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Post by I Need A Drink on May 31, 2020 21:46:12 GMT -5
There is wide speculation about whether vandalism and looting is being seeded by agents provocateurs, and about who they might be and why. Depending on what point of view you're looking for, you can hear shouts of "police unions!" or "Soros!" or "Anarchists!" or "Stephen Miller!" or "Obama!" or "right-wing militias!" or "Antifa" or "adrenaline seekers!" or "it's a sign of the end times!" or "" or "" or "" or ""...
It's hard to have a sober conversation about this stuff if everyone is distracted by their own biases and agendas. Just be aware that people are always trying to steer the conversation in their direction or away from something else. Don't get caught up in believing something just because it sounds good to your ears. It may sound just as good to the guy across the street who sees it in the exact opposite way as you. Maybe you're both right. Maybe all of the above are standing side by side while they throw bricks in windows. Ask yourself why on behalf of every group, and then ask yourself what each of them might be trying to distract you from. That's where the conversation should start – with questions, not easy answers.
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Post by I Need A Drink on May 31, 2020 23:50:11 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 1, 2020 2:19:54 GMT -5
There is wide speculation about whether vandalism and looting is being seeded by agents provocateurs, and about who they might be and why. Depending on what point of view you're looking for, you can hear shouts of "police unions!" or "Soros!" or "Anarchists!" or "Stephen Miller!" or "Obama!" or "right-wing militias!" or "Antifa" or "adrenaline seekers!" or "it's a sign of the end times!" or "" or "" or "" or ""... It's hard to have a sober conversation about this stuff if everyone is distracted by their own biases and agendas. Just be aware that people are always trying to steer the conversation in their direction or away from something else. Don't get caught up in believing something just because it sounds good to your ears. It may sound just as good to the guy across the street who sees it in the exact opposite way as you. Maybe you're both right. Maybe all of the above are standing side by side while they throw bricks in windows. Ask yourself why on behalf of every group, and then ask yourself what each of them might be trying to distract you from. That's where the conversation should start – with questions, not easy answers. 8:20ff en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract„Hobbes argued that government is not a party to the original contract and citizens are not obligated to submit to the government when it is too weak to act effectively to suppress factionalism and civil unrest. According to other social contract theorists, when the government fails to secure their natural rights (Locke) or satisfy the best interests of society (called the "general will" by Rousseau), citizens can withdraw their obligation to obey, or change the leadership through elections or other means including, when necessary, violence.“ To be clear ...I am not defending the riots...but there is certainly a point...black, afro-american experiencing daily that big parts of society don‘t obey to basic rules of the contract, parts of government and in recent years even the President of the United States are full of hatred, racism ...on a daily basis...police, law enforcement often act like terrorists when it comes to blacks...all the white suprematism in the United States...even by some parts of this forum...daily...all the racist posts here ...daily by a few members
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Post by I Need A Drink on Jun 1, 2020 14:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 1, 2020 19:38:14 GMT -5
Look, I don't know the names of the organizations organizing the terrorist groups but I do know that I'd love to see them blown off the face of the earth, and you would be, too, if your business, home and neighborhood are next. And that could very well happen. Once the cities are destroyed, next the suburbs? One think I'm certain of, Nancy Pelosi's mansion won't be disturbed, nor the neighborhoods/mansions of the rich and famous in Hollywood and LA. Heavens no! If people ever wondered why the 2nd Amendment is so important, they might find out very soon. We're living the reason, it's clearer now than ever.
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Post by djt2020 on Oct 18, 2020 12:56:43 GMT -5
Look, I don't know the names of the organizations organizing the terrorist groups but I do know that I'd love to see them blown off the face of the earth, and you would be, too, if your business, home and neighborhood are next. And that could very well happen. Once the cities are destroyed, next the suburbs? One think I'm certain of, Nancy Pelosi's mansion won't be disturbed, nor the neighborhoods/mansions of the rich and famous in Hollywood and LA. Heavens no! If people ever wondered why the 2nd Amendment is so important, they might find out very soon. We're living the reason, it's clearer now than ever. Tell them that GOD is going to shut them down.
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Post by djt2020 on Oct 18, 2020 13:01:02 GMT -5
There is wide speculation about whether vandalism and looting is being seeded by agents provocateurs, and about who they might be and why. Depending on what point of view you're looking for, you can hear shouts of "police unions!" or "Soros!" or "Anarchists!" or "Stephen Miller!" or "Obama!" or "right-wing militias!" or "Antifa" or "adrenaline seekers!" or "it's a sign of the end times!" or "" or "" or "" or ""... It's hard to have a sober conversation about this stuff if everyone is distracted by their own biases and agendas. Just be aware that people are always trying to steer the conversation in their direction or away from something else. Don't get caught up in believing something just because it sounds good to your ears. It may sound just as good to the guy across the street who sees it in the exact opposite way as you. Maybe you're both right. Maybe all of the above are standing side by side while they throw bricks in windows. Ask yourself why on behalf of every group, and then ask yourself what each of them might be trying to distract you from. That's where the conversation should start – with questions, not easy answers. „Hobbes argued that government is not a party to the original contract and citizens are not obligated to submit to the government when it is too weak to act effectively to suppress factionalism and civil unrest. According to other social contract theorists, when the government fails to secure their natural rights (Locke) or satisfy the best interests of society (called the "general will" by Rousseau), citizens can withdraw their obligation to obey, or change the leadership through elections or other means including, when necessary, violence.“ To be clear ...I am not defending the riots...but there is certainly a point...black, afro-american experiencing daily that big parts of society don‘t obey to basic rules of the contract, parts of government and in recent years even the President of the United States are full of hatred, racism ...on a daily basis...police, law enforcement often act like terrorists when it comes to blacks...all the white suprematism in the United States...even by some parts of this forum...daily...all the racist posts here ...daily by a few members Tell them that GOD is going to shut them down.
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