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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:31:05 GMT -5
Yes, we live in a democratic republic, but politicians try to fool the American public that we live in a democracy, because if we did, it gives the government more power. The libs (including eulenspiegel) have been complaining Trump is going to destroy democracy, even though the libs are doing whatever they can to sabotage whatever form democracy we have. And the democracy reference is about our elections. We have fully democratic elections. Except Democrats, who anointed a replacement candidate rather than doing anything more open. Democrats are just tyrants that don't yet have all the power they want. They must NEVER get it! (yes, there are a few centrist Democrats, but a number of them have left because they're shouted down by the evil crazies of the far left)
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:32:45 GMT -5
I think eulenspiegel prefers the China 🇨🇳 form of government! This is the ridiculous, stupid misconception of uneducated US citizens..a working health care system, tuition free universities are not socialism ..Germany‘s health care system was created in its basics in 1883 by Bismarck ..chancellor in a monarchy.. Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm I…and the USA has still a trash system..140 years later The land of the free is one of the most dangerous countries..if not the most dangerous country ..in developed world. I'd rather have massacres and people dying of preventable causes than have gun bans and rationed medicine and German doctors (some of ours do it too) that experiment on their patients. If you're weak, you die. If you're unlucky, you die. This improves the species.
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Post by donkey on Jul 26, 2024 15:38:40 GMT -5
Yes it is paid by citizens..through taxes..but it is an investment in a working society..full of educated people… an investment into future..and it worked very well the last 100 years.. Most of the things you use in daily life..things that save your asses.. were invented by German scientists. But just look at sport..at soccer.. the MLS, college teams..are a joke..because getting into college is not about talent..but having rich parents which are financing your coaches through childhood..real talented players are not discovered.. Even in basketball you lose track compared to the rest of the world..now hoping to save your..with grandpas at the olympics. More and more players in the NBA learned the game in their home county..where everything is free..is paid by club..perhaps paying 80 Euros club fee per year NOTHING IS FREE. Someone always pays. Pay for your own damn self, and if you have enough left over after needs and a reasonable variety of wants, and you CHOOSE to help pay for someone else, that's great. But strangers are not everybody's problem! Agreed. I have no interest in paying someone else's tuition. They get the benefit, they pay for it. These generalized socialist proclamations that we should pay for it because it benefits society don't fly. We created the greatest country and greatest economy on the planet based on capitalism and personal drive, responsibility and accountability. Removing all of those motivators makes people lazy, weak, entitled, and unmotivated to excel...it kills drive and promotes mediocrity. Anyone can succeed in America...there are endless opportunities to thrive for anyone with any ambition who is willing to work hard.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 15:42:38 GMT -5
This is the ridiculous, stupid misconception of uneducated US citizens..a working health care system, tuition free universities are not socialism ..Germany‘s health care system was created in its basics in 1883 by Bismarck ..chancellor in a monarchy.. Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm I…and the USA has still a trash system..140 years later The land of the free is one of the most dangerous countries..if not the most dangerous country ..in developed world. I'd rather have massacres and people dying of preventable causes than have gun bans and rationed medicine and German doctors (some of ours do it too) that experiment on their patients. If you're weak, you die. If you're unlucky, you die. This improves the species. Again uneducated bs…survival of the fittest.. never meant that you have to be the strongest…but who is best in adapting to the eco system So wasting talented people…intelligent people…harms a society, kills a society..in the end you have only Biff Tannens or Lauren Bobarts, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz etc.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:49:16 GMT -5
The United States is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, which is a combination structure including elements of both a republic and a democracy. A republic is not a democracy. The difference between a republic and a democracy: -A republic is a representative form of government limited by a charter (such as the Constitution) -A democracy is a form of government that is ruled by the majority Richard clearly knows the difference - that's why he asked the question. Ahhh..after 30 seconds research I found the stupid source of all this..the Republican Party… www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/05/03/democracy-constitutional-republic-politicians-americaSomething of similar meaning if not identical wording can be found many places. In a pure democracy, the majority could decide to subjugate (or worse) a minority, there's no limit to the majority's powers. That's evil. Even in a republic it has happened, but there are mechanisms with which that can be stopped once some agreement is reached that it needs to be stopped. Parliamentary governments are a clusterf--k, if certainly better than an outright dictatorship, although a parliament can all too easily be persuaded to grant extraordinary powers to the chancellor. No, not Star Wars, the fall of the Weimar Republic. On a lesser scale, consider a quote of uncertain origin, usually misattributed to Alexander Tytler: A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage. Sounds a bit like Spengler's cyclical view of history. Or consider de Tocqueville's warnings. Collectivism is DANGEROUS.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:50:05 GMT -5
NOTHING IS FREE. Someone always pays. Pay for your own damn self, and if you have enough left over after needs and a reasonable variety of wants, and you CHOOSE to help pay for someone else, that's great. But strangers are not everybody's problem! Agreed. I have no interest in paying someone else's tuition. They get the benefit, they pay for it. These generalized socialist proclamations that we should pay for it because it benefits society don't fly. We created the greatest country and greatest economy on the planet based on capitalism and personal drive, responsibility and accountability. Removing all of those motivators makes people lazy, weak, entitled, and unmotivated to excel...it kills drive and promotes mediocrity. Anyone can succeed in America...there are endless opportunities to thrive for anyone with any ambition who is willing to work hard. Start the reformation early, ban participation trophies!
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:52:34 GMT -5
I'd rather have massacres and people dying of preventable causes than have gun bans and rationed medicine and German doctors (some of ours do it too) that experiment on their patients. If you're weak, you die. If you're unlucky, you die. This improves the species. Again uneducated bs…survival of the fittest.. never meant that you have to be the strongest…but who is best in adapting to the eco system So wasting talented people…intelligent people…harms a society, kills a society..in the end you have only Biff Tannens or Lauren Bobarts, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz etc. Most of the talented and intelligent, unless so narrow in their abilities as to be almost autistic, will be survivors. If you look at the people that are chronic recipients of handouts, they demonstrate NO talent. They might have talent, but they'll never have a reason to use it. Survival is a strong motivator. If people were a little more sensible, we could all be responsible libertarians. Unfortunately we need conservatives to execute the dangerous criminals, and close the borders to inbound invasion.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 16:59:08 GMT -5
I must be as educated as you are since I can copy and paste things into google as well as you can. The definitions stand because that IS the difference between the two, silly. The people in discussions online who always parrot that we aren't a democracy, but a constitutional republic are so dumb. We are both. Sure, we arent a pure democracy, where the majority rules, but almost nobody ever claims that we are that because everyone knows that we aren't that. We are a representative democracy, we are a constitutional republic, all true just different choices of descriptors...we elect people to represent us. But at the same time, our elections are democratic. As far as the presidential election goes, we have 50 separate state, fully democratic elections. Just because we aren't a pure democracy doesn't mean we aren't a form of democracy. We certainly are. Some people need to use their head and actually think about what they are saying before they go online and self- righteously proclaim, or parrot, something they heard once on Tucker Carlson. LoL It's really quite cringe and embarrassing to witness, as it just illustrates for all to see that they really have no idea what they are babbling about. lol I agree completely. I am glad that my junior high teachers taught me the difference between a republic and a democracy long before Tucker Carlson took to the airwaves. At that time, I always thought that the majority wins, no matter what. But those teachers taught me the dangers of a living in a democracy brings on tyranny of the majority it can bring havoc to a society. It was interesting to see that concept in action in 2016 when Hillary won the popular vote, but lost the election because she had fewer electoral votes. Of course at that time, Dems made a stink about it and made a push to get rid of the electoral college. Those folks don't know the difference between a democracy and a democratic republic because school systems are indoctrination centers.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 26, 2024 17:09:45 GMT -5
What part of do not get pregnant if you don't want to carry to term don't you understand? What part of "if you want a abortion go to a Democratic state" don't you understand?
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 26, 2024 17:23:00 GMT -5
What part of do not get pregnant if you don't want to carry to term don't you understand? What part of "if you want a abortion go to a Democratic state" don't you understand? Yup, they can go to another stand to abort the baby, or just not get pregnant in the first place. Granted, no birth control is 100% effective but it's a helluva lot more effective than not using any because you can always go to another state and abort it.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 18:06:31 GMT -5
What part of do not get pregnant if you don't want to carry to term don't you understand? What part of "if you want a abortion go to a Democratic state" don't you understand? Sadly true. The premise that it should be a state decision and not a federal one (neither Roe nor federal ban) is valid, but it still enables Democrats to do what they do best, murder (including by not enforcing laws in cities they run).
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 19:29:22 GMT -5
What part of "if you want a abortion go to a Democratic state" don't you understand? Sadly true. The premise that it should be a state decision and not a federal one (neither Roe nor federal ban) is valid, but it still enables Democrats to do what they do best, murder (including by not enforcing laws in cities they run). Abortion is a war on the black population. The founder of Planned Parent, eugenicist Margaret Sanger, wrote this: “Negro parents,” Sanger wrote, “need birth control to help alleviate some of the needless suffering and heartbreak, to get firmly established on the road to health and better living.” In a letter to her friend Clarence Gamble (of Proctor and Gamble) in 1939, Sanger wrote, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” The greatest number of abortions in the USA are found in the black population. In 2021, 41.5 percent of abortions took place among black people, while blacks make up only about 13% of the entirre populations. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm#T6_downIt's not surprising that even though abortion is a very racist policy, it is supported most strongly by Dems who pretend they are not racists.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 26, 2024 19:32:00 GMT -5
Congratulation for saying 2 lies in 1 word. "Murder" is the illegal killing of a human being. We are talking only about legal abortions. And fetuses are not human beings - they don't have birth certificates or passports, they aren't counted in censuses, they can't own property or sue or be sued.
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Post by donkey on Jul 26, 2024 19:34:36 GMT -5
Congratulation for saying 2 lies in 1 word. "Murder" is the illegal killing of a human being. We are talking only about legal abortions. And fetuses are not human beings - they don't have birth certificates or passports, they aren't counted in censuses, they can't own property or sue or be sued. He's speaking morally...to him...not legally.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 26, 2024 19:41:08 GMT -5
That goes for you to SoCal Fan you started out as a fetus! Or do you think magic 🪄 happens and you are here ! Liberals are something they love ❤️ abortion, open borders, defund the police! Want the whole country to be like California, no thanks I don’t want to turn blue, stay Red is what I want!
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