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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2023 10:03:49 GMT -5
Again you're trying to gaslight people into buying that her career was handled well and her career is doing just fine. Ive told you before: do not quote the entire body of my post just to type one sentence of BS. With your JDS you have not come close to proving either of those claims under your various other identities. |
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 11, 2023 10:12:48 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2023 10:13:14 GMT -5
msims , stop 🛑 drink the cool - aid , Nobody is perfect not even Jackie! No, she's not, no one is, but the good news is that she knows it and has come to accept it. But a perfectionist would work to be as good as possible and would take singing lessons to learn the proper techniques to achieve that. I think Jackie's voice is fine, especially for the genres she is interested in these days. If she wanted to be a successful opera singer, I would agree that trainng would be useful...where technically correct singing is more recognized and important. But not in the genres she is interested in pursuing these days. Being a technically correct singer isn't important in genres like pop, country, etc. There are countless examples of successful artists who are not only not trained, but in some cases not very good singers. But they are unique and pleasing to fans in the way the vocalize. I think with Jackie it's all about reinventing herself, both in terms catchy, original music and persona on stage. I don't see the later changing, so in her case it would need to be all about the music she sings and the exposure she gets singing those songs. It's a long shot. |
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2023 10:17:59 GMT -5
Oh boy...vacation from what? LOL Don't you usually take vacation from a job or going to school? |
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 11, 2023 10:19:29 GMT -5
Again you're trying to gaslight people into buying that her career was handled well and her career is doing just fine. Ive told you before: do not quote the entire body of my post just to type one sentence of BS. With your JDS you have not come close to proving either of those claims under your various other identities. Open your own forum and then you can tell me what to do. |
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2023 10:20:48 GMT -5
The problem with eulenspiegel is he is a snob when it comes to performers like Jackie and Karolina Protsenko the violist who by the way has 10 million viewers on her Facebook page!So he is going against 10 million fans who disagree with him ! You are correct Colt. |
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Post by Nopera Coach on Jul 11, 2023 10:30:00 GMT -5
Here we go with the old myth that Jackie doesn’t need training, coaching or practice. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard Jackie fans spout this idea that a vocal coach will change her voice. Jackie’s voice is her voice! It belongs to her. What coaching can do for her is to help her sustain a note or phrase without running out of breath. It can help her project when she needs to, instead of always sounding like she’s never sung outside her bedroom. It can help her to find places in her voice that she never knew were there (she did this very thing while recording The Debut). A vocal coach is not going to try to make her sound like Beverly Sills, or anyone else. She will always sound like Jackie, but better. Jackie is not an opera singer, she is a singer. Singers are musicians, and musicians know how to control and get the most out of their instrument. Stop equating skill-building with snobbery.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2023 10:39:22 GMT -5
Here we go with the old myth that Jackie doesn’t need training, coaching or practice. For me, the question is whether training, coaching or practice will improve her career in any significant way. I don't see how it would, since what she needs is better songwriting ability and more charisma. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 11, 2023 10:39:48 GMT -5
Here we go with the old myth that Jackie doesn’t need training, coaching or practice. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard Jackie fans spout this idea that a vocal coach will change her voice. Jackie’s voice is her voice! It belongs to her. What coaching can do for her is to help her sustain a note or phrase without running out of breath. It can help her project when she needs to, instead of always sounding like she’s never sung outside her bedroom. It can help her to find places in her voice that she never knew were there (she did this very thing while recording The Debut). A vocal coach is not going to try to make her sound like Beverly Sills, or anyone else. She will always sound like Jackie, but better. Jackie is not an opera singer, she is a singer. Singers are musicians, and musicians know how to control and get the most out of their instrument. Stop equating skill-building with snobbery. Agree. If Jackie didn't want to work on improving her technique, fine, that's her business, she was satisfied with her singing, but a perfectionist would never stop trying to improve. |
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2023 10:40:46 GMT -5
Here we go with the old myth that Jackie doesn’t need training, coaching or practice. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard Jackie fans spout this idea that a vocal coach will change her voice. Jackie’s voice is her voice! It belongs to her. What coaching can do for her is to help her sustain a note or phrase without running out of breath. It can help her project when she needs to, instead of always sounding like she’s never sung outside her bedroom. It can help her to find places in her voice that she never knew were there (she did this very thing while recording The Debut). A vocal coach is not going to try to make her sound like Beverly Sills, or anyone else. She will always sound like Jackie, but better. Jackie is not an opera singer, she is a singer. Singers are musicians, and musicians know how to control and get the most out of their instrument. Stop equating skill-building with snobbery. It's a moot point in Jackie's case....she's 23 yrs old, has had a full career by the age of 18, and seems to have no interest in voice lessons. And you saying she sounds like she never sang out of her bedroom is snobbery. I don't think she sounds like she never sang out of her bedroom, and neither do most who have heard her. I have no doubt she could improve her singing technically...but she sings just fine for the average fan. Besides, you can imagine how hard it would be for someone who has achieved the kind of success Jackie once did to think she need voice lessons.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 11, 2023 10:41:33 GMT -5
Well Jackie has worked hard at doing nothing this year, it must be tiring not performing at concert venues!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 11, 2023 10:45:09 GMT -5
Jackie has learned from an early age on what work ethic is from her parents, Jackie is mimicking dear old Dad!
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2023 10:48:16 GMT -5
Well Jackie has worked hard at doing nothing this year, it must be tiring not performing at concert venues! It does take a lot out of you Colty! LOL
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Post by colt46 on Jul 11, 2023 11:00:58 GMT -5
It’s a honor msims disliking my post, it is a badge of honor!
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2023 11:04:51 GMT -5
Well so much for working on that new music:: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cstm3QBuIdz Open your own forum and then you can tell me what to do.
Its called etiquette. Learn it and move on already, Cait. If Jackie didn't want to work on Again this is gaslighting and you just contradicted yourself. Jackie is a perfectionist so she has already critiqued herself and that is how she has improved. It’s a honor msims disliking my post, it is a badge of honor! If you feel honored in stabbing her in the back everyday, then you're simply a disgrace. Shes worked very hard and you know it. Smarten up. |
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