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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 14:22:40 GMT -5
You are always welcome to speculate, but do you have any real evidence to suggest that the anti-child faction is big enough to make a significant difference? After all, child acts have been a big part of showbiz from the beginning, with Jackie Coogan and Shirley Temple.
I'm judging from reading the comments on AGT's video posts. Whenever a kid's act looks like a contender and their video is posted, there is always a lot of comments about how kids have an unfair advantage because of the cuteness factor and shouldn't be in the contest, etc. There are a lot of complaints that the kids should only compete against each other in their own show similar as to how "The Voice" and "So You Think You Can Dance" had kids' versions. It is also reflected in this article:
Addendum: Statistical significance depends on the situation. If there is a one-sided contest where a kid act is clearly the favorite, then there is no significance. Similarly, if there is more than four contestants closely vying for the win, such a block of votes would be too divided to be significant. But if there is a close race between two or three, as is often the case, then those few percentage points could be the difference between winning and losing.
I would argue that there is also a segment of the AGT audience who would be MORE likely to vote for a cute, talented, charming kid than an adult...i.e. parents, grand parents, middle aged and older types. We all know that Jackie's base has always been made up largely of the 55+ age group.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 14:40:31 GMT -5
I would love to see the vote totals that each of the finalists received, you never see that in the history of AGT!
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Post by msims on Jul 19, 2023 15:40:01 GMT -5
This sums it better because most posters are so far off, its not worth correcting. But again I want to remind everyone: The most-watched episode has been the finale of season five (2010), with 16.41 million viewers. ‘America’s Got Talent’: Jackie Evancho loses to Michael Grimm but wins a duet with her idol www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/culture-monster-blog/story/2010-09-15/americas-got-talent-jackie-evancho-loses-to-michael-grimm-but-wins-a-duet-with-her-idolWe don’t usually watch infomercials unless Billy Mays or the SlapChop guy are involved but we made an exception Wednesday for the finale of this season’s “America’s Got Talent.” Stretched agonizingly over two hours, we endured random guest acts (the Goo Goo Dolls are still a thing?) ridiculously lame product placements and a number by the “AGT All-Stars” (read: rejects) to find out that soul singer Michael Grimm squeaked past fan favorite Jackie Evancho to snag the $1-million prize. But first came the most shameless advertisements -- the finalists’ duets. This was a chance for the Final Four to sing with their heroes, as long as their hero was tying to resuscitate a career or had a new disc to shill. Grimm looks up to Jewel? Seriously? It has been a long time since we have encountered a production so utterly pointless. NBC’s show is constantly being billed as live, as if crazy things could happen at anytime, but all the action is so tightly scripted that it is impossible not to suspect that every possibly spontaneous turn is designed to manipulate. Piers Morgan’s buzzing of Prince Poppycock on Tuesday night, for instance. (Poppycock was the first to go on the finale.) She might not have won, but Jackie did something on the show that no one else did: She was real. She was genuinely excited to meet Sarah Brightman and over the moon at being able to sing with her. Winning a contest is a worthy but abstract goal, especially for a child. Meeting a hero is tangible and it was a pleasure to watch Jackie realize that dream. In a previous post, Culture Monster poked fun at Jackie copying the “wandering hands mean I’m emoting” technique from the Brightman playbook but they were so sweet together our heart burst to only two sizes too small. Sensibly skipping the low-sitting triplet passage that marred her earlier performance of the song (“Time To Say Goodbye”) Evancho sung circles around her idol. The ensemble bits were mostly awful because, as is usual for sopranos, each had her own ideas regarding pitch. In the end we were so pleased with Jackie, it didn’t matter. While Twitter is ablaze with outrage over the results, in our opinion, America made the right choice. Grimm gets his Vegas show, his grandparents get their new house and Jackie will be free to pursue her career on her own terms. What left a bad taste in our mouths was the feeling that we were being held hostage by advertisements and promotional spots that took the focus away from the talent. The compelling nature of those less tightly scripted moments made the whole contest seem mawkish and tacky. What did you think? Was two hours too long? Would it have made a difference if the guest acts were actually entertaining or am I just a cranky blogger incapable of appreciating a good thing when I see it? -- Marcia Adair
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Post by Grace Fan on Jul 19, 2023 15:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by msims on Jul 19, 2023 16:48:14 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals Nope. It is up to the Producers, as far as the results and the song choices.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 16:50:11 GMT -5
Than the producers picked the wrong song!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 16:51:03 GMT -5
So the producers were setting up Jackie to lose!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 16:53:58 GMT -5
Grace Fan ,Thanks for the post about Grace !
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 19, 2023 17:00:22 GMT -5
So the producers were setting up Jackie to lose! You've figured it all out Colty! It was a giant conspiracy! You need to spearhead a class action lawsuit to correct this injustice. March yourself straight down to the law offices of Dewey, Cheetum & Howe. They will file the lawsuit for you.
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Post by Mmm Jesu Pie on Jul 19, 2023 17:01:51 GMT -5
A churchy song like Ave Maria was a poor contender for the prize. I would have voted for what's his name over what's her name.
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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 17:03:49 GMT -5
A churchy song like Ave Maria was a poor contender for the prize. I would have voted for what's his name over what's her name. I don't think the song selection had anything to do with the voting in the Final. Religion wasn't an issue at all. I'm not religious in the slightest and thought it was a great song selection. It's a beautiful song no matter what religion you do or don't belong to. That's kind of irrelevant.
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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 17:09:57 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals Nope. It is up to the Producers, as far as the results and the song choices. That's actually not true. I just looked it up. It's a joint decision by the producers and the contestants. I suspect the contestants pick the song they want to sing, and if the producers agree with it, it's a go. This make sense in Jackie's case as she was very familiar with singing Ave Maria. I suspect the producers always go with the contestant's choice except in unusual situations when they don't think it's appropriate for some reason. They want to maintain veto power for such circumstances.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 17:12:48 GMT -5
Leave it to msims to muddy the water 💧!
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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 17:13:28 GMT -5
So the producers were setting up Jackie to lose! Um, no. That's utter nonsense. Jackie likely selected the song because she was familiar with singing it, and the producers likely agreed with the choice. And she sang it great. Grimm won because he was hipper, singing a hipper genre, and had a great sob story which got him lots of sympathy.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 17:16:22 GMT -5
No not nonsense, it’s an opinion Donkey! I would not insult your opinion!
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