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Post by Guest 5 on Apr 21, 2020 9:20:12 GMT -5
don't forget Chinese made cell phones, smart tvs, ect., ect., And then there is the matter of Hillary's illegal server's direct link to Chinese intelligence, Feinstein's Chinese spy partner of 20 years, Obama's gang of Muslin Brotherhood spies he placed in areas handling our MOST secret data, for a start. Many things are at least partly "Chinese made", but if it's a non-Chinese company that owns AND exercises close control over manufacturing, it's probably ok* in terms of security. So, Apple or probably Samsung products made or assembled partly in China, ok, but the Chinese owned brand Huawei (makes phones but worse, routers and such) not so ok. The US government refuses to use Huawei communications products, presumably for good reason. You forgot software, not to mention critical manufacturing bought by China. The Opera browser originated in I think one of the Scandinavian countries, and it was pretty good. In some cases, it used a server in the middle for image re-compression or the like, which speeded up page loading if slightly at the expense of image quality. But a Chinese company bought Opera. And even if Opera's original use of a server in the middle wasn't a security problem, one can imagine that the Chinese would be tempted to take advantage. More recently, China is trying to buy one of the UK's formerly major (but financially troubled) steel producers. The Hillary server thing was BAD, and there's no knowing who might have hacked it. But even a Republican Senate committee investigating found no proof that any specific country had hacked it...although it was bad enough that there was no way to be sure they hadn't, either. The more likely (but not provably since she deleted so much) bad part was that she was probably selling us to the highest bidder, and had that server for commingling official business with donations to the Clinton Foundation, which, although it did a bit of charity, was mostly money laundering for the Clintons (who could claim huge expenses against the Foundation). Heck, politicians that never had anything but government salaries manage to get rich, you have to figure they're getting millions from someone else, not always a foreign power, but corrupt. (another reason some are crazy about one that was rich long before being elected; someone that doesn't need that kind of dirt on them puts all the dirty ones at risk) This makes it sound as though there is a difference between the parties when in reality, the US has a uniparty - the welfare/warfare party. Republicans are only slightly less evil in that they don't openly promote the murder of babies, however, they generally have no problem killing people who are already alive through warfare. I'm fairly certain the R's really didn't look too hard when it came to Hillary's abuse of her server. Most of the televised Congressional hearings are just political theater. Think of all the hoopla that Trey Gowdy stirred up with no consequences to show for it.
The US federal mafia government needs to be dismantled.
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Post by BOGC on Apr 21, 2020 10:37:41 GMT -5
This makes it sound as though there is a difference between the parties when in reality, the US has a uniparty - the welfare/warfare party. Republicans are only slightly less evil in that they don't openly promote the murder of babies, however, they generally have no problem killing people who are already alive through warfare. You acknowledge SOME difference. There's also considerable difference among individuals in both parties (although the Democrats have gone so far left that those among them that haven't are few and limited). Given the way politics works, there's the constant pressure toward a uniformly corrupt bunch of Demopublicans or Republicrats, but while you can't tell good from bad just by the first letter, we aren't really there yet. And while the federal government is WAY too powerful, that's not to say that the states are always good guys. The southern states ruined it for everyone with their segregation and worse after the Civil War, such that the 14th Amendment has since been used to diminish the 10th. And corruption is probably even more commonplace at the state level than the federal level. I have near 50% sympathy for libertarian views, but ONLY inside our borders. From the borders out, my only concern with the lives of adversaries and their subjects, willing or unwilling, is that we ALWAYS massively underestimate the blood, treasure, and blowback involved in eliminating adversaries (maybe we also misrepresent some as adversaries for reasons other than national security, but that's not relevant to my point). I acknowledge the full humanity of all people, but if they're adversaries or affiliated with adversaries, their continued existence is not my concern; indeed, it's a bit annoying that they don't all just have the courtesy to either stop being adversaries, or stop being. George Washington's "avoid foreign entanglements" advice is IMO not about being good and moral humanitarians, it's about the pragmatism of not getting in over our heads.
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Post by Kanye East on Apr 21, 2020 12:17:36 GMT -5
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 21, 2020 14:08:26 GMT -5
don't forget Chinese made cell phones, smart tvs, ect., ect., And then there is the matter of Hillary's illegal server's direct link to Chinese intelligence, Feinstein's Chinese spy partner of 20 years, Obama's gang of Muslin Brotherhood spies he placed in areas handling our MOST secret data, for a start. No proof IMO that they were spies, I really am beginning to think Chinese have turned you.
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Post by BOGC on Apr 21, 2020 14:28:29 GMT -5
No proof IMO that they were spies, I really am beginning to think Chinese have turned you. <sarcasm> Too bad </sarcasm> it's not allowed for you and like-minded people to just lynch everyone you're convinced is bad. It's one thing to say someone should never have been put into a trusted position, and quite another to say they must be guilty of something. You seem to think it'd be ok to skip the trial. It'd be cosmic justice/karma/whatever if someone skips your trial, seems the only way you'd learn...just like the only way some bad guys (communists, globalists, whatever the label) change into good guys is when they become worm food. edit: how about complaining about something real? Working conditions in the Smithfield meat plant in South Dakota are horrible, most of the workers are recent immigrants (80 different languages)...and a Chinese company bought Smithfield a few years ago. Coincidence? A meat packing plant is never a nice place, but a Chinese owned company abusing its employees is not unusual either.
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Post by Guest 5 on Apr 21, 2020 14:56:15 GMT -5
No proof IMO that they were spies, I really am beginning to think Chinese have turned you. Back in the hood:
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Post by Guest 5 on Apr 21, 2020 14:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 23, 2020 15:47:20 GMT -5
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