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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:11:10 GMT -5
Because it demonstrates political corruption...you aren't supposed to select a political enemy and then go try to find or make up a crime for him. You find a crime, then prosecute whoever you find committed it. He had a political agenda to find something, anything, on Trump. He promised to prosecute him before he even knew if he had committed any crime, to make his Trump hating voter base happy. Come on socal, you are smarter than that. lol I'm a lot less smart than you think I am. But I'm smart enough to know that political corruption is illegal. If the DA, Bragg, committed political corruption, you can bet that Trump's lawyers would have brought him up for misconduct charges with the NY Bar Association or whatever appropriate body for regulating lawyers. We know that Trump will sue everyone at the drop of a hat. But Bragg did not face misconduct charges. That tells me everything I need to know. LOL Fanny Willis is getting some of that investigation...shes corrupt too. Trump is trying to run for president, not go chasing corrupt D.A.s and judges in liberal NYC where 90 percent of the population hates him. Chances of success would be low, and he has far too much to do anyway, you know, with defending himself in fake court cases launched by corrupt dem D.A.s right before an election, when he's trying to campaign for president. lol You just want to believe what you want to believe. I even showed you a clip of famed liberal Constitutional scholar and lawyer Alan Dershowitz going off on how biased the judge was here. I guess you'll just have to wait until it gets overturned to be convinced. Its guaranteed in this case...its a constitutional disaster. But appeals take time. And here another clue...you dont go chasing after ex-presdients and leading contenders in an election year for bookkeeping errors unless you have a political agenda. Its fare too trivial, and far too damaging to the country. IF you do so, it better be damn important, like rape, murder, treaon, etc.and be rock solid legally. This has neither. Its a about an alleged bookkeeping error that his bookkeeper made that was made into a crime by a second, federal crime that the state has no jurudiction over, that the feds already looked at and said there was no crime there, and that hasn't even been explained...NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE CRIME IS. LoL Did you believe that the fake, failed Russia collusion coup attempt was a real thing too? lol
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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:11:52 GMT -5
LoL...when you can tell us what the crime was that magically resurrected the long dead alledged misdemeanor bookkeeping error, you let us know. Don't feel bad, nobody knows. lol I'm not going to read it to you. It's time to grow up and learn to read. Translation...you don't know either. That's okay, don't feel bad. Nobody knows. lol
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 1, 2024 23:15:56 GMT -5
This coming from Alan Dershowitz, a democrat who voted for Hillary and Biden. He was actually in the courtroom, and it seems he strongly disagrees with your notion that he judge isn't biased. lol Dershowitz is one opinion and he has every right to state it. But the US has 333M opinions and the others count every bit as much.
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Post by BOGC on Jun 1, 2024 23:19:54 GMT -5
I'd give you half a like for that if I could. Most of the MAGA crowd are not fringe, they're just tired of being bossed around by those that restrict their liberties or impose costs or burdens but never deliver what they promise. They are also tired of sending billions our tax dollars to democrat and RINO money-laundering countries like Ukraine. Brain-damaged libtards such as the "real" Outhouse are completely in favor That's a tough one. Ukraine is fairly corrupt and has been a money-laundering channel. OTOH, their aspirations to NATO and EU membership will require them to clean up, if they're serious. Nevertheless, one might suppose they're still the lesser evil compared to letting Putin run wild. Ukraine is doing OUR dirty work, and it's only costing us money, not blood, at least so far. And Europe (more at risk from Putin's hunger to re-dominate all that was once the USSR and Warsaw Pact) is providing money and arms too, if still perhaps expecting us to do more than our share given that we're a lot farther away and at less immediate risk. Dictators need to be opposed WHENEVER they or their proxies use force. Zelenskyy isn't a libertarian nor a model for ethics, but he's no Putin, either. I want Russia pushed back within its borders as of immediately after the dissolution of the USSR, to include being expelled from Crimea. Before they invaded Crimea, they did have a basing agreement to ensure Black Sea access. They should have been satisfied with that, but Putin will never be satisfied with anything less than being the restorer of Greater Russia. If he weren't stupid, Putin would never have started the new invasion. Russia has more land and resources than people, without invading anything else; and they're killing or driving away people with the war. And their best buddies the PRC won't be their best buddies forever; Russia has a nice chunk of land that was once Chinese, and the Chinese viewpoint is centuries longer than the Russian one. Already Putin's Russia is the junior partner of China. It would be in the best long-term interests of Russia for Putin and all of like mind to die, Russia to withdraw and gradually restore relations with the West. And it would certainly be in the best interest of most of the rest of the world, including the US.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 1, 2024 23:20:48 GMT -5
I'm a lot less smart than you think I am. But I'm smart enough to know that political corruption is illegal. If the DA, Bragg, committed political corruption, you can bet that Trump's lawyers would have brought him up for misconduct charges with the NY Bar Association or whatever appropriate body for regulating lawyers. We know that Trump will sue everyone at the drop of a hat. But Bragg did not face misconduct charges. That tells me everything I need to know. he [Trump] has far too much to do anyway, you know, with defending himself in fake court cases launched by corrupt dem D.A.s right before an election Filing misconduct charges against Bragg would be the best way for Trump to defend himself. That fact that Trump did not do that tells me everything I need to know.
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 1, 2024 23:21:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to read it to you. It's time to grow up and learn to read. Translation...you don't know either. That's okay, don't feel bad. Nobody knows. lol All the facts are spelled out in the Wikipedia article. But that's okay - we understand - you prefer to continue acting ignorant. At least you stopped dribbling soup down your chin (but you might want to keep a napkin handy).
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Post by BOGC on Jun 1, 2024 23:22:10 GMT -5
This coming from Alan Dershowitz, a democrat who voted for Hillary and Biden. He was actually in the courtroom, and it seems he strongly disagrees with your notion that he judge isn't biased. lol Dershowitz is one opinion and he has every right to state it. But the US has 333M opinions and the others count every bit as much. Yes, we wouldn't want the incredibly ignorant, or the communists that are descendents of KGB agents, to have any less voice than an expert. That was sarcasm, in case you missed it.
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 1, 2024 23:25:38 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:30:10 GMT -5
This coming from Alan Dershowitz, a democrat who voted for Hillary and Biden. He was actually in the courtroom, and it seems he strongly disagrees with your notion that he judge isn't biased. lol Dershowitz is one opinion and he has every right to state it. But the US has 333M opinions and the others count every bit as much. lol...not really, not when they werent there in the courtroom, not when they dont understand the law, not when they are politically biased. If he was politically biased, he would be arguing that the verdict is legit. You are just like most Trump haters....facts dont matter, non-biased expert witnesses like Dershowitz don't matter, the fact that nobody even knows what the crime is that Trump committed doesn't matter...you just want to believe anything and everything that is anti-Trump. TDS is intellectual suicide...its all based on the emotion of hating Trump. Trumps no saint, I get that, but he's also no criminal. he has been investigated endlessly for 8 years by TDS, corrupt lefties and still nothing has been found on him. If anything, he is the cleanest politician in D.C. But dems are so freaked out that he might become president again, they are making crap up...like with the Russia collusion nonsense, which make no mistake, was a coup attempt. It's just wild to me how TDSers just cant see it, or refuse to see it. lol Anyway, back to music talk. Come on Jackie, give me something to get excited about, like new concert dates. So much more fun to talk about than politics. The country is SO polarized. lol
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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:32:06 GMT -5
Translation...you don't know either. That's okay, don't feel bad. Nobody knows. lol All the facts are spelled out in the Wikipedia article. But that's okay - we understand - you prefer to continue acting ignorant. At least you stopped dribbling soup down your chin (but you might want to keep a napkin handy). lol...its not in that information..thats why you cant tell me what it is. It's a mystery. If you could tell me, you would only be too happy to prove me wrong. But thats the problem, its one of multiple fatal flaws in this fake case.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jun 1, 2024 23:39:38 GMT -5
All the facts are spelled out in the Wikipedia article. But that's okay - we understand - you prefer to continue acting ignorant. At least you stopped dribbling soup down your chin (but you might want to keep a napkin handy). lol...its not in that information..thats why you cant tell me what it is. It's a mystery. If you could tell me, you would only be too happy to prove me wrong. But thats the problem, its one of multiple fatal flaws in this fake case. Outhouse has always insisted that people check out his resources and inform themselves about the things he posts. But, he will NEVER be open to doing the same for others. It's the typical Libtard MO. Libtards do not know how to reason and will never know how to do so. These people are a lost cause.
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 1, 2024 23:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:43:41 GMT -5
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 1, 2024 23:43:43 GMT -5
lol...its not in that information..thats why you cant tell me what it is. It's a mystery. If you could tell me, you would only be too happy to prove me wrong. But thats the problem, its one of multiple fatal flaws in this fake case. Outhouse has always insisted that people check out his resources and inform themselves about the things he posts. But, he will NEVER be open to doing the same for others. It's the typical Libtard MO. Libtards do not know how to reason and will never know how to do so. These people are a lost cause. At least I'm not talking to myself. Hee haw ROFL
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Post by Final post on Jun 1, 2024 23:46:25 GMT -5
The law:
Laws of New York Penal Law Section 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
The indictment:
SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NEW YORK THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK -against- DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant. THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE, in violation of Penal Law ยง175.10, committed as follows... [thirty-four counts]
The outcome:
Read the official orders of the court. The judge will memorialize the trial (i.e., findings of fact, conclusions of law, sentence, etc.) and issue and publish the formal order. I don't know whether this is at the time of sentencing, or after. Reading the court documents is better than watching people talk about it one way or another.
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