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Post by richard on Jul 26, 2024 12:32:26 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel, from what I gather, the concept of democracy is very important to you and to the Democratic party as a whole. The concept of democracy is the ability for voters to have the right to choose their leaders. Even though there was a lot of shady business going on in the Democratic party primaries in 2016 (Bernie Sanders) and 2024 (everyone but Biden), on the surface, voters "chose" Clinton and Biden respectively in those two primary election cycles. Now that Biden has pulled himself out of the general election, is it democratic that Kamala Harris is eligible to be a final presidential candidate when she was polling next to 0% support as the Democrat nominee? I gather democracy isn't important to you after all Can someone tell me when the United States became a democracy there is nothing in the constitution about it.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 12:45:40 GMT -5
I gather democracy isn't important to you after all Can someone tell me when the United States became a democracy there is nothing in the constitution about it. Yes, we live in a democratic republic, but politicians try to fool the American public that we live in a democracy, because if we did, it gives the government more power. The libs (including eulenspiegel) have been complaining Trump is going to destroy democracy, even though the libs are doing whatever they can to sabotage whatever form democracy we have.
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Post by donkey on Jul 26, 2024 12:48:29 GMT -5
Can someone tell me when the United States became a democracy there is nothing in the constitution about it. Yes, we live in a democratic republic, but politicians try to fool the American public that we live in a democracy, because if we did, it gives the government more power. The libs (including eulenspiegel) have been complaining Trump is going to destroy democracy, even though the libs are doing whatever they can to sabotage whatever form democracy we have. And the democracy reference is about our elections. We have fully democratic elections.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 12:49:05 GMT -5
Full of educated people? So everyone in Germany can go to college if they want to go? You have enough colleges to handle all of those people? It's true that rich people here can send their children to college, they pay their own way, but that's better than sponging off of the taxpayers. And those who have good grades can get scholarships that are paid for by donors and alumni. Others take out loans and like any loan, they're responsible to pay them off. A garbage collector should not be paying off the loans of doctors, lawyers and rocket scientists. As far as sports goes, I don't follow them and I think the salaries athletes get are ludicrous, but if fans want to pay those obsene ticket prices that's their choice, it's their money. Yes, everyone with Abitur or Fachholschulreife can go to university..if he/she wants www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bildung-Forschung-Kultur/Hochschulen/Tabellen/studierende-insgesamt-bundeslaender.htmlwww.studis-online.de/hochschulen/universitaeten/staatlich/Does the system rely on stealing from Germany's population to pay for others to go to a university?
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 14:06:56 GMT -5
Does the system rely on stealing from Germany's population to pay for others to go to a university? I don‘t know anyone here in Germany who think that someone steals their money..as everyone shall have the same chances..for the profit of society..it is in the best interest of everyone. Where does the envy and resentment in the USA comes from? It is totally harming. The same with health care..in the rest of world no risk of getting bankrupt if having cancer..or needing a big surgery.. There is so much stability of society because of it..lower crime rates
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 14:13:52 GMT -5
I think eulenspiegel prefers the China 🇨🇳 form of government! This is the ridiculous, stupid misconception of uneducated US citizens..a working health care system, tuition free universities are not socialism ..Germany‘s health care system was created in its basics in 1883 by Bismarck ..chancellor in a monarchy.. Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm I…and the USA has still a trash system..140 years later The land of the free is one of the most dangerous countries..if not the most dangerous country ..in developed world.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 14:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 14:25:39 GMT -5
normally 9th grade…French Revolution and its basics.but I think our political science teacher explained our German voting system already in 8th grade..even res publica was one of the first words you learn in Latin ..most in 7th grade..some even in 5th grade
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 14:34:33 GMT -5
The United States is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, which is a combination structure including elements of both a republic and a democracy. A republic is not a democracy. The difference between a republic and a democracy: -A republic is a representative form of government limited by a charter (such as the Constitution) -A democracy is a form of government that is ruled by the majority Richard clearly knows the difference - that's why he asked the question.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 26, 2024 14:53:14 GMT -5
The United States is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, which is a combination structure including elements of both a republic and a democracy. A republic is not a democracy. The difference between a republic and a democracy: -A republic is a representative form of government limited by a charter (such as the Constitution) -A democracy is a form of government that is ruled by the majority Richard clearly knows the difference - that's why he asked the question. Ahhh..after 30 seconds research I found the stupid source of all this..the Republican Party… www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/05/03/democracy-constitutional-republic-politicians-america
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 26, 2024 14:58:40 GMT -5
The United States is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, which is a combination structure including elements of both a republic and a democracy. A republic is not a democracy. The difference between a republic and a democracy: -A republic is a representative form of government limited by a charter (such as the Constitution) -A democracy is a form of government that is ruled by the majority Richard clearly knows the difference - that's why he asked the question. Ahhh..after 30 seconds research I found the stupid source of all this..the Republican Party… www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/05/03/democracy-constitutional-republic-politicians-americaI must be as educated as you are since I can copy and paste things into google as well as you can. The definitions stand because that IS the difference between the two, silly.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 26, 2024 15:09:50 GMT -5
It’s amazing that someone across the pond is telling us how to run our country, he should stick with his own country and stop 🛑 lecturing us !
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Post by donkey on Jul 26, 2024 15:19:16 GMT -5
I must be as educated as you are since I can copy and paste things into google as well as you can. The definitions stand because that IS the difference between the two, silly. The people in discussions online who always parrot that we aren't a democracy, but a constitutional republic are so dumb. We are both. Sure, we arent a pure democracy, where the majority rules, but almost nobody ever claims that we are that because everyone knows that we aren't that. We are a representative democracy, we are a constitutional republic, all true just different choices of descriptors...we elect people to represent us. But at the same time, our elections are democratic. As far as the presidential election goes, we have 50 separate state, fully democratic elections. Just because we aren't a pure democracy doesn't mean we aren't a form of democracy. We certainly are. Some people need to use their head and actually think about what they are saying before they go online and self- righteously proclaim, or parrot, something they heard once on Tucker Carlson. LoL It's really quite cringe and embarrassing to witness, as it just illustrates for all to see that they really have no idea what they are babbling about. lol
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:24:11 GMT -5
If one gets pregnant, unless necessary to terminate the pregnancy to survive, one has an obligation to carry to term, whether or not one wants the child. Excecute rapists and absentee fathers that don't provide child support. I have no problem with squeezing money out of deadbeats...before executing them. Maybe even letting them live as long as they pay. ... NOBODY should get "free" (no such thing, it's stolen from someone else via taxes, or it's inflation, which steals from everyone) stuff from the government. ... Being pro-life does NOT mean being in favor of all needs met for everyone by society. Parasites should be left to die, and shot if they riot. If you want there to be charity, let it be VOLUNTARY AND PRIVATE. To sum up your position: - All pregnant women must carry their fetuses to birth unless their life is threatened. - If she is too poor to care for herself and the child before and after birth, she will get no government help. She must get voluntary private assistance. If she cannot get enough private assistance, she and her child (born or unborn) should be left to die. - If the father of her child cannot afford to support her and the child, he should be executed. ------------------------------------------------------------ It has been said that conservatives give the highest priority to the unborn and the lowest priority to the born. Which explains why there is so much poverty, destitution, homelessness, crime and substance abuse in the world's richest country. The unborn have rights, the only right that the born have is the right to lifelong misery. The Supreme Irony1. You say "Parasites should be left to die". But the fetus is the ultimate of parasitical beings. It is literally a blood sucker. 2. You say "If you want there to be charity, let it be VOLUNTARY AND PRIVATE." Yet you compel the mother to literally give her life blood to the fetus. What part of do not get pregnant if you don't want to carry to term don't you understand? There are many ways to avoid getting pregnant. There is ZERO connection between pregnancy and socialism. The proper "village" to raise a child is TWO responsible parents, grandparent assistance optional. Now if parents that are friends of other parents they trust want to provide mutual babysitting services (a night off is presumably a valued thing!), that's fine. But it's not an evil propagandizing redistributing government program, which is just a power grab to make everyone good little future subjects and serfs, well-conditioned to think only approved thoughts and report their parents if they express unapproved opinions. Socialists are an existential threat to liberty.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 26, 2024 15:28:46 GMT -5
Tuition free universities do not exist anywhere. The tuition is paid by all of the citizens rather than by the people who will benefit from the education, thus earning a lot more money. Yes it is paid by citizens..through taxes..but it is an investment in a working society..full of educated people… an investment into future..and it worked very well the last 100 years.. Most of the things you use in daily life..things that save your asses.. were invented by German scientists. But just look at sport..at soccer.. the MLS, college teams..are a joke..because getting into college is not about talent..but having rich parents which are financing your coaches through childhood..real talented players are not discovered.. Even in basketball you lose track compared to the rest of the world..now hoping to save your..with grandpas at the olympics. More and more players in the NBA learned the game in their home county..where everything is free..is paid by club..perhaps paying 80 Euros club fee per year NOTHING IS FREE. Someone always pays. Pay for your own damn self, and if you have enough left over after needs and a reasonable variety of wants, and you CHOOSE to help pay for someone else, that's great. But strangers are not everybody's problem!
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