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Post by BOGC on Apr 29, 2022 17:30:49 GMT -5
So what is your point here? Do you work at being obtuse? Money (beyond modest comfort) and fame (at all) can be as destructive to people as poverty and isolation. Most of life is not on a stage or counting or spending $$, it's all the routine things that need to be done, and all the low-drama interactions between people. Indeed, fame often IS a form of isolation; who can you trust? I think Ray Lewis (whose homies along for a trip got in a fatal fight) later advised the newbies to disconnect from their friends for a year; and if they were understanding non-parasites when they reconnected, they were real friends, otherwise they NEVER had been. And that's with people one already knew. |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 17:50:58 GMT -5
Tate McRae is putting out a new song here is part of it. http://instagram.com/p/Cc81y9bpvEH Like the rest she is always so thrilled to come out with something new and even puts out little teasers for everyone. Tate can play the sexy part when she wants also, you can't be to out of shape and become the top junior dancer in North America. Jackie is so far behind the others in creating new music I doubt she could ever catch up. |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 17:59:49 GMT -5
So what is your point here? Do you work at being obtuse? Money (beyond modest comfort) and fame (at all) can be as destructive to people as poverty and isolation. Most of life is not on a stage or counting or spending $$, it's all the routine things that need to be done, and all the low-drama interactions between people. Indeed, fame often IS a form of isolation; who can you trust? I think Ray Lewis (whose homies along for a trip got in a fatal fight) later advised the newbies to disconnect from their friends for a year; and if they were understanding non-parasites when they reconnected, they were real friends, otherwise they NEVER had been. And that's with people one already knew. You can always find a case here and there to show your point. But what is a fact is money may not make you happy but a lack of money can make you quite miserable. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 29, 2022 19:43:33 GMT -5
And do something different with her hair! It's also so slicked down that it looks like it was painted on her scalp. in contrast to MZ...she does need no make up...but as she has Moroccan ancestors..   |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 29, 2022 19:50:57 GMT -5
Emily needs a growing fanbase on social media, if she wants the current momentum that she seems to have to continue moving forward.
The real irony, of course, is that the main success Emily has had and the only reason she was called upon to do the things she has done lately was because of the success of Bridgerton and the Grammy she achieved for it. So what exactly is Bridgerton? It is a TV show streaming on Netflix about the life of nineteenth century London debutantes that became extremely popular with teenage girls. Emily and Abigail Barlow wrote a musical based upon the TV show. And how did they get an audience for their musical? They started uploading performances of their songs for the proposed musical to TikTok - the favorite social media app of teenage girls and the one that made Charlie D'ameilo famous. So basically eulenspiegel is chastising others for doing what Emily herself is doing: fishing for an audience of teen girls on social media.
I am not knocking Emily for doing that as it is a very smart move. Emily is a young woman herself and would like to be reach a wide audience of her peers. It's human nature. She is probably a fan of the Bridgerton show given she knew enough to begin setting it to music accurately enough to satisfy other fans of the show. She then took her work to a social media platform that matched her target audience. All of this is very smart and shows she is getting the hang of marketing herself. But let's not pretend she is some saintly figure levitating above all the mere mortals and is only in it for only the art's sake. She went in whole hog to sell herself in the most obvious way possible. In other words, she did exactly what the D'amelios, Zieglers, and others have done. Sure, she is an artist and does excellent work but it is not as though she is pure and untouched by commercial concerns.
There are many...who did not even watched the series...but even if.. MZ is only posting this trash http://instagr.am/p/Cc52MocuJLL or 14yo teen stuff http://instagr.am/p/Ccd7zxdvMqR Her target group are 12-16yo girls...when they get older... there is really not any post with real content for years now...all things are made up, pimp, fake...nothing about real talent |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 19:51:59 GMT -5
in contrast to MZ...she does need no make up...but as she has Moroccan ancestors.. No Maddie doesn't need to wear makeup. |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 19:55:59 GMT -5
The real irony, of course, is that the main success Emily has had and the only reason she was called upon to do the things she has done lately was because of the success of Bridgerton and the Grammy she achieved for it. So what exactly is Bridgerton? It is a TV show streaming on Netflix about the life of nineteenth century London debutantes that became extremely popular with teenage girls. Emily and Abigail Barlow wrote a musical based upon the TV show. And how did they get an audience for their musical? They started uploading performances of their songs for the proposed musical to TikTok - the favorite social media app of teenage girls and the one that made Charlie D'ameilo famous. So basically eulenspiegel is chastising others for doing what Emily herself is doing: fishing for an audience of teen girls on social media. I am not knocking Emily for doing that as it is a very smart move. Emily is a young woman herself and would like to be reach a wide audience of her peers. It's human nature. She is probably a fan of the Bridgerton show given she knew enough to begin setting it to music accurately enough to satisfy other fans of the show. She then took her work to a social media platform that matched her target audience. All of this is very smart and shows she is getting the hang of marketing herself. But let's not pretend she is some saintly figure levitating above all the mere mortals and is only in it for only the art's sake. She went in whole hog to sell herself in the most obvious way possible. In other words, she did exactly what the D'amelios, Zieglers, and others have done. Sure, she is an artist and does excellent work but it is not as though she is pure and untouched by commercial concerns.
There are many...who did not even watched the series...but even if.. MZ is only posting this trash http://instagr.am/p/Cc52MocuJLL or 14yo teen stuff http://instagr.am/p/Ccd7zxdvMqR Her target group are 12-16yo girls...when they get older... there is really not any post with real content for years now...all things are made up, pimp, fake...nothing about real talent LOL something they all want and Jackie and Emily hasn't been able to achieve is to have an endorsement where you get paid just to advertise a product. May notice it says paid advertisement at the top. http://instagr.am/p/Cc52MocuJLL The second instagram is Maddie with her boyfriend Eddie Benjamin. Maddie has been following Eddie while he tours with Justin Bieber and they have double dated with Justin and his wife Hailey Bieber. http://instagr.am/p/Ccd7zxdvMqR Eddie is doing quite well he is opening for Justin Bieber's world tour they are good friends. http://instagr.am/p/CbqHLX0J42A www.grammy.com/news/eddie-benjamin-weatherman-interview-justin-bieber-tour-opener-justice-tiktok-debut-albumLooks like Eddie Benjamin and Tate MacRae will be working with some big names at a 90,000 capacity stadium. http://instagr.am/p/Cczo3eIMYO2 It's a joke to say her target group is 12-16yo. All her modeling has been for adult clothing lines that very few 12-16 year old could afford like Fendi www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/4629439/jordan-alexander-maddie-ziegler-fendi-event-italy-03/ You best stop with this Maddie Ziegler stuff as it seems you are just digging a bigger hole.
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2022 20:05:30 GMT -5
And do something different with her hair! It's also so slicked down that it looks like it was painted on her scalp. in contrast to MZ...she does need no make up...but as she has Moroccan ancestors.. Maybe she doesn't need it, but she wears it and she's wearing it in the picture. Blush, eye makeup and lipstick. |
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Post by Salzburg on Apr 29, 2022 22:17:59 GMT -5
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Post by Salzburg on Apr 29, 2022 23:00:37 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 23:11:23 GMT -5
Emily is a good looking girl but to say she doesn't use makeup is ridiculous. First off it would be stupid for a celebrity to say they don't use makeup as that would cut them from possibly getting a lucrative makeup deal in the future. The US recorded music industry generated USD $14.99 billion in 2021 The revenue of the U.S. cosmetic industry is estimated to amount to about 49.2 billion U.S. dollars in 2019
There is plenty of potential to make a lot in having a makeup line.
According to the study, the average woman spends about $313 per month on her appearance. This adds up to $3756 per year or $225,360 over the course of a lifetime.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 30, 2022 10:22:35 GMT -5
The real irony, of course, is that the main success Emily has had and the only reason she was called upon to do the things she has done lately was because of the success of Bridgerton and the Grammy she achieved for it. So what exactly is Bridgerton? It is a TV show streaming on Netflix about the life of nineteenth century London debutantes that became extremely popular with teenage girls. Emily and Abigail Barlow wrote a musical based upon the TV show. And how did they get an audience for their musical? They started uploading performances of their songs for the proposed musical to TikTok - the favorite social media app of teenage girls and the one that made Charlie D'ameilo famous. So basically eulenspiegel is chastising others for doing what Emily herself is doing: fishing for an audience of teen girls on social media.
I am not knocking Emily for doing that as it is a very smart move. Emily is a young woman herself and would like to be reach a wide audience of her peers. It's human nature. She is probably a fan of the Bridgerton show given she knew enough to begin setting it to music accurately enough to satisfy other fans of the show. She then took her work to a social media platform that matched her target audience. All of this is very smart and shows she is getting the hang of marketing herself. But let's not pretend she is some saintly figure levitating above all the mere mortals and is only in it for only the art's sake. She went in whole hog to sell herself in the most obvious way possible. In other words, she did exactly what the D'amelios, Zieglers, and others have done. Sure, she is an artist and does excellent work but it is not as though she is pure and untouched by commercial concerns.
There are many...who did not even watched the series...but even if.. MZ is only posting this trash http://instagr.am/p/Cc52MocuJLL or 14yo teen stuff http://instagr.am/p/Ccd7zxdvMqR Her target group are 12-16yo girls...when they get older... there is really not any post with real content for years now...all things are made up, pimp, fake...nothing about real talent
I am pretty sure those who listened to the soundtrack are almost entirely made up of people who watched the TikTok videos and those were primarily those who were fans of the series and those were primarily teenage girls. First off, Abigail Barlow has a larger fanbase than Emily and has had at least one single that did better than anything appearing in the Bridgerton soundtrack. Her audience has largely been girls in the teens to twenty-something age range. I don't know whose idea this was, but the two of them working together makes perfect sense: Abigail is far better at writing the hooks their target audience likes but she has no real experience with scoring, theater, etc. The latter, of course, is Emily's bread and butter. I remember looking at the streaming totals a few weeks after its release and the streaming totals had taken off like gangbusters ranging from 500k to a few million streams. If things had taken the same path as would most music with such a start, it would have ended up between 3-10 million streams for each song by now. Well, in reality we are many months later and the streaming rates have dropped off considerably and the totals actually range from 1.6 million to 6.7 million. Now those are amazing totals for a musical, but let's not kid ourselves: these were generated almost entirely by the fans of the TV show who watched the progress of the musical on TikTok along with some "theater kids" and listened in large numbers when it was first released. They heard the final product, listened mutiple times in the ensuing weeks and now heard it and gone back to listening to Olivia Rodrigo. Much like Sofia Carson, the popularity was due to the product - not the person performing it. Fortunately for Ms. Bear and Ms. Barlow, they can find a new project to work on to go from here. All Ms. Carson can do for the moment is reprise the same role.
As for Maddie, she seems to be aiming for fashion icon status at the moment. She was featured frequently during fashion week in New York and has since been aiming almost all of her efforts in that direction. I looked at at her Instagram and almost everything in recent weeks has been fashion related. The pics you pointed out were not aimed at 16 year old girls at all - they are the kinds of things you normally see for an actress or a model aiming for an audience of young women in their 20s. I don't see that much different in the types of shots on their Instagram between Maddie and Kaia Gerber (supermodel and daughter of former supermodel Cyndi Crawford) except the latter obviously has far more photo shoots for magazines. The photos you showed were a plug for makeup and a photo shoot with her boyfriend who is getting some attention in the music industry. The recent photos on Maddie's Instagram are a far cry from what she used to post only a year or so ago. If you cannot see the differences between those and what you see on her sister's Instagram (which is chock full of the goofy stuff you normally see on teenagers' posts), then I guess your Emily OTT biases are forming your judgments rather than what actually appears.
I am not a Maddie fan but she is working hard at transitioning from her big breaks with Dance Moms and Sia to a career that does not involve dance. It seemed she wanted to try acting (Richard can tell us if she still does) but now looks to have the fashion bug. Your Olsen Twins comparison might be the direction she is heading but you didn't realize the Olsen Twins are a power duo in the fashion industry. Another example is Lauren Conrad. She was a star on teen reality show but also was working hard learning the fashion industry. In the last decade and a half she has made many many millions of dollars with her clothing lines. Maybe Maddie has that in mind and is currently doing her best to network. Certainly she seems smart enough and hard working enough to pull it off.
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Post by richard on Apr 30, 2022 12:53:30 GMT -5
I am not a Maddie fan but she is working hard at transitioning from her big breaks with Dance Moms and Sia to a career that does not involve dance. It seemed she wanted to try acting (Richard can tell us if she still does) but now looks to have the fashion bug. Your Olsen Twins comparison might be the direction she is heading but you didn't realize the Olsen Twins are a power duo in the fashion industry. Another example is Lauren Conrad. She was a star on teen reality show but also was working hard learning the fashion industry. In the last decade and a half she has made many many millions of dollars with her clothing lines. Maybe Maddie has that in mind and is currently doing her best to network. Certainly she seems smart enough and hard working enough to pull it off. Yes Maddie is still acting, her last movie with Jenna Ortega "The Fallout" did very well. Eddie Benjamin recently said Maddie is filming now. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 30, 2022 13:32:58 GMT -5
I am not a Maddie fan but she is working hard at transitioning from her big breaks with Dance Moms and Sia to a career that does not involve dance. It seemed she wanted to try acting (Richard can tell us if she still does) but now looks to have the fashion bug. Your Olsen Twins comparison might be the direction she is heading MZ is doing exactly the right thing. She knows that dancers have no future so she is heading in a few new directions: (1) acting, (2) modeling/fashion and (3) marketing/influencer. She needs to do all 3 because there is no assurance of success in any of these ventures and she has to cover all her bases. Which is exactly the right thing to do. |
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Post by Grace Fan on Apr 30, 2022 14:39:00 GMT -5
Not sure where Grace is right now, but it doesn't look like her home down south. She seems to be in good spirits though and enjoying herself. Won't be long before she's super active again with her new movie and new music. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc_FFgOuHjN |
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