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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 9:20:50 GMT -5
Question off the top of my head: Isn't it true that hitting #1 on Billboard Classical for just one week suggests the album was simply the one that got the most initial orders from stores that cycle? It seems to me that it doesn't mean much unless the album stays on the chart for more than one week. Seems to me that Wallmart and Target orders are enough to make an album chart for the week if there were no larger order in that genre. So yeah, Jackie is popular enough to generate that much, but there wasn't enough demand to prompt a restock order – otherwise she would have charted more than one week. Is that close to correct at least? That's right, the first week sales include all of the pre-orders so it's a higher number. Bocelli had been #1 on the classical chart for 20-30 weeks, I forget exactly how long, but it was a long time, and Jackie knocked him down for that one week, but he went right back to #1. So by that point, how many could Bocelli have been selling? I'd guess not a heck of a lot. I suspect that being #1 on the "Classical charts" is pretty insignificant. I've seen Beethoven be at or near the top, and his music is 200 years old. lol |
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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 9:24:46 GMT -5
She's been really quiet for more than two weeks...I hope we hear more from the Jackster soon. Screw that, I hope we hear from the Coltster 24/7, a day without hearing from the Colthead is like a day without sunshine. 🌞 |
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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 9:32:44 GMT -5
Someone on the other forum posted this...I think its a great idea for Jackie. I don't know about 12, but she could certainly do a handful of Xmas concerts you would think
"I'm dismayed that Jackie schedules only one Christmas concert per year. I think Jackie could successfully pair with college or professional orchestras for a dozen or so Christmas concerts per year between Thanksgiving and Christmas either as a guest star or in her own show. These shows could be an "evergreen" staple of her schedule."
And, speaking of Evergreen...would love to hear Jackie sing that beautiful song. She like to sing slow songs...well, is certainly slow. LOL
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Post by Colt46 on Jun 17, 2023 10:24:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the insults Johnnyb, I am sorry my post offended you, I guess you don’t believe in forgiveness do you , so go ahead with your insults! I will not be attacking you anymore because it’s wrong to do that, I wish you felt the same!
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Post by Colt46 on Jun 17, 2023 10:30:39 GMT -5
I also think Jackie could do several Christmas 🎄 concerts, she is so great at singing that type of music! A orchestra and Jackie go so well together!
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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 11:34:35 GMT -5
So, someone in other forum suggested that Jackie will be doing more City Winery shows. He offered up that Jackie has started following the Chicago City Winery on her FB. Interesting. Wasn't Chicago one of her better selling Winery shows last fall? And, there are a few more winery locations now than there were last time she did the tour, including St Louis and Pittsburgh.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 17, 2023 11:40:34 GMT -5
Her voice is as special as ever Sadly for Jackie very few people agree with you. Which is why OHN went platinum and COT went ... well, wherever COT went. |
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Post by BOGC on Jun 17, 2023 11:55:08 GMT -5
Someone on the other forum posted this...I think its a great idea for Jackie. I don't know about 12, but she could certainly do a handful of Xmas concerts you would think "I'm dismayed that Jackie schedules only one Christmas concert per year. I think Jackie could successfully pair with college or professional orchestras for a dozen or so Christmas concerts per year between Thanksgiving and Christmas either as a guest star or in her own show. These shows could be an "evergreen" staple of her schedule." And, speaking of Evergreen...would love to hear Jackie sing that beautiful song. She like to sing slow songs...well, is certainly slow. LOL Prior to COVID, Jackie at least sometimes had up to five December concerts. "Heavenly Christmas (2011) specifically had a three stop "mini-tour". While in non-pandemic years, at least one was the norm (so yes, she knows Christmas concerts are a sure thing), I suspect how many is subject to not only ability to book them, but personal schedule conflicts too. I've also thought "Evergreen" would sound good with her voice. If I ever get that AI voice changer working (I may or may not bother, looks rather involved and with setup instructions that assume information not included*), that's one of just a few I'd try to find out how it might sound. Given controversy around AI voice swaps, I wouldn't post it, but if it turned out well, I'd keep it on my phone in case the subject of "what might it sound like if Jackie sang this" came up in conversation. * a prerequisite, a tool to separate solo voice from accompaniment (two output files if one wants both), seems to work well on the Mac; even that can be a bit interesting. |
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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 12:07:05 GMT -5
Someone on the other forum posted this...I think its a great idea for Jackie. I don't know about 12, but she could certainly do a handful of Xmas concerts you would think "I'm dismayed that Jackie schedules only one Christmas concert per year. I think Jackie could successfully pair with college or professional orchestras for a dozen or so Christmas concerts per year between Thanksgiving and Christmas either as a guest star or in her own show. These shows could be an "evergreen" staple of her schedule." And, speaking of Evergreen...would love to hear Jackie sing that beautiful song. She like to sing slow songs...well, is certainly slow. LOL Prior to COVID, Jackie at least sometimes had up to five December concerts. "Heavenly Christmas (2011) specifically had a three stop "mini-tour". While in non-pandemic years, at least one was the norm (so yes, she knows Christmas concerts are a sure thing), I suspect how many is subject to not only ability to book them, but personal schedule conflicts too. I've also thought "Evergreen" would sound good with her voice. If I ever get that AI voice changer working (I may or may not bother, looks rather involved and with setup instructions that assume information not included*), that's one of just a few I'd try to find out how it might sound. Given controversy around AI voice swaps, I wouldn't post it, but if it turned out well, I'd keep it on my phone in case the subject of "what might it sound like if Jackie sang this" came up in conversation. * a prerequisite, a tool to separate solo voice from accompaniment (two output files if one wants both), seems to work well on the Mac; even that can be a bit interesting. If you ever manage to put that together, I sure would like to hear it. |
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Post by BOGC on Jun 17, 2023 12:07:13 GMT -5
Her voice is as special as ever Sadly for Jackie very few people agree with you. Which is why OHN went platinum and COT went ... well, wherever COT went. Her classical voice with songs that show it off is most impressive, but she's gotten quite good at doing other genres in a manner appropriate to the genres rather than everything sounding similar. For instance, in all the songs on TMS, her voice (alone, not the "whole package" and name recognition and everything else) compared well with the originals (I listened to the originals of any I wasn't already quite familiar with). But as a number of people here seem to say, even frog voices like Dylan or Springsteen did well because they wrote their own material, came up the hard way, and (Springsteen, at least) had an entertainer personality. The people of that opinion are probably not tone-sensitive, just want a rush of hormones or the feeling they're on the side of fashionable issues or some such foolishness. In other words, wealth depends on pandering to a lowbrow majority. That's why socialists succeed even though their approach is inherently broken, sheeple are too darn widespread. (we probably need something 10x worse than COVID to thin the herd) Oh, for the good old days when royalty and nobility supported the fine arts, and left the popular music to the peasants. Hmm, sounds suspiciously like a "private event" to me. :-) |
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Post by BOGC on Jun 17, 2023 12:15:57 GMT -5
If you ever manage to put that together, I sure would like to hear it. Double unlikely, since I may not bother (it would take at least hours to set up, let alone train) and wouldn't let anyone hear it except in person (only way to keep it off the Internet). Another one I'd like to hear, a bit more uptempo: Others: Eres Tu (Mocedades, but use the Anacani cover (yeah, Lawrence Welk, don't knock all of it) since it's for a solo singer) and Hijo de la Luna (Mecano). |
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Post by donkey on Jun 17, 2023 12:28:41 GMT -5
If you ever manage to put that together, I sure would like to hear it. Double unlikely, since I may not bother (it would take at least hours to set up, let alone train) and wouldn't let anyone hear it except in person (only way to keep it off the Internet). Another one I'd like to hear, a bit more uptempo: Others: Eres Tu (Mocedades, but use the Anacani cover (yeah, Lawrence Welk, don't knock all of it) since it's for a solo singer) and Hijo de la Luna (Mecano). Never heard that song. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 17, 2023 12:48:47 GMT -5
In other words, wealth depends on pandering to a lowbrow majority. That's why socialists succeed even though their approach is inherently broken, sheeple are too darn widespread. ... Oh, for the good old days when royalty and nobility supported the fine arts, and left the popular music to the peasants. You need a refresher class in economics. The capitalist system is the one where people get rich pandering to the majority. The richest singers are the ones who attract the most fans. The consumer is king. That is what capitalism is all about. "Oh, for the good old days when royalty and nobility supported the fine arts, and left the popular music to the peasants." But that's exactly the system we have now. Fine arts, like classical music and ballet are supported by the government and the 1% with their tax deductible contributions. Popular music is supported by the peasants, the 99%. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 17, 2023 13:08:00 GMT -5
Sadly for Jackie very few people agree with you. Which is why OHN went platinum and COT went ... well, wherever COT went. Her classical voice with songs that show it off is most impressive, but she's gotten quite good at doing other genres in a manner appropriate to the genres rather than everything sounding similar. For instance, in all the songs on TMS, her voice (alone, not the "whole package" and name recognition and everything else) compared well with the originals (I listened to the originals of any I wasn't already quite familiar with). But as a number of people here seem to say, even frog voices like Dylan or Springsteen did well because they wrote their own material, came up the hard way, and (Springsteen, at least) had an entertainer personality. The people of that opinion are probably not tone-sensitive, just want a rush of hormones or the feeling they're on the side of fashionable issues or some such foolishness. In other words, wealth depends on pandering to a lowbrow majority. That's why socialists succeed even though their approach is inherently broken, sheeple are too darn widespread. (we probably need something 10x worse than COVID to thin the herd) Oh, for the good old days when royalty and nobility supported the fine arts, and left the popular music to the peasants. Hmm, sounds suspiciously like a "private event" to me. :-) So how does that differ from the snobs who attend classical theater and operas with their noses in the air because it makes them appear as if they have a lot of class? |
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 17, 2023 13:11:06 GMT -5
Her classical voice with songs that show it off is most impressive, but she's gotten quite good at doing other genres in a manner appropriate to the genres rather than everything sounding similar. For instance, in all the songs on TMS, her voice (alone, not the "whole package" and name recognition and everything else) compared well with the originals (I listened to the originals of any I wasn't already quite familiar with). But as a number of people here seem to say, even frog voices like Dylan or Springsteen did well because they wrote their own material, came up the hard way, and (Springsteen, at least) had an entertainer personality. The people of that opinion are probably not tone-sensitive, just want a rush of hormones or the feeling they're on the side of fashionable issues or some such foolishness. In other words, wealth depends on pandering to a lowbrow majority. That's why socialists succeed even though their approach is inherently broken, sheeple are too darn widespread. (we probably need something 10x worse than COVID to thin the herd) Oh, for the good old days when royalty and nobility supported the fine arts, and left the popular music to the peasants. Hmm, sounds suspiciously like a "private event" to me. :-) So how does that differ from the snobs who attend classical theater and operas with their noses in the air because it makes them appear as if they have a lot of class? Most people here have class, unfortunately it’s all low. 😯 |
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