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Post by colt46 on Jul 27, 2024 22:15:28 GMT -5
Well Harris wants abortion up to birth so you can feel comfortable voting for her Socal Fan!
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:18:56 GMT -5
Are you saying that a child can be a parasite after it is born? I'm saying that an unwanted child was an unwanted parasite when it was in the uterus.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:20:51 GMT -5
Well Harris wants abortion up to birth Give me proof of that.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:23:47 GMT -5
I say again have you heard of adoption? I say again have you heard of women who choose not to go through pregnancy and then give up their babies because it is more traumatic than abortion?
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Post by donkey on Jul 27, 2024 22:26:27 GMT -5
I say again have you heard of adoption? I say again have you heard of women who choose not to go through pregnancy and then give up their babies because it is more traumatic than abortion? Selfish...more traumatic for who? Not the baby. lol
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Post by donkey on Jul 27, 2024 22:27:58 GMT -5
Well Harris wants abortion up to birth Give me proof of that. Whatever her exact stance on abortion is aside, she's an unlikable, far left loon. Trump's going to stomp her in November. lol
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:28:21 GMT -5
Just because some might view an unwanted child as just a parasite, doesn't make that child merely a parasite. A mass murderer may view his victims as merely toys for his sick pleasure, but they are of course much more than that. A sick, twisted view by one person can be rejected by most reasonable people who are capable of showing empathy and compassion for others. Most reasonable people allow abortion in the first 2 trimesters.
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Post by donkey on Jul 27, 2024 22:32:14 GMT -5
Just because some might view an unwanted child as just a parasite, doesn't make that child merely a parasite. A mass murderer may view his victims as merely toys for his sick pleasure, but they are of course much more than that. A sick, twisted view by one person can be rejected by most reasonable people who are capable of showing empathy and compassion for others. Most reasonable people allow abortion in the first 2 trimesters. Or up to about 15 weeks...somewhere in that 2nd trimester anyway. Many would be squeamish at the thought of aborting a five to six month old fetus for example. But agree, there is a point somewhere that the majority finds acceptable. Really the only debate is exactly where that line should be drawn. I think most reasonable allow abortion in the first trimester for sure, and probably early 2nd trimester.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 27, 2024 22:35:27 GMT -5
Are you saying that a child can be a parasite after it is born? I'm saying that an unwanted child was an unwanted parasite when it was in the uterus. OK, it was a little confusing, because you said this earlier: A wanted child is far more than just a parasite. But an unwanted child is just a parasite. And in the real world, there are lots of unwanted children. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ I'm pretty sure you meant fetus instead of child, because in my mind, a child is a born human. But I don't understand how a wanted child (fetus) can be any more or less than an unwanted child (fetus). That doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:36:34 GMT -5
Trump's going to stomp her in November. Agreed. In fact, I tell all my Republican friends that it's a landslide and they don't have to bother to vote. You shouldn't bother either.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 27, 2024 22:42:55 GMT -5
But I don't understand how a wanted child (fetus) can be any more or less than an unwanted child (fetus). That doesn't make sense to me. "Wanted" or "unwanted" is entirely in the mind of the mother. In the mind of the mother, an unwanted fetus is just a parasite. A wanted fetus is much more.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 27, 2024 22:43:13 GMT -5
they should take responsibility for their decisions You keep talking about how people should use birth control and take responsibility for their decisions. Shouldn't state and local governments also take responsibility for their decisions? The US is at the top of the list in the rate of teen pregnancies among developed countries. www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/adolescent-pregnancy-and-its-outcomes-across-countriesI suspect the high pregnancy rate is because many states don't teach birth control in schools. In fact, some or many states in the Bible belt banned the teaching of birth control and allow only abstinence to be taught. This is a wonderful idea in theory but a complete failure in practice that only results in pregnancies. How can you blame kids for getting pregnant if they were never taught birth control (and abstinence-only education didn't work)? These are the states by teen pregnancy rates: www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htmThe very same Bible belt states with the highest teen pregnancy rates are the same ones that have banned almost all abortions. I think a lot of the problem is caused by the bad policies driven by well meaning but faulty ideology. Well, here we can agree. Young people should be taught about the birds and the bees, but preferably by the parents. Recently sexual education has expanded into topics that are not acceptable, including engaging in same-sex activities and transgenderism. Some schools have gone as far as convincing a young person that she or he is in the the wrong body and some even start giving these kids puberty blockers. They also convince the student not to tell their parents about the puberty blockers. The schools have gone to far and its the reason that many parents are beginning to home school their kids. Overall, the basics of sex ed should be provided, but the school should not be handing out condoms or the like.
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Jul 27, 2024 22:44:42 GMT -5
But I don't understand how a wanted child (fetus) can be any more or less than an unwanted child (fetus). That doesn't make sense to me. "Wanted" or "unwanted" is entirely in the mind of the mother. In the mind of the mother, an unwanted fetus is just a parasite. A wanted fetus is much more. More in what way?
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 27, 2024 22:45:33 GMT -5
Are you saying that a child can be a parasite after it is born? I'm saying that an unwanted child was an unwanted parasite when it was in the uterus. What's in the uterus is exactly the same thing whether the mother wants it or not. They're indistinguishable.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 27, 2024 22:50:24 GMT -5
I'm saying that an unwanted child was an unwanted parasite when it was in the uterus. OK, it was a little confusing, because you said this earlier: A wanted child is far more than just a parasite. But an unwanted child is just a parasite. And in the real world, there are lots of unwanted children. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ I'm pretty sure you meant fetus instead of child, because in my mind, a child is a born human. But I don't understand how a wanted child (fetus) can be any more or less than an unwanted child (fetus). That doesn't make sense to me.
I think he means that if the child isn't wanted, the mother might tell herself that it's a parasite to help to ease her guilty conscience when she kills is.
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