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Post by ChrisR on Dec 19, 2022 11:26:23 GMT -5
Cait admitted to having knowledge on how to scam fans with multiple accounts. This is very likely a scam, and here's how it works: 2 people are in on it. Let's call them Simsy and Busby, for the sake of the example. They own multiple copies of a "collectible" item, possibly real and acquired at a low price, but most likely counterfeit. And since the scam requires a sucker to work, that person is unlikely to detect whether the item is real or not. So let's say Simsy lists one of these items on eBay and Busby then buys it for a very high price, like $2,000. They then go to fan boards that would be interested in such an item and tout about how it sold for this large price. Someone at a fan board who doesn't have that item but would like to own it thinks the item is really valuable and in demand. Let's call this person Colty, just as a random name. So in a while, Simsy or Busby lists an identical item for significantly less than the previous one sold for, let's say $1,300. Colty sees this and think it is a great deal, as the prior similar item "sold" for $2,000. And he buys it, leaving Simsy and Busby to split a big profit on an item that is worth far far less, and probably counterfeit.The names in the example are purely coincidental and made up. But you get the picture. LOL. Instead of selling a cd its about selling a bipolar version of "truth". Gaslighting myself and other fans into believing that we are crazy (that if one likes Jackie that they are a troll, ott, etc) as Cait does to Colt in this post. "Hateful individual" in Colty's world = ""Truthful Individual" in the REAL world. LOL! Colty, I am still not entirely sure if you are just a cunning troll, a senile old fool, a big baby who never grew up, or just someone with some serious issues, but I will give you this helpful advice....see a doctor ASAP. Correct. For a real Jackie fan, the truth is unkind and anybody speaking the truth is high and mighty and thinking they are better than she is. Everything is perfect in the Jackieverse and only an attacking troll would suggest it is not. Colt is correct that Cait the Hate is a hateful individual. Its narcissism to think anyone knows the truth much less Cait (like her Mom called her a circus freak and numerous other lies). I doubt even a few at most actually knows the truth. Soc might have deleted the posts made last month by a guest "inside scoop" who brought up which city her Pittsburgh house is in and Rickys picture of either the house or a similar one but forgot to delete the post Cait made giving kudos to the stalker. He most certainly didn't bat an eye knowing a stalker found her house and knocked on the door, excuses and further gaslighting was made. Cait uses several bots to back up his bipolar "truth" and either defend it or pretend to disagree with it. The various bots that Cait uses are: Socal Fan donkey Bot of the Year btw 1guest GapFan amg1977 ChrisR as well as most guest names other than Guest 14 and Colt of course. Btw none of the bots wanna talk about estimations of the Pittsburgh show were from 2/3rds to 3/4 full. As I said before when the weather is mild, thats when more gigs should be booked. Sorry OTT msims, I'm just still me and not anyone else. You have yet to prove your theory. However, like many others in here, I clearly live inside of your head 24/7. |
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Post by Grace Fan on Dec 19, 2022 12:40:40 GMT -5
Cait admitted to having knowledge on how to scam fans with multiple accounts. This is very likely a scam, and here's how it works: 2 people are in on it. Let's call them Simsy and Busby, for the sake of the example. They own multiple copies of a "collectible" item, possibly real and acquired at a low price, but most likely counterfeit. And since the scam requires a sucker to work, that person is unlikely to detect whether the item is real or not. So let's say Simsy lists one of these items on eBay and Busby then buys it for a very high price, like $2,000. They then go to fan boards that would be interested in such an item and tout about how it sold for this large price. Someone at a fan board who doesn't have that item but would like to own it thinks the item is really valuable and in demand. Let's call this person Colty, just as a random name. So in a while, Simsy or Busby lists an identical item for significantly less than the previous one sold for, let's say $1,300. Colty sees this and think it is a great deal, as the prior similar item "sold" for $2,000. And he buys it, leaving Simsy and Busby to split a big profit on an item that is worth far far less, and probably counterfeit.The names in the example are purely coincidental and made up. But you get the picture. LOL. Instead of selling a cd its about selling a bipolar version of "truth". Gaslighting myself and other fans into believing that we are crazy (that if one likes Jackie that they are a troll, ott, etc) as Cait does to Colt in this post. "Hateful individual" in Colty's world = ""Truthful Individual" in the REAL world. LOL! Colty, I am still not entirely sure if you are just a cunning troll, a senile old fool, a big baby who never grew up, or just someone with some serious issues, but I will give you this helpful advice....see a doctor ASAP. Correct. For a real Jackie fan, the truth is unkind and anybody speaking the truth is high and mighty and thinking they are better than she is. Everything is perfect in the Jackieverse and only an attacking troll would suggest it is not. Colt is correct that Cait the Hate is a hateful individual. Its narcissism to think anyone knows the truth much less Cait (like her Mom called her a circus freak and numerous other lies). I doubt even a few at most actually knows the truth. Soc might have deleted the posts made last month by a guest "inside scoop" who brought up which city her Pittsburgh house is in and Rickys picture of either the house or a similar one but forgot to delete the post Cait made giving kudos to the stalker. He most certainly didn't bat an eye knowing a stalker found her house and knocked on the door, excuses and further gaslighting was made. Cait uses several bots to back up his bipolar "truth" and either defend it or pretend to disagree with it. The various bots that Cait uses are: Socal Fan donkey Bot of the Year btw 1guest GapFan amg1977 ChrisR as well as most guest names other than Guest 14 and Colt of course. Btw none of the bots wanna talk about estimations of the Pittsburgh show were from 2/3rds to 3/4 full. As I said before when the weather is mild, thats when more gigs should be booked. More delusions and childishness from msims. Perhaps one day you'll graduate from the first grade. |
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Post by donkey on Dec 19, 2022 12:45:32 GMT -5
Cait admitted to having knowledge on how to scam fans with multiple accounts. Instead of selling a cd its about selling a bipolar version of "truth". Gaslighting myself and other fans into believing that we are crazy (that if one likes Jackie that they are a troll, ott, etc) as Cait does to Colt in this post. Colt is correct that Cait the Hate is a hateful individual. Its narcissism to think anyone knows the truth much less Cait (like her Mom called her a circus freak and numerous other lies). I doubt even a few at most actually knows the truth. Soc might have deleted the posts made last month by a guest "inside scoop" who brought up which city her Pittsburgh house is in and Rickys picture of either the house or a similar one but forgot to delete the post Cait made giving kudos to the stalker. He most certainly didn't bat an eye knowing a stalker found her house and knocked on the door, excuses and further gaslighting was made. Cait uses several bots to back up his bipolar "truth" and either defend it or pretend to disagree with it. The various bots that Cait uses are: Socal Fan donkey Bot of the Year btw 1guest GapFan amg1977 ChrisR as well as most guest names other than Guest 14 and Colt of course. Btw none of the bots wanna talk about estimations of the Pittsburgh show were from 2/3rds to 3/4 full. As I said before when the weather is mild, thats when more gigs should be booked. More delusions and childishness from msims. Perhaps one day you'll graduate from the first grade. OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE OFFICE OF DONKEY: |
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Post by Disappointed on Dec 19, 2022 14:44:44 GMT -5
Donkey's reaction to winning the prestigious Bot Of The Year award from Simsy:
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Post by Pin the Tail on Dec 19, 2022 15:04:07 GMT -5
Please tell me it wasn't you licking his fingers! No telling what that Tail is capable of but more then likely he was too busy with the window licking. 😅 Unlike your friends, I don't do windows. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Dec 19, 2022 15:18:50 GMT -5
msims says:
"The various bots that Cait uses are:
Socal Fan
donkey Bot of the Year btw
1guest
GapFan
amg1977
ChrisR
as well as most guest names other than Guest 14 and Colt of course."
Two of the various bots that msims (Bot of the Year) uses are :
Coltie
Guest 14, as well as other extreme OTT's. There just can't be more that one as extreme and on the spectrum as msims. Not possible.
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Post by Caitlyn on Dec 19, 2022 15:45:23 GMT -5
Simsy pudding puppy, there is no substitute for Caitlyn.  |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Dec 19, 2022 16:27:43 GMT -5
Unlike your friends, I don't do windows. Let me correct that. It should say: "Unlike your IMAGINARY friends, I don't do windows." |
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Post by donkey on Dec 19, 2022 18:28:53 GMT -5
Donkey's reaction to winning the prestigious Bot Of The Year award from Simsy: It was an honor just to be nominated. |
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Post by Grace Fan on Dec 20, 2022 16:06:55 GMT -5
Grace was in the studio in NY yesterday, and it looks like she's back again today.
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Post by Socal Fan on Dec 20, 2022 21:12:11 GMT -5
Btw none of the bots wanna talk about estimations of the Pittsburgh show were from 2/3rds to 3/4 full. I would love to talk about that. The estimates of 2/3 to 3/4 full were indicative of attendance but not necessarily paid attendance since there is no way to tell who paid and who got in for free. So how do we estimate the paid attendance? From the ticket seat maps. This is the seat map at 7:55 pm on Dec 10th, 5 mins before the show started:  By my count, Jackie sold 462 tickets. (Anyone is welcome to check my count since I could have easily miscounted.) As I have explained previously, the seat count must be accurate because if it is not, tickets would be double sold and there would be problems all over the theater. Tickets sold at various times in the last 2 weeks: Dec 10 - 462 (Socal fan at 7:55 pm) Dec 10 - 456 (johnnyb at 4:19 pm) Dec 09 - 460 (Guest 4) Dec 03 - 389 approx (johnnyb, unchanged from Nov 30) Nov 30 - 389 (johnnyb) Clearly, there was no surge of ticket sales, either in the last few days or the last few minutes. I monitored ticket sales at the City Winery concerts and there were no surges of ticket sales, either in the last few days or the last few minutes as well. This makes sense - if you are a Jackie fan, you will always want to buy a ticket as early as possible. There is never any reason to wait since the better seats always sell first. The theory of a surge of walk-ins is pure fantasy and never made any sense. So why was attendance estimated at 2/3 to 3/4 full? Because empty theaters are depressing and venues are always happy to give out free admission to insiders (volunteers, staff, donors and their families). It costs them nothing to give out tickets that will never be sold. For example: librarymusichall.com/frequently-asked-questions-faqs
How Do I Become A Volunteer?
Chances are if you’ve been to a show at the Carnegie of Homestead’s Music Hall, you’ve interacted with one of the many volunteers who provide a welcoming environment. Dressed in white and black, they tackle questions from “where is the closest restroom” to “how long is the intermission?” The venue’s operations are enriched by over 50-60 volunteers, from college students to seniors, to support a wide variety of before/during/after show needs.Since the show was less than half sold, I'll bet that all these volunteers and their families got in for free. Plus staff and donors. Plus Jackie's friends and family. |
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Post by Site Line Illusion on Dec 20, 2022 22:27:51 GMT -5
My guess is whoever estimated attendance wasn't exaggerating, just being human. Your eyes see the things that pop out from a background (like heads and color) and your brain fills in the gaps. We can only take in so much information, and unless you stand there and study the spaces between and behind people, you're just going to see heads. Five-hundred heads behind you in a theater is a sea of people to the eye.
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Post by donkey on Dec 20, 2022 22:49:02 GMT -5
My guess is whoever estimated attendance wasn't exaggerating, just being human. Your eyes see the things that pop out from a background (like heads and color) and your brain fills in the gaps. We can only take in so much information, and unless you stand there and study the spaces between and behind people, you're just going to see heads. Five-hundred heads behind you in a theater is a sea of people to the eye. I agree...I did that at the Nashville concert. My section, was full...so the place seemed full. However, I know there were at least some empty tables towards the back, away from the stage.. How many I dont know because I wasn't checking. I just knew when I looked immediately around me, there were rows of tables full of people. and when I got up to leave, so did everyone else, so people were wandering all over the place. It can be very deceiving how full the place really is. I made the comment that the place seemed pretty full, however, we know how many tickets were sold and it was less than half of the seats. There were plenty of people around me, over a hundred...so it tricked me to some degree. It was a Site Line Illusion. lol I've never heard it called that before, but it fits perfectly. I was aware of the concept, just not that name for it. |
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Post by Disappointed on Dec 20, 2022 23:01:45 GMT -5
Btw none of the bots wanna talk about estimations of the Pittsburgh show were from 2/3rds to 3/4 full. I would love to talk about that. The estimates of 2/3 to 3/4 full were indicative of attendance but not necessarily paid attendance since there is no way to tell who paid and who got in for free. So how do we estimate the paid attendance? From the ticket seat maps. This is the seat map at 7:55 pm on Dec 10th, 5 mins before the show started: By my count, Jackie sold 462 tickets. (Anyone is welcome to check my count since I could have easily miscounted.) As I have explained previously, the seat count must be accurate because if it is not, tickets would be double sold and there would be problems all over the theater. Tickets sold at various times in the last 2 weeks: Dec 10 - 462 (Socal fan at 7:55 pm) Dec 10 - 456 (johnnyb at 4:19 pm) Dec 09 - 460 (Guest 4) Dec 03 - 389 approx (johnnyb, unchanged from Nov 30) Nov 30 - 389 (johnnyb) Clearly, there was no surge of ticket sales, either in the last few days or the last few minutes. I monitored ticket sales at the City Winery concerts and there were no surges of ticket sales, either in the last few days or the last few minutes as well. This makes sense - if you are a Jackie fan, you will always want to buy a ticket as early as possible. There is never any reason to wait since the better seats always sell first. The theory of a surge of walk-ins is pure fantasy and never made any sense. So why was attendance estimated at 2/3 to 3/4 full? Because empty theaters are depressing and venues are always happy to give out free admission to insiders (volunteers, staff, donors and their families). It costs them nothing to give out tickets that will never be sold. For example: librarymusichall.com/frequently-asked-questions-faqs
How Do I Become A Volunteer?
Chances are if you’ve been to a show at the Carnegie of Homestead’s Music Hall, you’ve interacted with one of the many volunteers who provide a welcoming environment. Dressed in white and black, they tackle questions from “where is the closest restroom” to “how long is the intermission?” The venue’s operations are enriched by over 50-60 volunteers, from college students to seniors, to support a wide variety of before/during/after show needs.Since the show was less than half sold, I'll bet that all these volunteers and their families got in for free. Plus staff and donors. Plus Jackie's friends and family. This analysis definitely puts you in the running for the extremely coveted Bot Of The Year award, currently held by donkey. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Dec 20, 2022 23:08:38 GMT -5
My guess is whoever estimated attendance wasn't exaggerating, just being human. Your eyes see the things that pop out from a background (like heads and color) and your brain fills in the gaps. I agree...I did that at the Nashville concert. My section, was full...so the place seemed full. I agree that there is an optical illusion of more people than are actually there. But I also think that the venue gives out unpaid tickets to enhance the size of the audience. It costs them nothing, it rewards volunteers and staff, and it greatly improves the atmosphere of the concert. Win-win for everyone. |
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