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Post by The Jackinator on May 3, 2024 19:01:42 GMT -5
btw. Solla is boring..and as it seems you all are also not interested in.. as you are all discussing the same childish stuff ..as in the last years The worst part are the uninspired intros..followed by …music that puts you to sleep I like it quite a bit. Not bad for her first foray into original music. Your routine and anti-Jackie agenda is far more boring and predictable than Jackie's music. And if BME and Get Out of My Life puts you to sleep, you might just be dead...they are very up tempo and catchy tunes. lol But then, you like Collier, so there is no accounting for taste. ROFL If I want to bore myself to death, I'll become a member of the Jake Collier forum |
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Post by richard on May 3, 2024 19:04:07 GMT -5
I have 14 years of knowledge and perspective, ive always posted facts and I only deal in evidence, but one has to be able to prove it, not just give biased theories. Im aware of the cancellations in the past and they didnt want her taking on too much but they would cancel for any reason, those kinds of cancellations would have meant a reverse on ones credit card though. I dont think the event was sold out, it was barely advertised. I find it hard to believe though that this company would simply cancel because of a lack of interest, thats just weird. They could get into a bit of legal trouble for doing that, people would be out of thousands. It would be very scammy. That being said, that frees her up schedule up which is a good thing, btw its also possible they may reschedule. You don't understand business. What would be weird is if the company went ahead with the tour having only a small handful of patrons. The company is in business to make money and would cancel the event if it didn't get enough fans to join. It's obvious that Jackie's schedule is not too busy for her to go on the tour. Let's call a spade a spade It's the touring company's fault if it is canceled. They should have looked at her social media like other venues and they should have seen she doesn't have a large enough fan base for something like that. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 3, 2024 19:05:06 GMT -5
If she cancelled that trip because something better came up, then SHAME on her. An artist knows that the show must go on. Sickness is about the only legitimate excuse. People make travel plans and hotel reservations to even attend an ordinary concert, and it's something they're looking forward to or they wouldn't bother. Of course I don't believe for a minute that's the reason the trip was cancelled. I don't believe that Jackie would ever do that to her fans, and if you do then you think very little of her. Olivia Rodrigo canceled two sold out concerts at the 23,500-seat arena in the new Co-op Live arena in Manchester. But unlike Jackie she immediately apologized for it on her instagram and is trying to work with the venue to make it right for everyone that bought tickets and parking spaces. Seems the venue itself canceled on her when ventilation equipment started falling from the ceiling. That is 47,000 people that paid a minimum of $337 each that she will be losing from. Worst is Olivia will be the one they blame not the venue because of equipment falling from the ceiling.
With Jackie you get the impression that she doesn't ever owe anyone an explanation on why she cancels something.
We will be lucky to hear why her tour was canceled. If it is truly canceled we should already have heard something from her.
Olivia explained why the concerts were cancelled because it wasn't her fault, but when have you ever heard an artist say the concert was cancelled due to low ticket sales? Instead they'll say they were sick or just ignore it completely. |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 3, 2024 19:09:51 GMT -5
No this is not about Jackie Evancho..anymore… especially not about her music..for years now. 100% True!! So why don't you just go to a Jackie Evancho forum? Wait a minute ... there aren't any Jackie forums left. Not since the last Jackie fan died a few months ago. It is rumored that he died of boredom waiting for the release of Solla. |
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Post by msims on May 3, 2024 19:17:30 GMT -5
You don't understand business. What would be weird is if the company went ahead with the tour having only a small handful of patrons. The company is in business to make money and would cancel the event if it didn't get enough fans to join. It's obvious that Jackie's schedule is not too busy for her to go on the tour. Let's call a spade a spade It's the touring company's fault if it is canceled. They should have looked at her social media like other venues and they should have seen she doesn't have a large enough fan base for something like that. It was perfectly fine for those promoters before the pandemic. |
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Post by BOGC on May 3, 2024 19:33:01 GMT -5
You're right, she doesn't have 2 audiences. She has her old audience made up of seniors, the other audience is younger people that she's trying to reach. The problem is that most of the seniors don't like her new music. They're not all dying off, they're just turned off by what she's singing. Consequences and How Great Thou Art together just doesn't cut it. If Consequences was the one that had one instance of "sh_t" in it, I recall that being replaced by I think "stuff" in a live performance, which dials it back just enough to deal with not only existing fan sensibilities but variable locale sensitivities, which are more variable than you think; what will not raise an eyebrow in 54/Below definitely would at a family venue like the Ocean City NJ Music Pier and various other conservative communities or venues. I may like some of the Solla tracks more than others, but I'd listen to any of them a lot more than once, and that holds for most of her albums. (I cringe a bit at any song using any of Carlin's words, even if it's a male (like "f-d up family" in James Taylor's Enough To Be On Your Way, which I otherwise like very much), although I'll admit to a bit more cringe if it's a female. There are brief and occasional contexts when some of those words are actually appropriate for anyone male or female old enough to have at least a clear theoretical understanding of what they mean and might imply as used, but IMO those moments are very very rare, and they're far more effective if one has a reputation for only using them very very rarely.) |
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Post by donkey on May 3, 2024 19:35:20 GMT -5
You're right, she doesn't have 2 audiences. She has her old audience made up of seniors, the other audience is younger people that she's trying to reach. The problem is that most of the seniors don't like her new music. They're not all dying off, they're just turned off by what she's singing. Consequences and How Great Thou Art together just doesn't cut it. If Consequences was the one that had one instance of "sh_t" in it, I recall that being replaced by I think "stuff" in a live performance, which dials it back just enough to deal with not only existing fan sensibilities but variable locale sensitivities, which are more variable than you think; what will not raise an eyebrow in 54/Below definitely would at a family venue like the Ocean City NJ Music Pier and various other conservative communities or venues. I may like some of the Solla tracks more than others, but I'd listen to any of them a lot more than once, and that holds for most of her albums. She says "sh*" once in two songs, but you are right, she can dial that word down for live performances...thats not uncommon to do. And I like some tracks more than othets in any album I've ever heard....so that's normal, eh? lol |
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Post by donkey on May 3, 2024 19:37:29 GMT -5
You don't understand business. What would be weird is if the company went ahead with the tour having only a small handful of patrons. The company is in business to make money and would cancel the event if it didn't get enough fans to join. It's obvious that Jackie's schedule is not too busy for her to go on the tour. Let's call a spade a spade It's the touring company's fault if it is canceled. They should have looked at her social media like other venues and they should have seen she doesn't have a large enough fan base for something like that. Hey, they have it a shot and it didnt work out. Not uncommon to cancel events due to low sales. Same thing happened at 54 below in the fall of 2022. |
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Post by BOGC on May 3, 2024 19:47:11 GMT -5
It's the touring company's fault if it is canceled. They should have looked at her social media like other venues and they should have seen she doesn't have a large enough fan base for something like that. Hey, they have it a shot and it didnt work out. Not uncommon to cancel events due to low sales. Same thing happened at 54 below in the fall of 2022. Although the logistics for a trip like that are much greater, so that while low sales is the likeliest explanation (and one rarely acknowledged by anyone), various other explanations are possible too. |
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Post by msims on May 3, 2024 20:07:28 GMT -5
Hey, they have it a shot and it didnt work out. Not uncommon to cancel events due to low sales. Same thing happened at 54 below in the fall of 2022. Although the logistics for a trip like that are much greater, so that while low sales is the likeliest explanation (and one rarely acknowledged by anyone), various other explanations are possible too. Its interesting if you read that link and under cancellation, it mentions 120 days before departure, May to Sep is 120 days plus. Ive been in arenas where the artists performed to 2,000 or less and the capacity is between 11,000 to 18,000 so I think rarely its about ticket sales, I think theres more to it but ive reached out so I hope I get a response. To me the most likely explanation, (italy) she got an offer she couldn't refuse. So something else may happen, perhaps AGT or other tv, or concert wise.  However she was still advertising it just a few months ago (so something changed I think): https://www.instagram.com/p/C4BKXkuuw8Z |
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Post by ⭐ on May 3, 2024 20:15:28 GMT -5
ive reached out so I hope I get a response. You emailed Craft Tours? |
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Post by The Jackinator on May 3, 2024 20:16:30 GMT -5
Although the logistics for a trip like that are much greater, so that while low sales is the likeliest explanation (and one rarely acknowledged by anyone), various other explanations are possible too. Its interesting if you read that link and under cancellation, it mentions 120 days before departure, May to Sep is 120 days plus. Ive been in arenas where the artists performed to 2,000 or less and the capacity is between 11,000 to 18,000 so I think rarely its about ticket sales, I think theres more to it but ive reached out so I hope I get a response. To me the most likely explanation, (italy) she got an offer she couldn't refuse. So something else may happen, perhaps AGT or other tv, or concert wise. However she was still advertising it just a few months ago (so something changed I think): https://www.instagram.com/p/C4BKXkuuw8Z The offer she likely got was a free trip for daddy and herself, plus some $$$ depending on the number of people on the tour. |
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Post by 🎵 on May 3, 2024 20:27:32 GMT -5
So why don't you just go to a Jackie Evancho forum? Wait a minute ... there aren't any Jackie forums left. Not since the last Jackie fan died a few months ago. It is rumored that he died of boredom waiting for the release of Solla. Getting so defensive about it, aww did eulenspiegel hurt your little feelings? Not a good look for you. LOL!!! |
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Post by The Jackinator on May 3, 2024 20:28:18 GMT -5
Although the logistics for a trip like that are much greater, so that while low sales is the likeliest explanation (and one rarely acknowledged by anyone), various other explanations are possible too. Its interesting if you read that link and under cancellation, it mentions 120 days before departure, May to Sep is 120 days plus. Ive been in arenas where the artists performed to 2,000 or less and the capacity is between 11,000 to 18,000 so I think rarely its about ticket sales, I think theres more to it but ive reached out so I hope I get a response. To me the most likely explanation, (italy) she got an offer she couldn't refuse. So something else may happen, perhaps AGT or other tv, or concert wise. However she was still advertising it just a few months ago (so something changed I think): https://www.instagram.com/p/C4BKXkuuw8Z The mention of 120 days days is geared to whether the customer cancelled: -If for any reason your reservation is canceled before the final payment date (120 days before tour departure), you will be assessed an administrative fee of $100 per person. -On or after the final payment date, full 100% penalties apply, no refund will be paid on your reservation. There are different terms if Craft Tours cancels: -Craftours will cancel all tours that are related to natural disasters, coronavirus, terrorism, or any other unforeseen circumstances where we feel it is unsafe for our guests to travel. In the event this occurs, Craftours will not be responsible for any refunds, however we will do our best to reschedule the same tour on a different date in the future. I could not find the cancellation policy related to low numbers joining the tour, but the language seems to lean towards a rescheduled date (not sure about that) |
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Post by msims on May 3, 2024 20:49:13 GMT -5
ive reached out so I hope I get a response. You emailed Craft Tours? On Instagram. |
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