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Post by ChrisR on May 7, 2022 12:20:49 GMT -5
Oh SIMS, I am clearly a huge Jackie fan. Your problem is your views about her and the status of her career, as has been pointed out many times, are simply flat out wrong and don't reflect the reality. While there is a lot to like about Jackie and her incredible career, there is a lot to be concerned about as well. Being a fan to the point of excluding all negative realities is just delusional. It doesn't make you a better fan, it just makes you a delusional fan. Even Jackie's own mom's FB comments over the years about the struggling nature of Jackie's career are views you can't seem to come to grips with. And I guarantee you, Lisa is a far bigger fan of her own daughter than you are. Ignoring the negatives doesn't do Jackie any favors...you can't address what you don't acknowledge, and you can't fix something if you can't even see that it's broken. You would be like the pilot on the Hindenburg...a big smile on your face the whole way down, proclaiming that there is nothing wrong here and those seeing an impending crash are just not fans of blimp travel. lol Sims blames Jackie's big decline with her career mostly on Covid-19. Sims won't answer the big question in an honest way.... what is the main cause of Jackie's big decline with her career before covid-19!? I swear sims still lives in the 2010-2012 years! Nothing to see here, everything is just fine and dandy in Sim's fantasy world. In sims world, Covid is just a small blip in her mega superstar career. The problem with that theory is that a significant amount of decline occurred to her career long before covid-19 ever came a long. |
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Post by Colt46 on May 7, 2022 12:59:23 GMT -5
Hey ChrisR Jackie may never make it big, but she will still make a decent living and it beats a 9-5 job! You never say anything positive do yo?
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Post by ChrisR on May 7, 2022 13:12:03 GMT -5
Hey ChrisR Jackie may never make it big, but she will still make a decent living and it beats a 9-5 job! You never say anything positive do yo? Positive statement: She sings really well! |
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Post by richard on May 7, 2022 13:13:54 GMT -5
Looks like Jackie had a loss of 55 monthly spotify listeners since "Both Side Now" came out.
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Post by richard on May 7, 2022 13:54:00 GMT -5
People are going to Olivia Rodrigo's concerts and videoing the entire thing and putting it on youtube. Seems she could care less about people videoing her several take professional camera's. I guess she feels if people see her concerts they will just feel like they wished they were there. What does Jackie want to Hide that she doesn't want anyone to see a video of her concert. Probably she doesn't want people to see just how boring they are. She can blame her management for that. Does Jackie actually think she can get the type of reaction from the audience like Olivia and Tate gets singing covers of Joni Mitchell, who for the most part has been forgotten. I wonder where Olivia would be if she gave up her 9 to 5 acting job now and devoted more time to her singing career. comment from the above youtube.
reale consapevolezza
2 days ago
She is now amazingly self-assured. It is clear that she thrives on interaction with her audience. It is almost like that interaction is a drug for her (in the best possible sense, of course).
To be fair here is 9 minutes of one of Jackie's last concerts that someone was able to sneak out.
To think of all the advantages Jackie had in the 11 years as a professional singer over Olivia and where the 2 are now.
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Post by donkey on May 7, 2022 14:24:10 GMT -5
Hey ChrisR Jackie may never make it big, but she will still make a decent living and it beats a 9-5 job! You never say anything positive do yo? She already made it big, in the couple years immediately following AGT. But, that was a long time ago. She can still earn a living doing these smaller concerts for years to come though. She can keep doing what she loves for a living...that's still pretty cool. |
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Post by johnnyb on May 7, 2022 17:59:06 GMT -5
Hey ChrisR Jackie may never make it big, but she will still make a decent living and it beats a 9-5 job! You never say anything positive do yo? She already made it big, in the couple years immediately following AGT. But, that was a long time ago. She can still earn a living doing these smaller concerts for years to come though. She can keep doing what she loves for a living...that's still pretty cool. Get on board with American Cruise Lines and travel to the most amazing places across America, meet interesting people, learn valuable skills, and make money along the way. 🤩 |
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Post by msims on May 7, 2022 18:04:06 GMT -5
So Sims, if you stated the CC Grammy wasn't for vocalists and it was only instrumental, then one would presume you meant the CC Grammy wasn't for vocalists and it was only instrumental. I would be fine with discussing that category/my always being right with someone who isn't completely insane as now you are resorting to threats (beating). I sure did hit a nerve with Sims with that post. Being a fan to the point of excluding all negative realities is just delusional. It is insane to compare Jackie with her career sales of over 3 million units and all her accomplishments to that of the Hindenburg and its especially a red flag considering the timing as shes promoting a new album soon. If I don't agree with Rickky that makes me delusional? Rickky with his history of trolling and spamming has no ability to speak about or comprehend a CC vocalists career. If you want to be considered a fan agreeing with Rickky makes you an anti-fan, not a fan. Lisa has not been involved in her career in years and attempting to use or twist or cherry pick Lisa's cryptic words as somehow proof that there is a problem, is very anti-fan. Jackie is like any other successful artist who sells and markets her album material on TV and in concert. She is in control of her career and its not in anyone elses hands. what is the main cause of Jackie's big decline with her career before covid-19!? Im never going to agree with the premise of someone who hates Jackie. |
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Post by BOGC on May 7, 2022 18:10:31 GMT -5
Looks like Jackie had a loss of 55 monthly spotify listeners since "Both Side Now" came out. Those of her existing fans who won't wait for the CD or buy a download individually are probably using Apple Music or Amazon Music, not Spotify. We're mostly NOT teens looking for what is cheapest or free; we're probably looking for something that gives us more control (quality and/or permanent downloads). Can you get stats from either of those? |
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Post by donkey on May 7, 2022 18:13:53 GMT -5
The Hindenburg analogy was meant to illustrate your inability or unwillingness to see what's happening around you SIMS. ROFL
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Post by msims on May 7, 2022 18:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by richard on May 7, 2022 18:35:03 GMT -5
Looks like Jackie had a loss of 55 monthly spotify listeners since "Both Side Now" came out. Those of her existing fans who won't wait for the CD or buy a download individually are probably using Apple Music or Amazon Music, not Spotify. We're mostly NOT teens looking for what is cheapest or free; we're probably looking for something that gives us more control (quality and/or permanent downloads). Can you get stats from either of those? I am not a member of any of the streaming services. Spotify is just the largest one and gives you an artist monthly listeners. At one time amg1977 gave the stats of different artist on Spotify like the number of follower they have also. Spotify monthly listeners tells you how they are doing currently, it give you a running total of the last 28 days.
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Post by donkey on May 7, 2022 18:57:04 GMT -5
Your perceptions need some good old fashioned manipulating...they are so far removed from reality. |
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Post by Grace Fan on May 7, 2022 20:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by richard on May 7, 2022 21:46:18 GMT -5
That is good news for Grace, Flaunt magazine does more than just do photo shoots they usually have a good interview. Jenna Ortega was in Flaunt magazine and this is pretty much a template for Flaunt. I can almost picture Grace in all the photo's and video. With a good interview more leaning on the adult audience. flaunt.com/content/jenna-ortega-the-magic-issueThis is the sort of thing that could do Jackie some good instead sitting around doing nothing. |
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