing posters real names so most of the members knew their identity. Rick revealed Agog’s real name and home address one night on the forum. Ooops! |
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Post by ChrisR on Dec 30, 2022 17:52:43 GMT -5
You can twist and turn with bizarre phrasing like that, but it doesn't change the fact that you do bully people. He may be pushy and accuse people of crazy, paranoid things, but nobody here is the least bit cowed by anything he says. lol I don't think bully is the right word. More like crazy and removed from reality. msims gets as much as he gives, probably more. lol Looking at his overall history mostly beyond this site. |
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Post by donkey on Dec 30, 2022 18:04:09 GMT -5
He may be pushy and accuse people of crazy, paranoid things, but nobody here is the least bit cowed by anything he says. lol I don't think bully is the right word. More like crazy and removed from reality. msims gets as much as he gives, probably more. lol Looking at his overall history mostly beyond this site. Oh, I'm not familiar with his other works. lol Just what he's said here. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Dec 30, 2022 20:14:46 GMT -5
Be sure to quote me saying that I underlined that you claimed and if/when you felt bullied and don't keep me waiting. I don't have all day and night like you. Seeing that you are constantly responding to us in here, you clearly do have all day. You bully people by constantly attacking them if they say just one little bit of criticism towards team Evancho. That's what he's done since day one, he was everywhere, bullying people in the comment section of every article if someone dared voice a negative opinion about Jackie. I don't think he got much sleep during the early years. Everyone who followed Jackie knew msims. BTW, is there a CliffsNotes available for his latest novel that he posted here? Good Grief! |
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Post by 1 Guest on Dec 30, 2022 20:47:50 GMT -5
Here is someone I came across at random while surfing Youtube - Lucy Thomas. I had never heard of her before. She is 18 and this was recorded 2 years ago when she was 16. She sounds as good as Jackie to me. I post about her not because I think she is exceptional. Exactly the opposite. She is simply one of many average professional singers that can be found at random on Youtube. Lucy sounds very good but she is no big deal. Jackie was exceptional because she was a young girl with an adult voice. But now, Jackie is a adult woman with an adult woman's voice. Not unusual any more. Thanks, I just listened to several of her videos and really enjoyed them. And she's almost as beautiful to look at as her voice is to listen to. |
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Post by richard on Dec 30, 2022 22:31:36 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Dec 30, 2022 23:03:24 GMT -5
Here is someone I came across at random while surfing Youtube - Lucy Thomas. I had never heard of her before. She is 18 and this was recorded 2 years ago when she was 16. She sounds as good as Jackie to me. I post about her not because I think she is exceptional. Exactly the opposite. She is simply one of many average professional singers that can be found at random on Youtube. Lucy sounds very good but she is no big deal. Jackie was exceptional because she was a young girl with an adult voice. But now, Jackie is a adult woman with an adult woman's voice. Not unusual any more. Thanks, I just listened to several of her videos and really enjoyed them. And she's almost as beautiful to look at as her voice is to listen to. Yes she has a lovely voice, now if she could just come up with an original she already as a decent size following.
Who knows how many more are out there that need that one big chance.
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Post by donkey on Dec 30, 2022 23:06:04 GMT -5
Thanks, I just listened to several of her videos and really enjoyed them. And she's almost as beautiful to look at as her voice is to listen to. Yes she has a lovely voice, now if she could just come up with an original she already as a decent size following.
Who knows how many more are out there that need that one big chance.
Quite a few, thus Jackie's dilema. |
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Post by donkey on Dec 30, 2022 23:09:12 GMT -5
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Post by Socal Fan on Dec 30, 2022 23:23:47 GMT -5
Oh, and successors? You walked into that, 'cause there's a literal one: Matteo Bocelli (Andrea's son). Matteo? How many hit songs has he sung? How many concerts has he headlined? How many gold or platinum albums has he released? How many awards has he won? A successor would be someone like Billie Eilish or Olivia Rodrigo who might be the next Taylor Swift or Adele. A successor needs to have demonstrated significant credible accomplishments. Riding on your father's coattails doesn't count. Matteo is nowhere in that league. Not yet, anyway, if ever. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Dec 30, 2022 23:39:14 GMT -5
I don't know why she was booked into a venue like this by her agent and by a pretty woke company and in venues that are mostly R&B, singer songwriter. It just backs up my theory that these venues were not in her demographic and not her typical theater venues where Jackie fans are used to attending.You're on the right track but you need to take your logic further. The question you now need to ask is: if City Wineries were not the right venues for Jackie, then why wasn't she in the right venues in the first place? And the answer is quite clear: the right venues didn't make her an acceptable offer. And apparently they still haven't made her an acceptable offer yet, which is why her dance card is empty as of now. That is where her career stands right now. |
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Post by BOGC on Dec 31, 2022 4:16:10 GMT -5
Oh, and successors? You walked into that, 'cause there's a literal one: Matteo Bocelli (Andrea's son). Matteo? How many hit songs has he sung? How many concerts has he headlined? How many gold or platinum albums has he released? How many awards has he won? A successor would be someone like Billie Eilish or Olivia Rodrigo who might be the next Taylor Swift or Adele. A successor needs to have demonstrated significant credible accomplishments. Riding on your father's coattails doesn't count. Matteo is nowhere in that league. Not yet, anyway, if ever. Accomplishment is NOT sales, views, or contemporary accolades. Accomplishment is (aside from what can be measured with lab instruments) what will be remembered in a couple of generations. That's seldom clear for anyone merely in their 20's or below, even if they have gained short-term fame. |
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A lot of the paranoia is you claiming that everyone is posting under everyone else's name, which is rarely the case.
