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Post by donkey on Jul 5, 2024 13:03:38 GMT -5
You quoted me as having said that Jackie said Solla is not CC. However her concerts contain a mix of material and certain songs mean different vocal styles. CC is not just one vocal style, when Bocelli sings pop he drops his classical technique. You want a concert with just the Solla material but thats IF she can and wants to get that kind of gig. It would be easier to make money and record an album of Christmas covers and originals though. Or she performs to small venues with 100 capacity, either way its not about my expectations, its about Jackie's. Shes constantly being compared down to those who havent sold a million copies or those who have sold a million or two or so. Typically by a Rickky who ignores the fact that she did nearly 200 gigs. She also lists platinum singer on the description of her instagram. If its fair to lie, then its fair to correct. Another lie: Its constant lies. Rickky lied because her Mother did encourage her to write originals and made an infamous rant about it, here. What Rickky doesn't get (and most do not because they were not here in the original days) is that Mike, Lisa, and Jackie were a Team. There was no Jackie without her Parents getting involved in her auditioning for AGT and without their approvals, there was no AGT or platinum. So it was a family business. Jackie helped the careers of alot of people and just a few days ago she was brought up in an article. https://www.instagram.com/washwildthings/p/C9AW7FVMgKW msims: Jackie's career is history I can't see why you can't face the facts. Jackie should have had enough friends and family member to fill 54 Below, hell it only has a 147 capacity. Lets see Jackie get a venue that is not supplemented and see how she does like the Well Forgo Center in her home state or Madison Square Gardens. This is BS Jackie singing at tiny clubs and you blowing it up as if it is something special. Clubs like 54 Below and some of the Wineries have people that are locals and nobody knows of them.
Not entirely. I got this nice comment today on YT for the live feed video upload I posted, for instance. She still has adoring fans out there. Not sure why she doesn't go down to the sunbelt and hit some of the older communities, like The Villages in FL for instance. "Thank you, so much, for sharing your excellent captures of the livestream! Even though Jen and I were blessed to be sitting just a few feet directly in front of Jackie, for both shows, it’s been wonderful to be able to revisit these select portions of the show, here! And, the audio/video quality is far superior to anything that I was able to capture, on my own. Jackie was absolutely spectacular with each performance, including her wonderful anecdotal comments between each one, and was also extremely accommodating to spending time with each of us, post show, for photos, autographs and light conversation. She truly is an earthly angel!"
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Post by colt46 on Jul 5, 2024 14:21:07 GMT -5
That what I say , Jackie should go to the sun belt to perform, besides her Christmas concerts, how about a Christmas show with a full orchestra that would be something to see! Some here don’t understand Jackie’s appeal!
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 5, 2024 14:43:53 GMT -5
You quoted me as having said that Jackie said Solla is not CC. However her concerts contain a mix of material and certain songs mean different vocal styles. CC is not just one vocal style, when Bocelli sings pop he drops his classical technique. You want a concert with just the Solla material but thats IF she can and wants to get that kind of gig. It would be easier to make money and record an album of Christmas covers and originals though. Or she performs to small venues with 100 capacity, either way its not about my expectations, its about Jackie's. I don't recall specifically posting that but maybe I misunderstood something you wrote. I don't really see how anyone can listen to Solla and seriously claim it is CC, but if you can, more power to you, I guess... For those of us for whom genre labels actually have meaning, we'll disagree.
I never asked for a concert with just Solla material since that would be a bit on the short side. I understand why, in a solo concert, she would have to sing her CC favorites, but I think if she wants to build a fanbase in a genre with a future, she should do what she can to get a role as an opener. That way, she has an "out" for not performing songs not in genre for the concert without offending people - provided she lets everyone know beforehand. She could still give solo concerts with the old tunes as solo shows but she needs to prioritize getting a new fanbase before the old one dies out. Aside from the Solla tunes, she could also sing some pop covers she had done in the past on Awakening and Two Hearts that would fit in as well as covers of other pop songs she likes and as yet unreleased originals to try them out.
Shes constantly being compared down to those who havent sold a million copies or those who have sold a million or two or so. Typically by a Rickky who ignores the fact that she did nearly 200 gigs. She also lists platinum singer on the description of her instagram. If its fair to lie, then its fair to correct.
If we are comparing her to anyone, it should be to people in her current situation. That would be young female singers who are striving to find and/or maintain a niche in the current marketplace. I think comparing her to Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish, Taylor Swift, etc. in the current stages of their careers is pointless and have said so. If you compare her to anyone, it would be to others with their own little place in the market. Then you can argue if what they have done or are doing is applicable to Jackie's situation.
Personally, it doesn't bother me if she puts platinum artist on her IG. In the argument over whether her platinum record was legit, my opinion is if she didn't break the rules, then it's legit. The RIAA knew those videos were on the album and, if they don't care, then I don't either. I could go back and point out lots of instances when shady stuff went on with platinum awards by major artists that were a lot more questionable than Jackie's CD. Those arguing otherwise ignored the constant releasing of multiple "collectors editions" of albums with different covers and colored CDs knowing their "superfans" will buy all versions of it and artificially boost their sales. This is not something invented by the Evanchos or their label.
That being said, my point is that you can't assume past success means current success. I'm not saying that you can no longer say she is not a platinum selling artist. What I am saying is that title does not reflect her current level of popularity. It doesn't make the title wrong - it just makes it irrelevant to her current situation. Conversely, those saying she can no longer sell tens of hundreds of thousands of albums in the present means she couldn't do it in the past are equally wrong. it is just anachronistic.
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 5, 2024 14:49:52 GMT -5
That’s a little harsh but IMO some of those songs should never be sung in a bar and especially without the backing of an orchestra. I'd love to see her do more shows with an orchestra...I'd be all over that.
If you are willing to pay for the orchestra and venue, I'm sure something could be arranged.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 5, 2024 14:54:46 GMT -5
I'd love to see her do more shows with an orchestra...I'd be all over that.
If you are willing to pay for the orchestra and venue, I'm sure something could be arranged. Maybe Uncle Len and Airport Joe could pony up the fee, I’d even kick in a few bucks. 😁
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 5, 2024 15:24:16 GMT -5
I think if she wants to build a fanbase in a genre with a future, she should do what she can to get a role as an opener. I strongly suspect that Jackie's handlers have left no stone unturned in seeking concert gigs for her. So the reason she doesn't have a gig as an opening act is not that she hasn't looked but that she has not been able to find such a role.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 5, 2024 16:28:42 GMT -5
START A GO FUND ME ORCHESTRA FUND FOF JACKIE EVANCHO!
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Post by donkey on Jul 5, 2024 17:04:21 GMT -5
If you are willing to pay for the orchestra and venue, I'm sure something could be arranged. Maybe Uncle Len and Airport Joe could pony up the fee, I’d even kick in a few bucks. 😁 Me too! I'll contribute, Jackie, if you are listening. lol
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Post by Opening Act For on Jul 5, 2024 17:22:38 GMT -5
What band is going to want an opening act who sings the lords prayer and how great thou art. She could open up for a gospel country act in Joplin Missouri, but that's about it. Forget touring, sit down at the kitchen table and write some songs.
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Post by richard on Jul 5, 2024 17:39:22 GMT -5
"Thank you, so much, for sharing your excellent captures of the livestream! Even though Jen and I were blessed to be sitting just a few feet directly in front of Jackie, for both shows, it’s been wonderful to be able to revisit these select portions of the show, here! And, the audio/video quality is far superior to anything that I was able to capture, on my own. Jackie was absolutely spectacular with each performance, including her wonderful anecdotal comments between each one, and was also extremely accommodating to spending time with each of us, post show, for photos, autographs and light conversation. She truly is an earthly angel!" I thought all those fans of Jackie who really thought she was and angel sent from God were gone. Looks like Jackie really need her wrecking ball moment.
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 5, 2024 19:09:15 GMT -5
"Thank you, so much, for sharing your excellent captures of the livestream! Even though Jen and I were blessed to be sitting just a few feet directly in front of Jackie, for both shows, it’s been wonderful to be able to revisit these select portions of the show, here! And, the audio/video quality is far superior to anything that I was able to capture, on my own. Jackie was absolutely spectacular with each performance, including her wonderful anecdotal comments between each one, and was also extremely accommodating to spending time with each of us, post show, for photos, autographs and light conversation. She truly is an earthly angel!" I thought all those fans of Jackie who really thought she was and angel sent from God were gone... I would be a case of burgers that was written by either Airport Joe or Lenny Bigbucks. Very likely Airport Joe. They will be around forever, until the day they are buried in little red dresses.
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 5, 2024 19:12:02 GMT -5
I thought all those fans of Jackie who really thought she was and angel sent from God were gone... I would be a case of burgers that was written by either Airport Joe or Lenny Bigbucks. Very likely Airport Joe. They will be around forever, until the day they are buried in little red dresses. That should read "bet" a case of burgers, but I would "be" a case of burgers if I was in the woods behind psycho-eyed Jackie in that bloody horror movie forum header. LOL.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 5, 2024 19:36:16 GMT -5
psycho-eyed Jackie in that bloody horror movie forum header Aww ... I think Jackie looks cute in that fishnet top.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 5, 2024 19:37:38 GMT -5
I would be a case of burgers that was written by either Airport Joe or Lenny Bigbucks. Very likely Airport Joe. They will be around forever, until the day they are buried in little red dresses. That should read "bet" a case of burgers, but I would "be" a case of burgers if I was in the woods behind psycho-eyed Jackie in that bloody horror movie forum header. LOL. Yes, that header is pretty awful.
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Post by BR549 on Jul 5, 2024 21:47:12 GMT -5
I would bet a case of burgers that was written by either Airport Joe or Lenny Bigbucks. Very likely Airport Joe. They will be around forever, until the day they are buried in little red dresses. You're right - the comment was written by "Uncle Len" (the same fan Lisa publicly humiliated after the Steelers football game). I don't know why donkey didn't want to tell us who wrote it. By the way, the numbers of likes and comments on his video of Jackie live stream excerpts is pretty sad. LOL!
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