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Post by BOGC on Jun 15, 2023 3:59:47 GMT -5
If Jackie wants to come out with a new sound (?), as Melody place writes, it doesn't make sense to announce concerts for a tour right now. Names like "An Evening with Jackie Evancho" or "An Evening of Christmas Cheer with Jackie Evancho" sound very much like old men's program and offer nothing new. Jackie earns her money with it, that's all you can say about the concerts. For something booked as far in advance as the Spring, Texas concert, what they have for title and description is likely from a previous tour, and may change somewhat as it gets closer. But for those evil pop crazed psychos out there, unless someone really intends a total 180 forever, they don't just sing new material - they may not have enough, anyway. There is no escaping a few of the existing fan favorites, even if those scare off the young pagans who don't _want_ any civilizing influences. |
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Post by Franco Nero on Jun 15, 2023 4:21:06 GMT -5
It only makes sense if it fits together, if Jackie hits country or rock sounds on the next album, for example, it doesn't make sense to add any old songs. A crestive and sensible decision would be to go two ways. Once concerts for the former fans and a separate tour for the newer music. Hayley Griffiths, for example, does solo classical crossover and progressive rock with her band.
The Brave Collide with Cloe Agnew are also going on tour, why should they sing old material from Cloew. If Jackie wants to convince artistically and musically, she has to do it without her old "hits". Jackie has to go the hard way to achieve real success. If she doesn't, she'll never become an artist in her own right.
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 15, 2023 4:44:41 GMT -5
Nice postings about Grace, she’s got it going on! I think ..Liza Barlow…Abigail Barlow‘s little sister and her boyfriends? band are already classes better …her first ever concert… There is also another female musician in the ontheverge.la stories..with great talent.. These are only 2…but there many who have more talent in their little finger as all the AGT Graces, JE etc. combined.. I won't say whether or not Abigail's little sister has any talent but you couldn't see it in the 30 seconds of that video. Since Abigail Barlow has shown no indication of being able to match Jackie or Grace, I would think the same applies for her little sibling. I doubt anyone will be using terms like "pop prodigy" or "national treasure" for Liza anytime soon (or for Abigail either).
It is funny how you will down someone (Jackie or Grace) merely for appearing as unknowns on a TV show but have no moral issues with someone achieving notoriety by piggybacking on someone else's successful intellectual property by passing it as mere fan fiction and then trying to profit off said property without permission. Funny how you think an unknown agreeing to a TV for exposure is wrong but someone trying to steal intellectual property while lying about their intentions is just dandy. In the end, she had her ass handed to her and it effectively put an end to her status as spokesperson for wronged songwriters. There is this saying about glass houses and throwing stones that comes to mind ...
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Post by BOGC on Jun 15, 2023 4:48:56 GMT -5
Light classical or show tunes can coexist with light rock or country.
It's when you want to go full-on punk (or full-on Wagner, either) that there's a problem. And probably a law should be passed against punk, metal, acid, cRap, etc. Contributing to the deliniquency of minors might cover it. (there are doubtless one or two decent examples in just about any genre, but noise is noise; if you can't understand the words and wouldn't want to, and the volume risks hearing damage without protection, that's noise)
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 15, 2023 4:53:38 GMT -5
For something booked as far in advance as the Spring, Texas concert, what they have for title and description is likely from a previous tour, and may change somewhat as it gets closer. But for those evil pop crazed psychos out there, unless someone really intends a total 180 forever, they don't just sing new material - they may not have enough, anyway. There is no escaping a few of the existing fan favorites, even if those scare off the young pagans who don't _want_ any civilizing influences. If Jackie is planning a change it direction (which seems likely), then her set list would have some obvious adjustments. This does not mean she will never sing anything from prior albums. She certainly has done covers of popular songs on prior albums that would give a good basis for a show but then add the new material. It just would exclude the material that obviously does not fit in at all with the new direction.
That being said, I doubt the new material is totally off the wall and I don't expect punk rock, heavy metal or anything else extreme. The direction would be more that of popular music that would fit in with most people her age and up.
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 15, 2023 5:39:58 GMT -5
That songwriter camp seems like something Grace needed. One of her new songs is called "Boyfriends" which she said was actually inspired by one-sided relationships with girlfriends. One line goes, "You don't need me like I need you. If you'd ask, you'd hear." I think most people at some point have come to realize when a friend hasn't really been there for you. Entertainers have things in common with each other that they can't get elsewhere, and to have so many in the room like that has to be a lift for everyone there. One of the difficulties of being in the public eye is that there are people who will love you or hate you based on your status rather than who you are as a person. That is, you never know, except for a choice few, who your friends really are. When you were in the public eye as a child like Jackie or Grace, the sting is harder as they would be more trusting. It tends to drive people into depression (Jackie, Grace, Selena Gomez) or they develop a ruthlessness as a defense mechanism (Taylor Swift). |
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 15, 2023 6:02:03 GMT -5
Being a Jackie fan makes want to pull my hair out, and I can’t afford to lose anymore hair! There is room for optimism. Personally, I'm pretty upbeat about the next phase of her career. I think she finally has found someone in Greg Camp who is willing to allow Jackie to be part of the creative process and help her develop her ability. I don't think it is a coincidence that she has taken an interest in playing guitar at this juncture. This shows me she is excited about what is going on in the studio. I also think it significant that Greg Camp is pleased with the results. I hope she found her niche and can work with him in the future as I think she needs a few albums with a stable mentor in the studio. |
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Post by Franco Nero on Jun 15, 2023 6:03:28 GMT -5
Light classical or show tunes can coexist with light rock or country. It's when you want to go full-on punk (or full-on Wagner, either) that there's a problem. And probably a law should be passed against punk, metal, acid, cRap, etc. Contributing to the deliniquency of minors might cover it. (there are doubtless one or two decent examples in just about any genre, but noise is noise; if you can't understand the words and wouldn't want to, and the volume risks hearing damage without protection, that's noise) Of course, it all depends on what music the new album contains and how it is accepted at all. But first singing "some enchanted evening" and then an evening with songs about Jackie's mental problems, that doesn't really fit. |
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Post by BOGC on Jun 15, 2023 6:06:26 GMT -5
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 15, 2023 6:11:15 GMT -5
Light classical or show tunes can coexist with light rock or country. It's when you want to go full-on punk (or full-on Wagner, either) that there's a problem. And probably a law should be passed against punk, metal, acid, cRap, etc. Contributing to the deliniquency of minors might cover it. (there are doubtless one or two decent examples in just about any genre, but noise is noise; if you can't understand the words and wouldn't want to, and the volume risks hearing damage without protection, that's noise) Of course, it all depends on what music the new album contains and how it is accepted at all. But first singing "some enchanted evening" and then an evening with songs about Jackie's mental problems, that doesn't really fit. You never know. It depends on the delivery. A sardonically sung "Some Enchanted Evening" with Pink Floyd-esque atmospheric droning in the background might fit very well with songs about mental illness. |
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Post by BOGC on Jun 15, 2023 6:22:32 GMT -5
But first singing "some enchanted evening" and then an evening with songs about Jackie's mental problems, that doesn't really fit. "Awakening" had some classical and show tunes and light pop, but also had With or Without You, Memories (Within Temptation), My Immortal (Evanescence). All three of those were rather troubled (relationship, the painful gap between past and present, and a relationship with a ghost). It worked ok. You can't have a night of mental struggle songs (to the point of wrestling with monsters, if Jason Vorhees was indicative) and only other songs that fit too well with them, you'd have too many one-car accidents among those leaving afterward. |
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Post by Franco Nero on Jun 15, 2023 7:10:51 GMT -5
It all depends on what the new sound really means.
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Post by Colt46 on Jun 15, 2023 7:50:06 GMT -5
eulenspiegel only talent is bad mouthing Jackie and Grace! To bad you don’t just talk about singers that you like instead of attacking people!
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Post by Franco Nero on Jun 15, 2023 8:48:31 GMT -5
drew barrymore, brooke shields, Jackie evancho: What do they have in common?
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Post by Franco Nero on Jun 15, 2023 8:50:25 GMT -5
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