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Post by Yati on Nov 29, 2022 16:46:44 GMT -5
out of touch with reality. Just because someone has a different opinion that doesn't mean that you have to call them "cuckoo" and "out of touch with reality" for it. |
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Post by donkey on Nov 29, 2022 17:37:38 GMT -5
out of touch with reality. Just because someone has a different opinion that doesn't mean that you have to call them "cuckoo" and "out of touch with reality" for it. Yes, often it does. Some things are just objective truths, despite today's left trying to give everyone their "own truths". Predictions are more opinions, things that have already happened are more objective facts. Stats are facts, what caused those stats are often opinion. See the difference? Jackie's career and fan base declining over the years is fact. The causes of it are more opinion. Jackie's career to date is fact, what will happen to it in the future is opinion. One is based on objective, measurable and quantifiable facts...the other is based on conjecture and opinion-based prediction..although one can often make an educated guess based on trend lines. When you deny the measurable and quantifiable facts, that's when the cuckoo clock comes out. lol |
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Post by Yati on Nov 29, 2022 18:12:57 GMT -5
Just because someone has a different opinion that doesn't mean that you have to call them "cuckoo" and "out of touch with reality" for it. Yes, often it does. Some things are just objective truths, despite today's left trying to give everyone their "own truths". Predictions are more opinions, things that have already happened are more objective facts. Stats are facts, what caused those stats are often opinion. See the difference? Jackie's career and fan base declining over the years is fact. The causes of it are more opinion. Jackie's career to date is fact, what will happen to it in the future is opinion. One is based on objective, measurable and quantifiable facts...the other is based on conjecture and opinion-based prediction..although one can often make an educated guess based on trend lines. When you deny the measurable and quantifiable facts, that's when the cuckoo clock comes out. lol but still you don't have to call people names when they have different opinions. |
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Post by msims on Nov 29, 2022 18:24:46 GMT -5
Jackie's career and fan base declining over the years is fact. Purposefully lying and attempting to a con a fan when you know it isnt true is why you are a troll and not a fan. I saw this comment on Both Sides Now music video and I thought that it fits here: "One doesn't have to be a genius to know that haters used Thumbs Down in an attempt to discredit Jackie's videos. When it was active, any new video would immediately receive a lot of Thumbs Down then diminish as views increased and Thumbs Up surpassed them. It was an obvious gang attempt using different accounts to give the impression the video was unworthy of attention. About the same number each time. It's common knowledge among long-time fans and followers of Jackie on YouTube that haters and trolls use different user names (different accounts) when posting comments, sometimes making ignorant, false or ridiculous statements trying to discourage interest in her. Some unwittingly give themselves away and change their user names again when confronted." Wow, this is certainly eye opening for me. I never knew so many people hated Jackie. She must be one of the most hated people in showbiz. Your post would explain why Columbia, Masterworks and Melody Place fired her. And why her record sales and concert sales have plummeted. Do you have any idea why Jackie has aroused such widespread organized hatred? And whether her career has any chance of survival in the face of this onslaught? This is why the thread title is accurate. This is a gaslighting fraud scheme, with lie after lie. |
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Post by donkey on Nov 29, 2022 18:42:37 GMT -5
Jackie's career and fan base declining over the years is fact. Purposefully lying and attempting to a con a fan when you know it isnt true is why you are a troll and not a fan. Wow, this is certainly eye opening for me. I never knew so many people hated Jackie. She must be one of the most hated people in showbiz. Your post would explain why Columbia, Masterworks and Melody Place fired her. And why her record sales and concert sales have plummeted. Do you have any idea why Jackie has aroused such widespread organized hatred? And whether her career has any chance of survival in the face of this onslaught? This is why the thread title is accurate. This is a gaslighting fraud scheme, with lie after lie. No...not gaslighting....anything but gaslighting!!!! |
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Post by 1 Guest on Nov 29, 2022 18:50:03 GMT -5
Jackie's career and fan base declining over the years is fact.
Wow, this is certainly eye opening for me. I never knew so many people hated Jackie. She must be one of the most hated people in showbiz. Your post would explain why Columbia, Masterworks and Melody Place fired her. And why her record sales and concert sales have plummeted. Do you have any idea why Jackie has aroused such widespread organized hatred? And whether her career has any chance of survival in the face of this onslaught? This is why the thread title is accurate. This is a gaslighting fraud scheme, with lie after lie. So sims, you really don't see that Jackie's career and fan base have been declining over the years? Really? Come on, man, get real. |
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Post by donkey on Nov 29, 2022 19:01:53 GMT -5
Purposefully lying and attempting to a con a fan when you know it isnt true is why you are a troll and not a fan.
This is why the thread title is accurate. This is a gaslighting fraud scheme, with lie after lie. So sims, you really don't see that Jackie's career and fan base have been declining over the years? Really? Come on, man, get real. The real conversation should be why it is so and what might be done turn it around. When someone like msims can't even agree the baseline, demonstrable facts from which to then begin that conversation...it's like trying to reason with the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland...a complete waste of time. lol |
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Post by unknown on Dec 2, 2022 22:45:41 GMT -5
I found this comment on Jackie's "Burn" music video:
"Comments were turned off on many of Jackie's official videos simultaneously because of the ruthless onslaught of insults and ridiculous, demeaning accusations directed at Jackie and her supporters on her "River" video. It was a vicious anti-Jackie campaign that unfortunately went unnoticed for nearly two months until it was finally shut down. Many other comment sections were shut down as well to prevent it from spreading throughout her YT channel. To my knowledge, there has never been such a concerted effort by Jackie's haters, antagonists and detractors converging on one particular video (River) with the intention to vilify her with that kind of intensity and persistence. Certainly, never in the history of Jackie's career has there been a necessity to shut down the comment section on countless official videos all at once."
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Post by donkey on Dec 2, 2022 23:25:39 GMT -5
I found this comment on Jackie's "Burn" music video: "Comments were turned off on many of Jackie's official videos simultaneously because of the ruthless onslaught of insults and ridiculous, demeaning accusations directed at Jackie and her supporters on her "River" video. It was a vicious anti-Jackie campaign that unfortunately went unnoticed for nearly two months until it was finally shut down. Many other comment sections were shut down as well to prevent it from spreading throughout her YT channel. To my knowledge, there has never been such a concerted effort by Jackie's haters, antagonists and detractors converging on one particular video (River) with the intention to vilify her with that kind of intensity and persistence. Certainly, never in the history of Jackie's career has there been a necessity to shut down the comment section on countless official videos all at once." Wait wait wait...msims, I'm guessing this is you since this involves nonsensical delusional paranoia that likely bears no resemblance to reality. Vicious anti-Jackie campaign? Sounds organized and fictitious. lol I've never seen anything like that ever, save for perhaps the hate Jackie received from the left during the inauguration thing. Other than a couple trolls, Jackie always receives tons of love and support on her videos and social media...so I call bulllsh*t on your comments here. And by the way, who are you quoting here, yourself? What nonsense. |
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Post by unknown on Dec 2, 2022 23:31:18 GMT -5
Another comment from "Burn" music video about why comments were turned off for "River":
"Because someone and a few cohorts spammed the video with thousands of vile lies and false narratives using a dozen ghost accounts. Fans asked Mike to turn it off, sick of their psychotic attempts to smear the young artist with non sense."
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Post by richard on Dec 2, 2022 23:45:20 GMT -5
I found this comment on Jackie's "Burn" music video: "Comments were turned off on many of Jackie's official videos simultaneously because of the ruthless onslaught of insults and ridiculous, demeaning accusations directed at Jackie and her supporters on her "River" video. It was a vicious anti-Jackie campaign that unfortunately went unnoticed for nearly two months until it was finally shut down. Many other comment sections were shut down as well to prevent it from spreading throughout her YT channel. To my knowledge, there has never been such a concerted effort by Jackie's haters, antagonists and detractors converging on one particular video (River) with the intention to vilify her with that kind of intensity and persistence. Certainly, never in the history of Jackie's career has there been a necessity to shut down the comment section on countless official videos all at once." Nobody forced Jackie to turn off the comments sections and she got far fewer negative comments then many get that don't shut down their comments. This "woe is me! attitude" Jackie want to display is not working. People want to follow people that are excited in what they do and show extreme enthusiasm in what ever they are doing that is why Jackie only has 93.2 thousand instagram followers in 12 years and someone like Jenna Ortega can gain 9 million in a couple of weeks. |
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Post by donkey on Dec 3, 2022 0:53:54 GMT -5
Another comment from "Burn" music video about why comments were turned off for "River": "Because someone and a few cohorts spammed the video with thousands of vile lies and false narratives using a dozen ghost accounts. Fans asked Mike to turn it off, sick of their psychotic attempts to smear the young artist with non sense." Yawn |
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Post by Disappointed on Dec 3, 2022 0:58:25 GMT -5
I found this comment on Jackie's "Burn" music video: "Comments were turned off on many of Jackie's official videos simultaneously because of the ruthless onslaught of insults and ridiculous, demeaning accusations directed at Jackie and her supporters on her "River" video. It was a vicious anti-Jackie campaign that unfortunately went unnoticed for nearly two months until it was finally shut down. Many other comment sections were shut down as well to prevent it from spreading throughout her YT channel. To my knowledge, there has never been such a concerted effort by Jackie's haters, antagonists and detractors converging on one particular video (River) with the intention to vilify her with that kind of intensity and persistence. Certainly, never in the history of Jackie's career has there been a necessity to shut down the comment section on countless official videos all at once." Another comment from "Burn" music video about why comments were turned off for "River": "Because someone and a few cohorts spammed the video with thousands of vile lies and false narratives using a dozen ghost accounts. Fans asked Mike to turn it off, sick of their psychotic attempts to smear the young artist with non sense. |
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Post by Jackie Fan on Dec 3, 2022 3:00:28 GMT -5
Such utter bullish!t my god. Since the very first time I posted on the original Jackie fan forum, I was ATTACKED! (that was for you Colty) by Jackie's self-appointed knights in shining armour for pointing out a bad sound system at one of her concerts. I could name names, but you know who these f*ckers are. A goddamn SOUND SYSTEM, but I was a verrrry baaddd faaannn for saying aaannnnnyyyythhiiinnnnggg NEGATIVE. There's that word, "N" "E" "G" "A" "T" "I" "V" "E". One word those assholes don't like, and you're "negative."
Sing it with me!
Hear me now!
Sing alooonnnnnngggggg with the 5th Dimension now!
Hear me brothers and sisters.... rise UP! RISE UP! RRIIIISSSSEEEE UUUUPPPPPPP!
[Outro music: Aquarius/Let the Sun Shine]
[Interview overdub]
Producer: "So you would say your disgust with OTT's began early in your experience as a Jackie fan?"
Jackie Fan: "Yes. It was 2011, and I had just met a bunch of fans at a fan gathering. It was like a church service. Their eyes were glazed over like a bunch of jesus freaks at your front door. It was creepy as sh!t, let me tell you."
Producer: "Did you like the concert?"
Jackie Fan: "Sure. I was enamored with that voice. But I couldn't wait to get out of there, it was like being surrounded by a bunch of brown shirts."
Producer: "Isn't that a little extreme?"
Jackie Fan: "No man. No. Those f*ckers are whack. Hey, you wanna get a beer?"
Producer: "Sure, let's get out of here."
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Post by Colt46 on Dec 3, 2022 9:24:12 GMT -5
You are painting all Jackie fans with a broad brush, I think most fans are not over the stop and are respectful! You see what you want to see , that fans of Jackie are creepy!All performers have bad fans not just Jackie!
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