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Post by donkey on May 12, 2022 22:15:15 GMT -5
No, her team didn't "make her do it"...it was still her decision. Her team did think it was a good idea though, which of course it was...you cant beat that international exposure. And it's a patriotic thing to do. Re-writing history again? Wait - are you and Sims the same person? The TDS is strong with this one. lol |
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Post by johnnyb on May 12, 2022 22:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by Pin the Tail on May 12, 2022 22:28:09 GMT -5
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Post by Pin the Tail on May 12, 2022 22:30:42 GMT -5
Jackie sitting on the sofa beside Matt Lauer. Creepy.
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Post by amg1977 on May 13, 2022 6:11:07 GMT -5
An original post could mean the original post in a thread or in this case it means its the post in question where I was referring to the fact that I brought Bocelli up prior and linking to it. Yeah because thats how I see you. 20 hours or so a day you are here for a decade or so doing this nonsense and the crazy angry energy you have.
Sims, you were trying to rewrite history again and you got called on it. The Bocelli comment was part of an exchange with Eulenspiegel and had nothing to do with the CC Grammy as you were speaking of the Best New Artist Grammy. However, we agreed on what happened with the Best New Artist Grammy as I made clear in my first response.
It's amusing, however, watching you flail away desperately trying to make your BS sound plausible. Reading your explanation of "original post" is like listening to Bill Clinton explain the definition of "is."
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Post by amg1977 on May 13, 2022 6:47:20 GMT -5
Yup, she was just singing for her country and her team made her do it. No, her team didn't "make her do it"...it was still her decision. Her team did think it was a good idea though, which of course it was...you cant beat that international exposure. And it's a patriotic thing to do.
Generally speaking, entertainers should avoid connections to politicians or political causes that are polarizing. Trump certainly fits the bill. Now if they offer the spot to you, you are unfortunately going to tick off somebody so you're between a rock and a hard place. However, if you volunteer your services, then there is managerial malpractice. The only exception is if the political causes at stake are very important to you and you want to take a stand. For example, Billie and Grace took a stand for abortion rights a few years ago and that is a polarizing issue but they both felt strongly on that issue. Also, their audiences and already expressed political views were consistent so no one was shocked by that development. With the Trump inauguration, I do not recall if the Evanchos stepped to the plate or if the White House invited them without any prior contact. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 13, 2022 7:30:22 GMT -5
No, her team didn't "make her do it"...it was still her decision. Her team did think it was a good idea though, which of course it was...you cant beat that international exposure. And it's a patriotic thing to do.
Generally speaking, entertainers should avoid connections to politicians or political causes that are polarizing. Trump certainly fits the bill. Now if they offer the spot to you, you are unfortunately going to tick off somebody so you're between a rock and a hard place. However, if you volunteer your services, then there is managerial malpractice. The only exception is if the political causes at stake are very important to you and you want to take a stand. For example, Billie and Grace took a stand for abortion rights a few years ago and that is a polarizing issue but they both felt strongly on that issue. Also, their audiences and already expressed political views were consistent so no one was shocked by that development. With the Trump inauguration, I do not recall if the Evanchos stepped to the plate or if the White House invited them without any prior contact. At one point it was said that her team offered her services to sing. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 13, 2022 7:40:13 GMT -5
Yup, she was just singing for her country and her team made her do it. No, her team didn't "make her do it"...it was still her decision. Her team did think it was a good idea though, which of course it was...you cant beat that international exposure. And it's a patriotic thing to do. Of course her team didn't force her to do it, but she certainly wanted to put the blame on them when she regretted doing it. |
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Post by amg1977 on May 13, 2022 9:25:53 GMT -5
At one point it was said that her team offered her services to sing. Of course her team didn't force her to do it, but she certainly wanted to put the blame on them when she regretted doing it.
If it is true that her team offered her services, then only proves their incompetence. It would be one thing if they were avid Trump supporters and wanted to make a stand for their beliefs - okay then I get it - but I don't see them as that at all. Moreover, Jackie was a minor at the time and may not have fully understood the possible outcomes. I do recall at the time there were other people getting all sort of backlash about appearing and some even dropped out. If Trump had called them, then you need to make a decision. But if they approached the Trump team for a spot, then it only shows why you need professional managers. They would never let her be placed in that train wreck of possibilities. Why would you even want your name put in that circus?
I want to make clear this is not some anti-Republican rant. There would be no such backlash for being in the Bush inauguration. There would also be backlash for being associated with a Democrat perceived as polarizing like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. You just don't volunteer to be associated with polarizing people unless you really believe in their cause.
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Post by donkey on May 13, 2022 9:35:42 GMT -5
Generally speaking, entertainers should avoid connections to politicians or political causes that are polarizing. Trump certainly fits the bill. Now if they offer the spot to you, you are unfortunately going to tick off somebody so you're between a rock and a hard place. However, if you volunteer your services, then there is managerial malpractice. The only exception is if the political causes at stake are very important to you and you want to take a stand. For example, Billie and Grace took a stand for abortion rights a few years ago and that is a polarizing issue but they both felt strongly on that issue. Also, their audiences and already expressed political views were consistent so no one was shocked by that development. With the Trump inauguration, I do not recall if the Evanchos stepped to the plate or if the White House invited them without any prior contact. At one point it was said that her team offered her services to sing. Yes, their team made the offer. It's a judgement call, but well worth it in my opinion. She really had nothing to lose...a dwindlng fan base and an opportunity to get internatinal exposure with over a billion people watching around the world. Sure it was polarized, but roughly half the domestic viewing audience was pro-Trump, so that's a huge pool to try and pull fans from. |
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Post by johnnyb on May 13, 2022 9:38:48 GMT -5
At one point it was said that her team offered her services to sing. Yes, their team made the offer. It's a judgement call, but well worth it in my opinion. She really had nothing to lose...a dwindlng fan base and an opportunity to get internatinal exposure with over a billion people watching around the world. Sure it was polarized, but roughly half the viewing audience was very pro Trump, so that's a huge pool to try and pull fans from. According to What Jackie said during that interview, Trump called her to offer the gig. I wonder who’s going to get the call for his 2025 inauguration ceremonies. |
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Post by donkey on May 13, 2022 9:40:06 GMT -5
Yes, their team made the offer. It's a judgement call, but well worth it in my opinion. She really had nothing to lose...a dwindlng fan base and an opportunity to get internatinal exposure with over a billion people watching around the world. Sure it was polarized, but roughly half the viewing audience was very pro Trump, so that's a huge pool to try and pull fans from. According to What Jackie said during that interview, Trump called her to offer the gig. Yes, but that was after her team made the offer to Trump's team. Trump's team was having trouble lining up an A lister to sing the anthem since most of them were anti-trump lefties. So Jackie's team decided, what the hell, let's make the offer. Jackie previously sang at one of Trump's events, so he was familiar with her. Jackie talked about all of that in an interview. |
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Post by richard on May 13, 2022 11:09:18 GMT -5
Re: Jackie and Trump
I think Jackie pretty well burned that bridge. Instead of being grateful about singing at his Inauguration, Jackie started apologizing for it. She should have kept her mouth shut she sure didn't owe anyone an apology.
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Post by Pin the Tail on May 13, 2022 13:58:32 GMT -5
Yes, their team made the offer. It's a judgement call, but well worth it in my opinion. She really had nothing to lose...a dwindlng fan base and an opportunity to get internatinal exposure with over a billion people watching around the world. Sure it was polarized, but roughly half the viewing audience was very pro Trump, so that's a huge pool to try and pull fans from. According to What Jackie said during that interview, Trump called her to offer the gig. I wonder who’s going to get the call for his 2025 inauguration ceremonies. You gotta be kidding. At any rate, it definitely won't be Jackie getting a call. Are you going to be waiting by your phone BR-549? Maybe Rudy Guiliani can do a reprise of his Masked Singer appearance (if he isn't dead or in jail by then). |
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Post by donkey on May 13, 2022 17:26:09 GMT -5
According to What Jackie said during that interview, Trump called her to offer the gig. I wonder who’s going to get the call for his 2025 inauguration ceremonies. You gotta be kidding. At any rate, it definitely won't be Jackie getting a call. Are you going to be waiting by your phone BR-549? Maybe Rudy Guiliani can do a reprise of his Masked Singer appearance (if he isn't dead or in jail by then). Jackie wont be asked to sing the anthem again at Trump's 2024 inauguration...they don't use the same singer again...its just not done. |
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