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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2024 21:50:15 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea what that lady said and why Jackie called her a greaseball? The only reason I didnt post this is I have no idea what it means. lol I think she's referring to herself. Her face and the top of her hair did look greasy but that must have been the look they were going for. And with that eye makeup they certainly weren't going for pretty. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2024 21:53:11 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea what that lady said and why Jackie called her a greaseball? The only reason I didnt post this is I have no idea what it means. lol Someone in the Youtube comments mentioned that "she's a greaseball" referenced Jackie in the scene with the origami birds. I'm glad that someone else thought she was referring to herself. |
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 29, 2024 22:24:50 GMT -5
Well, sims made it clear that he thinks creepy guys posting bedtime messages to Jackie is A-OK. First of all BME charted on the AC chart for weeks and its been in several tiktok videos. If the Team wants to call it a hit, you don't get to change that no matter how many guest names you create. You also fully know if you seen her in concert that she performs OMBC as an encore, so leave before the encore but you have no interest in going as I dont buy the phony Jackie fan act. You attacked her Parents for years and still do but Jackie never read Cait/Caz's friend who wrote that tucking in comment because they kept her away from stuff like that and you question why they were so protective/kept her off social media when comments like that were made. You never fully got it. Googling Jackie's current family home eluding to where its at as a guest and encouraging of supposed "inside scoop" where the info cant be verified. Its fine to shill for children who cuss generally and at fans/troubled, or lesbians but Jackie has the mental illness. Right right. The schtick is hypocritical. I just sang a short little song in the shower and called it a hit - therefore it is one. As I told you before, I hate Jackie Evancho and am definitely a phony fan. We don't disagree. Her parents deserve credit for getting Jackie started in the biz, but they have done a terrible job managing her career since then. It's obvious to everyone but you. I don't have a problem that Jackie herself was kept off social media as a kid, but someone in her "management" should have been growing her social media presence in the meantime. She admitted that she's is having trouble getting gigs now because she doesn't have enough social media followers. If you don't think she needs more followers, you want her to fail. I'm not quite sure who Caz is, but sure, if you want to believe that I'm Cait or Caz or one of their friends, yes I'm one or all of them - can't quite decide. Can you clarify what you meant in bold above, because it looks like nothing but ramblings of a misguided and confused person. |
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Post by Cait/Caz No. 9 on Apr 29, 2024 22:41:33 GMT -5
First of all BME charted on the AC chart for weeks and its been in several tiktok videos. If the Team wants to call it a hit, you don't get to change that no matter how many guest names you create. You also fully know if you seen her in concert that she performs OMBC as an encore, so leave before the encore but you have no interest in going as I dont buy the phony Jackie fan act. You attacked her Parents for years and still do but Jackie never read Cait/Caz's friend who wrote that tucking in comment because they kept her away from stuff like that and you question why they were so protective/kept her off social media when comments like that were made. You never fully got it. Googling Jackie's current family home eluding to where its at as a guest and encouraging of supposed "inside scoop" where the info cant be verified. Its fine to shill for children who cuss generally and at fans/troubled, or lesbians but Jackie has the mental illness. Right right. The schtick is hypocritical. I just sang a short little song in the shower and called it a hit - therefore it is one. As I told you before, I hate Jackie Evancho and am definitely a phony fan. We don't disagree. Her parents deserve credit for getting Jackie started in the biz, but they have done a terrible job managing her career since then. It's obvious to everyone but you. I don't have a problem that Jackie herself was kept off social media as a kid, but someone in her "management" should have been growing her social media presence in the meantime. She admitted that she's is having trouble getting gigs now because she doesn't have enough social media followers. If you don't think she needs more followers, you want her to fail. I'm not quite sure who Caz is, but sure, if you want to believe that I'm Cait or Caz or one of their friends, yes I'm one or all of them - can't quite decide. Can you clarify what you meant in bold above, because it looks like nothing but ramblings of a misguided and confused person. If he responds to something I've said it's usually only one part of his post, and the rest is a jumbled mix of responses to one or more other posters. He rolls several comments into one answer. It's hard to say if he actually believes there is one Cait, or one Caz, or one Cait/Caz, but it seems that way. Maybe it's easier to believe that there is just one devil in the eternal fight between good and evil. I see it as a debate between fact and fiction, but to each their own. |
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Post by BOGC on Apr 29, 2024 22:51:01 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea what that lady said and why Jackie called her a greaseball? The only reason I didnt post this is I have no idea what it means. lol It's very difficult to hear and it doesn't look like that lady was talking. Except for a couple of words, her lips were not moving. It sounds like the person talking is holding the camera. Since the video is titled "a rare bts moment from the #BehindMy Eyes shoot", one can assume that bts is a text slang. bts in texting slang is: BTS usually stands for be there soon. If you are texting BTS, it means that you are on your way to the specified location and will reach there shortly. In texting, BTS can also be used for slang such as better than sex, back to school, born to sing, born to scheme, between the sheets, and before the storm. One can only guess what bts is in this context stands for "be there soon" as though she is letting the woman know she will be on the set shortly. The other possibilty is that she used bts for "born to sing". Your guess is as good as mine. Behind the scenes. |
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Post by msims on Apr 29, 2024 22:53:52 GMT -5
First of all BME charted on the AC chart for weeks and its been in several tiktok videos. If the Team wants to call it a hit, you don't get to change that no matter how many guest names you create. You also fully know if you seen her in concert that she performs OMBC as an encore, so leave before the encore but you have no interest in going as I dont buy the phony Jackie fan act. You attacked her Parents for years and still do but Jackie never read Cait/Caz's friend who wrote that tucking in comment because they kept her away from stuff like that and you question why they were so protective/kept her off social media when comments like that were made. You never fully got it. Googling Jackie's current family home eluding to where its at as a guest and encouraging of supposed "inside scoop" where the info cant be verified. Its fine to shill for children who cuss generally and at fans/troubled, or lesbians but Jackie has the mental illness. Right right. The schtick is hypocritical. Can you clarify what you meant in bold above, because it looks like nothing but ramblings of a misguided and confused person. No, I already explained why you're a hypocrite with no credibility and you're the exact same person, you're not someone else, you just pretend to be. No one else knows about this place but yourself/all your personalities, Rickky, and a few fans including myself. Because you cannot do business with a minor child, M&L were involved on the business side of things but calling them managers is a bit of a stretch. Marc Johnston was more of a manager, he negotiated the pbs special, DWTS, Trump, etc. Lisa did not handle the forum right and she insulted Len, etc thats why many of her fans are on FB and not the forums, to answer Soc's post from a few days ago. ChrisR/one of your personalities thinks that I still care about something that happened back in 2015, dopey guy is all I can say. Ive said repeatedly with numbers that her social media has grown, ive also discussed strategies (so your comment about me not wanting her numbers to grow is another fail) and Sony were involved during the DWM era. The fact that they didnt hire someone, maybe they tried but it didnt work out. Who knows? But I give them the benefit of the doubt, eventually Jackie did get more involved. Those who grow their numbers did so because they were the self marketing type (they also show more assets) which Jackie is not or does not, the business changed and she had to get involved. As far as booking gigs: Celtic Woman shoots pbs specials and does tours, they have less instagram followers than Jackie, its also about how ones last tour performed but theres no last tour since 2019. So I don't know who gaslighted her but that person should be fired. Jackie should film a PBS Special because it would absolutely help albums sales, streams, and especially concert ticket sales and she could book a tour. However it would require either MP or Jackie putting up the funds. Its expensive. |
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 29, 2024 22:59:28 GMT -5
It's very difficult to hear and it doesn't look like that lady was talking. Except for a couple of words, her lips were not moving. It sounds like the person talking is holding the camera. Since the video is titled "a rare bts moment from the #BehindMy Eyes shoot", one can assume that bts is a text slang. bts in texting slang is: BTS usually stands for be there soon. If you are texting BTS, it means that you are on your way to the specified location and will reach there shortly. In texting, BTS can also be used for slang such as better than sex, back to school, born to sing, born to scheme, between the sheets, and before the storm. One can only guess what bts is in this context stands for "be there soon" as though she is letting the woman know she will be on the set shortly. The other possibilty is that she used bts for "born to sing". Your guess is as good as mine. Behind the scenes. Looks like you nailed it. |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2024 23:00:52 GMT -5
bts has always meant "Behind the scenes"
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 29, 2024 23:18:22 GMT -5
Can you clarify what you meant in bold above, because it looks like nothing but ramblings of a misguided and confused person. No, I already explained why you're a hypocrite with no credibility and you're the exact same person, you're not someone else, you just pretend to be. No one else knows about this place but yourself/all your personalities, Rickky, and a few fans including myself. Exactly, I am Chris, Ricky, Caz, Caitlyn, Donkey, johnnyb, Daniel, The Jackinator and a few other posters all rolled into one. I agree with you - I'm a hypocrite with no credibility, I'm the same exact person, but pretend to be all of these other bots to make your life miserable. It's my life's purpose and the very reason to wake up in the morning.
Because you cannot do business with a minor child, M&L were involved on the business side of things but calling them managers is a bit of a stretch. Marc Johnston was more of a manager, he negotiated the pbs special, DWTS, Trump, etc. Doing business on behalf of your daughter is called managing. Lisa did not handle the forum right and she insulted Len, etc thats why many of her fans are on FB and not the forums, to answer Soc's post from a few days ago. ChrisR/one of your personalities thinks that I still care about something that happened back in 2015, dopey guy is all I can say. Weird that you admit that Lisa didn't handle something right. Didn't you say she deserves the benefit of the doubt? She booted you for good reason. Ive said repeatedly with numbers that her social media has grown, ive also discussed strategies (so your comment about me not wanting her numbers to grow is another fail) and Sony were involved during the DWM era. The fact that they didnt hire someone, maybe they tried but it didnt work out. Who knows? But I give them the benefit of the doubt, eventually Jackie did get more involved. Those who grow their numbers did so because they were the self marketing type (they also show more assets) which Jackie is not or does not, the business changed and she had to get involved. Yes, Jackie eventually got involved, but you have been saying how well she is doing and how she's going to be rolling in the dough with concerts. The fact is that she can't book concerts because she has too few followers on social media. Everyone in the entertainment industry has to be the self-marketing type. The Evanchos deluded themselves by thinking they could coast all the way while living the high life in a mansion. As far as booking gigs: Celtic Woman shoots pbs specials and does tours, they have less instagram followers than Jackie, its also about how ones last tour performed but theres no last tour since 2019. So I don't know who gaslighted her but that person should be fired. Jackie should film a PBS Special because it would absolutely help albums sales, streams, and especially concert ticket sales and she could book a tour. However it would require either MP or Jackie putting up the funds. Its expensive. That would be nice, but PBS still has to break even. They likely would not consider her for a special right now, because she is largely unknown. |
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Post by msims on Apr 30, 2024 0:33:11 GMT -5
make your life miserable.
Doing business on behalf of your daughter is called managing. She booted you for good reason. The fact is that she can't book concerts because she has too few followers on social media. Everyone in the entertainment industry has to be the self-marketing type. The Evanchos deluded themselves by thinking they could coast all the way while living the high life in a mansion. That would be nice, but PBS still has to break even. They likely would not consider her for a special right now, because she is largely unknown. She does have followers, so I still don't know why you and Rickky carry on about followers, sure she made a comment about someone telling her yadda yadda. So? Then you post people with followers who when they sing it reminds me of the sound that a car made in front of my house when it crashed into multiple garbage cans and trashed its bumper, then the car stalled. Same thing. You said she wasnt marketed on social media so I said she should be marketed on pbs as the pbs demo is her audience demographic, its an older audience and of course they know her as shes been on pbs several times. She could also book concerts and in the markets where her dates are booked they could play the special she filmed, so thats good advertising and it will boost her ticket sales without a doubt. M&L werent making deals or anything that im aware of, Mike did later on but Lisa was no longer involved. Their job was basically to not let her be overworked at a young age. Her web site lists EON Management and PR Agency for international btw so their may be a foreign push. Certain people wanted Lisa's to go down just like amazon so they complained about me, similar to Alex Jones just the first domino. Admins don't need a good reason, there was no good reason to ban a good credible contributor but I don't care. It does shows a certain desperation in bringing that up over the years. But moving on is not your thing, you have to bring up something from 14 years ago that never actually made it to Jackie. Who cares? I think Jackie's done good marketing herself in interviews and in concert but being a social media personality or influencer, its just not her in wheelhouse. I don't think too many fans are disappointed only those who claim to be fans on here. As far as making me miserable, you have only made yourself miserable and why? You hate Jackie and yet you're here to read updates about her. Why put yourself through that? Why not move on? |
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Post by Fantasy Land on Apr 30, 2024 2:57:00 GMT -5
msims I've cautioned you against drunk posting, but never mind...
PBS specials don't happen just because someone spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to film a "PBS special" and then submits it to the network.
"Hey, let's film a PBS special. Sounds like a good idea! I wonder if PBS will buy it. Sure they'll buy it, it's Jackie Evancho! They'll whip out their checkbook and ask us to name our price! She's a platinum artist who sold three million units! Good idea, let's film a PBS special and sell it to PBS! Good idea! Yay!"
Yeah... uhmm... that's not how it works.
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 30, 2024 7:09:30 GMT -5
She does have followers, so I still don't know why you and Rickky carry on about followers She does have followers, but far short of what she needs for a successful pop career. And she knows it. Then you post people with followers who when they sing it reminds me of the sound that a car made in front of my house when it crashed into multiple garbage cans and trashed its bumper, then the car stalled. Same thing. Exactly the point I have been making for years. You don't need a great voice to achieve success, any decent voice will do. But you need songwriting and charisma. Which is why the greatest voice that has ever lived remains a virtual unknown. |
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 30, 2024 8:10:16 GMT -5
I am starting to get why they decided to give BME another go with the 2.0 version. While it does not have a "come out and grab you" hook, it does become a bit of an earworm with repeated listening. Also, while it is most likely about depression, it does not hit you over the head with it. If you were unfamiliar with Jackie's past, you could take the song a number of different ways and read your own preferred meaning into it.
Looking at the streams, after being dead a month ago, it is starting to pick up. I am counting both versions together since a search for the song name could give you either one or both. But together it totals close to 75,000 and picking up steam ever so slightly. I also noticed that five playlists have added the song in the last few days. They aren't the playlists with the largest audiences but that is unlikely until others add you. Still, just being on even a minor playlist can add streams. Playlists are the new radio stations and someone can get hundreds - even thousands - of streams a month just by being added to the right playlists. So she may get a slight jump in her numbers in the next few weeks.
Time to check in on how Jackie is doing streamwise. Twelve or so days ago, I mentioned that there had been an uptick (albeit slight at the time) and the combined versions of BME were at 75,000+ on Spotify. At the time, the original version had been at ~57,000 and the radio version (2.0) was ~18,000. Now the original version is at 58,000+ but the radio version has had a significant stream increase to 42,000+ (more than twice where it was 12 days ago). So now the total has jumped in 12 days from 75k to over 100k. BME2.0 is now the most streamed song of Jackie's in recent weeks ("To Believe" is #2 and her cover of "All of the Stars" is #3).
Now I am well aware that this may be nothing compared to the streaming numbers for Billie, Olivia, etc., but this is significant for Jackie in a genre where she is trying to get exposure. Right now, I would say she has actually begun to exceed my expectations for where I would expect her to be at this point in her transition. She has a single that is just starting to get traction and has some radio airplay. Let's see where this might go.
In the couple of days since I posted this, BME has added another 5,000 streams for BME 2.0 and another 1500 for a total of the two versions now standing at 112,000. So we can say in two weeks BME's combined streams have gone from 75,000 to 112,000 with an increase approaching 7,000 in the last two days. If things go as they do for most artists, the EP release should spark another jump since people will give a listen to the EP start to finish whose interest has been piqued by BME. BME 2.0 is currently Jackie's most popularly streamed song in the last few weeks.
Again, while these are not Taylor Swift numbers, they are the best you could reasonably expect given a genre change and the state of her career in the last few years. So, if Jackie can keep working at it, I don't see any reason she cannot carve out her own niche audience and have a sustainable career in a few years time. As I said, given the circumstances, you have to consider this as a new artists building an audience.
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Post by ChrisR on Apr 30, 2024 8:38:37 GMT -5
Wrong on every point including the Texas gaffe. Give specific reasons/examples why I was wrong on every point. |
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Post by ChrisR on Apr 30, 2024 8:43:55 GMT -5
Lisa did not handle the forum right and she insulted Len, etc thats why many of her fans are on FB and not the forums, to answer Soc's post from a few days ago. ChrisR/one of your personalities thinks that I still care about something that happened back in 2015, dopey guy is all I can say. You certainly seem to care what happened years ago because you like to bring up how well Jacke was doing during the early part of her career. Prove 100% that I'm one of Soc's personalities once and for all. So far you have failed rather poorly at that. |
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