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Post by BOGC on Jun 1, 2024 23:47:33 GMT -5
Putin knows that for him to overtly take sides will stir up more division. I don't think he cares that much who wins or loses, as long as they're weakened. Trump has sometimes said nice things about dictators and other objectionable people...UNTIL they become a nuisance to him. Stupid, but nobody including Trump actually likes Putin.
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Post by donkey on Jun 1, 2024 23:51:36 GMT -5
The law:Laws of New York Penal Law Section 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony. The indictment:SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NEW YORK THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK -against- DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant. THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE, in violation of Penal Law ยง175.10, committed as follows... [thirty-four counts] The outcome: Read the official orders of the court. The judge will memorialize the trial (i.e., findings of fact, conclusions of law, sentence, etc.) and issue and publish the formal order. I don't know whether this is at the time of sentencing, or after. Reading the court documents is better than watching people talk about it one way or another. Its simple...the crazy, unprecedented legal theory proposed by the prosecution is that a misdemeanor...a bookkeeping error, that is long dead due to being past the statute of limitations, can somehow be revived and changed into a felony if it can be attached to a second misdemeanor, presumably at the federal level (for which the state court doesnt even have any jurisdiction). Theoretically, its some Federal Campaign violation,but the Federal Campaign Committee already looked at it and found no violations (which are usually just handled with having to pay a fine, by the way. Hillary had to do that when she ran due to a violation). The D.A. before Bragg looked at this potential case and found there was no case and rejected prosecuting as well. Even Bragg looked at it and rejected it, UNTIL, Trump decided to run for President and Bragg got all kinds of pressure from the left to prosecute the "Zombie" case anyway. However, nobody knows that that second misdemeanor crime is. ROFL
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 1, 2024 23:58:04 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 0:02:14 GMT -5
The indictment never spelled out the second, underlying misdemeanor crime that supposedly turned the older, dead bookkeeping alleged misdemeanor into a felony. Normally it would spell it out, but there was none listed in the indictment...very unusual. So, everyone waited for it to be spelled out in the trial...but it never was. Now we know why it wasnt spelled out in the indictment...because there isn't one. This is why this case is GUARANTEED to be overturned. But that will take months, probably after the election. lol You'll see. Just don't forget to come back and tell me I was right when it happens. ROFL By the way, word has it that Bragg's team called it the "Zombie" case, because there's nothing to it.
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 2, 2024 0:08:40 GMT -5
The indictment never spelled out the second, underlying misdemeanor crime that turned the dead alledged misdemeanor into a felony. Normally it would spell it out, but there was none...very unusual. So, everyone waited for it to be spelled out in the trial...but it never was. Now we know why its wasnt spelled out in the indictment...because there isn't one. This is why this case is GUARANTEED to be overturned. But that will take months, probably after the election. lol Keep repeating those lines to yourself as many times as you need to to feel ignorant and happy with yourself. Just remember, no matter how many times you repeat it, it still doesn't make it true. Hee Haw LOL ROFL
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jun 2, 2024 0:13:25 GMT -5
Outhouse has always insisted that people check out his resources and inform themselves about the things he posts. But, he will NEVER be open to doing the same for others. It's the typical Libtard MO. Libtards do not know how to reason and will never know how to do so. These people are a lost cause. At least I'm not talking to myself. Hee haw ROFL You admit that you insist that others look at what you post and refuse to do the same for others. That speaks for itself. And btw, I would vote for Biden if he was a convicted felon if I knew that my life and the lives around me would be better off with him in power. But Biden and the Dems are running the country into the ground, so I'll pass.
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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 0:16:54 GMT -5
The indictment never spelled out the second, underlying misdemeanor crime that turned the dead alledged misdemeanor into a felony. Normally it would spell it out, but there was none...very unusual. So, everyone waited for it to be spelled out in the trial...but it never was. Now we know why its wasnt spelled out in the indictment...because there isn't one. This is why this case is GUARANTEED to be overturned. But that will take months, probably after the election. lol Keep repeating those lines to yourself as many times as you need to to feel ignorant and happy with yourself. Just remember, no matter how many times you repeat it, it still doesn't make it true. Hee Haw LOL ROFL lol....you are the one claiming the case is legit...but nobody knows what law Trump broke, which inherently make is not legit. When you find it, you let us know. Telling me to go find something that doesn't exist doesn't work for you. I could tell you that the Easter Bunny exists. You could respond that no, it doesn't. I could then say, yes it does...go find it. But it doesn't exist, so you can't find it. I am the one making the claim that the Easter Bunner exists, so I would have then show evidence of that that backs up my claim. You can't prove a negative, but you can prove a positive, aka, you can't prove that something doesn't exist, but you can prove that it does exist. ROFL When you go after a president legally, it better be a very serious charge and it better be very clear what the charge is. This is neither. None of us here can even spell out what the crime is or what law was broken. That's a huge red flag that this is bullshit. ROFL
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 2, 2024 0:19:58 GMT -5
At least I'm not talking to myself. Hee haw ROFL You admit that you insist that others look at what you post and refuse to do the same for others. That speaks for itself. And btw, I would vote for Biden if he was a convicted felon if I knew that my life and the lives around me would be better off with him in power. But Biden and the Dems are running the country into the ground, so I'll pass. Whatever you say, donkey or Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist, or are you the Easter Bunny now? Hee HAR de HAR whoo hoo Haw ROFL LOL LOLOL
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jun 2, 2024 0:21:31 GMT -5
They are also tired of sending billions our tax dollars to democrat and RINO money-laundering countries like Ukraine. Brain-damaged libtards such as the "real" Outhouse are completely in favor That's a tough one. Ukraine is fairly corrupt and has been a money-laundering channel. OTOH, their aspirations to NATO and EU membership will require them to clean up, if they're serious. Nevertheless, one might suppose they're still the lesser evil compared to letting Putin run wild. Ukraine is doing OUR dirty work, and it's only costing us money, not blood, at least so far. And Europe (more at risk from Putin's hunger to re-dominate all that was once the USSR and Warsaw Pact) is providing money and arms too, if still perhaps expecting us to do more than our share given that we're a lot farther away and at less immediate risk. Dictators need to be opposed WHENEVER they or their proxies use force. Zelenskyy isn't a libertarian nor a model for ethics, but he's no Putin, either. I want Russia pushed back within its borders as of immediately after the dissolution of the USSR, to include being expelled from Crimea. Before they invaded Crimea, they did have a basing agreement to ensure Black Sea access. They should have been satisfied with that, but Putin will never be satisfied with anything less than being the restorer of Greater Russia. If he weren't stupid, Putin would never have started the new invasion. Russia has more land and resources than people, without invading anything else; and they're killing or driving away people with the war. And their best buddies the PRC won't be their best buddies forever; Russia has a nice chunk of land that was once Chinese, and the Chinese viewpoint is centuries longer than the Russian one. Already Putin's Russia is the junior partner of China. It would be in the best long-term interests of Russia for Putin and all of like mind to die, Russia to withdraw and gradually restore relations with the West. And it would certainly be in the best interest of most of the rest of the world, including the US. Putin is not a good guy, but he is acting logically when it comes to Ukraine. As far as Russia is concerned, Ukraine joining NATO would be seen as an existential threat to Russia. He's been saying that for years. It's not like the US has military bases with nuclear weapons within reach of Russia By supporting Ukraine, the US is now even more vulnerable as Russia and China have moved to same page as far as their views of a US threat towards both countries. Russia should have stayed out of Ukraine, but the US seems to never learn that we should defend our own borders and stop trying to be the policemen of the world. Blowback is inevitable if we continue in that role. What would the US do if Russia was supporting Mexico in a war against the US?
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 2, 2024 0:23:57 GMT -5
US seems to never learn that we should defend our own borders and stop trying to be the policemen of the world. So you think we should have stayed out of WW2?
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Post by Easter Bunny on Jun 2, 2024 0:24:02 GMT -5
You admit that you insist that others look at what you post and refuse to do the same for others. That speaks for itself. And btw, I would vote for Biden if he was a convicted felon if I knew that my life and the lives around me would be better off with him in power. But Biden and the Dems are running the country into the ground, so I'll pass. Whatever you say, donkey or Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist, or are you the Easter Bunny now? Hee HAR de HAR whoo hoo Haw ROFL LOL LOLOL How dare you all. I am real, and don't appreciate being dragged into this conversation.
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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 0:27:25 GMT -5
US seems to never learn that we should defend our own borders and stop trying to be the policemen of the world. So you think we should have stayed out of WW2? While I am republican on most issues, I disagree with many folks on the right with his one. Letting Russia capture Ukraine would be horrible. We stayed out of WWII way too long, and it made it much harder to win once we got attacked and dragged into it. You cant allow foreign bad actors to invade democracies. When you do, it emboldens them to keep doing it to more countries. Its also an affront to all democracies and the civilized world. Just my two cents. lol
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Post by The Real Outhouse on Jun 2, 2024 0:27:29 GMT -5
By the way, word has it that Bragg's team called it the "Zombie" case, because there's nothing to it. I heard they called it the "Zombie" case because they knew it would make Trump's head explode, as well as the heads of his sheeple too. I can't prove it - but as you have demonstrated, no one needs to prove anything they say, as long as they keep repeating it. HEE HAW LOLOLOL
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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 0:29:47 GMT -5
By the way, word has it that Bragg's team called it the "Zombie" case, because there's nothing to it. I heard they called it the "Zombie" case because they knew it would make Trump's head explode, as well as the heads of his sheeple too. I can't prove it - but as you have demonstrated, no one needs to prove anything they say, as long as they keep repeating it. HEE HAW LOLOLOL Only in your TDS dreams Outhouse. ROFL
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Post by colt46 on Jun 2, 2024 0:37:52 GMT -5
The left like to blame the right for the mistakes they themselves make, Democrats like to cheat anyway possible to help their cause! Bragg ran a campaign on getting Trump if elected well he kept his campaign promise by throwing the judicial system out the window !
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