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Post by msims on May 30, 2023 16:09:35 GMT -5
MsMojo got it right:
All of the Stars (7,673,983 on spotify and 4,487,724 views on youtube) and The Masked Singer unmasking clips were used
#2: Jackie Evancho
Jackie Evancho proves that you don’t need to finish first to be successful. Despite strong reviews, Jackie lost season five to Michael Grimm, but she went on to a more prosperous musical career. Her debut EP, “O Holy Night”, was a record-breaking album - it debuted at #2 and made Jackie both the youngest solo artist to debut in the top 10 and the youngest solo artist to go platinum. She sustained the hot streak with “Dream with Me”, an album that made her the youngest artist to debut in the UK top five. And to top it off, her album “Two Hearts” became her seventh consecutive number one on the Billboard Classical chart. While the late 2010s brought about some personal struggles, Evancho was able to return to performing in the 2020s with an appearance on “The Masked Singer”.
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Post by Joe Vote on May 31, 2023 9:57:29 GMT -5
MsMojo got it right: All of the Stars (7,673,983 on spotify and 4,487,724 views on youtube) and The Masked Singer unmasking clips were used #2: Jackie Evancho Jackie Evancho proves that you don’t need to finish first to be successful. Despite strong reviews, Jackie lost season five to Michael Grimm, but she went on to a more prosperous musical career. Her debut EP, “O Holy Night”, was a record-breaking album - it debuted at #2 and made Jackie both the youngest solo artist to debut in the top 10 and the youngest solo artist to go platinum. She sustained the hot streak with “Dream with Me”, an album that made her the youngest artist to debut in the UK top five. And to top it off, her album “Two Hearts” became her seventh consecutive number one on the Billboard Classical chart. While the late 2010s brought about some personal struggles, Evancho was able to return to performing in the 2020s with an appearance on “The Masked Singer”. ""Classical chart "" means little when counting numbers of sales , sales is what counts . The masked singer event had Jackie on because of Nick Cannon , the idea behind the show was to have people not expected to sing good , a surprise to people and to have a big time singer on was a insult to show . |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 31, 2023 10:30:03 GMT -5
MsMojo got it right: All of the Stars (7,673,983 on spotify and 4,487,724 views on youtube) and The Masked Singer unmasking clips were used #2: Jackie Evancho Jackie Evancho proves that you don’t need to finish first to be successful. Despite strong reviews, Jackie lost season five to Michael Grimm, but she went on to a more prosperous musical career. Her debut EP, “O Holy Night”, was a record-breaking album - it debuted at #2 and made Jackie both the youngest solo artist to debut in the top 10 and the youngest solo artist to go platinum. She sustained the hot streak with “Dream with Me”, an album that made her the youngest artist to debut in the UK top five. And to top it off, her album “Two Hearts” became her seventh consecutive number one on the Billboard Classical chart. While the late 2010s brought about some personal struggles, Evancho was able to return to performing in the 2020s with an appearance on “The Masked Singer”. ""Classical chart "" means little when counting numbers of sales , sales is what counts . The masked singer event had Jackie on because of Nick Cannon , the idea behind the show was to have people not expected to sing good , a surprise to people and to have a big time singer on was a insult to show . As far as I'm concerned, the only talent shows that make sense are when singers compete with singers and dancers compete with dancers. I never understood the point of the Masked Singer since most of the contestants are not singers, they're celebrities, politicians, actors, etc. Completely pointless. And the Got Talents Shows are just as pointless, how can you choose between a very good singer, a very good ventriloquist, a very good magician, etc.? I don't think they should even include singers, they can compete on The Voice and American Idol. |
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Post by BOGC on May 31, 2023 10:34:08 GMT -5
The masked singer event had Jackie on because of Nick Cannon , the idea behind the show was to have people not expected to sing good , a surprise to people and to have a big time singer on was a insult to show . Not even close. Off the top of my head, Turtle and Astronaut and Mouse and even Rhino (and others) were established singers; and Mouse was downright obvious. It's a mix, some singers, some ringers (a few of which turn out to be better than expected, but probably entertaining even if not musical). Closer to what you describe are the _GT shows. Susan Boyle was maximum dowdy in her first appearance (even less easily dowdy folks like FORTE start out scruffy), to maximize the impact of the unexpected talent. Exception: Darci didn't start out scruffy, just a bit overwhelmed, to be expected at that age. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 31, 2023 11:00:01 GMT -5
The masked singer event had Jackie on because of Nick Cannon , the idea behind the show was to have people not expected to sing good , a surprise to people and to have a big time singer on was a insult to show . Not even close. Off the top of my head, Turtle and Astronaut and Mouse and even Rhino (and others) were established singers; and Mouse was downright obvious. It's a mix, some singers, some ringers (a few of which turn out to be better than expected, but probably entertaining even if not musical). Closer to what you describe are the _GT shows. Susan Boyle was maximum dowdy in her first appearance (even less easily dowdy folks like FORTE start out scruffy), to maximize the impact of the unexpected talent. Exception: Darci didn't start out scruffy, just a bit overwhelmed, to be expected at that age. But a lot of Jackie's OTT's thought that she was the best performer ever on the show, but was voted off so fast because people wanted to find out who she was. If that's the case, talent has nothing to do with the show. |
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Post by BOGC on May 31, 2023 11:15:00 GMT -5
Not even close. Off the top of my head, Turtle and Astronaut and Mouse and even Rhino (and others) were established singers; and Mouse was downright obvious. It's a mix, some singers, some ringers (a few of which turn out to be better than expected, but probably entertaining even if not musical). Closer to what you describe are the _GT shows. Susan Boyle was maximum dowdy in her first appearance (even less easily dowdy folks like FORTE start out scruffy), to maximize the impact of the unexpected talent. Exception: Darci didn't start out scruffy, just a bit overwhelmed, to be expected at that age. But a lot of Jackie's OTT's thought that she was the best performer ever on the show, but was voted off so fast because people wanted to find out who she was. If that's the case, talent has nothing to do with the show. The show has made a point that they can accommodate those not available for the entire filming schedule. What they don't say is that those will necessarily be voted off early. Jackie had a prior conflicting concert that she couldn't or wouldn't reschedule (which was the right thing to do, even if she would have liked to have seen how much further she could have gone...probably 3rd). Nick even implied that sort of thing when Banana (Bret Michaels) was revealed, asking how he could manage to be on the show with his tour immediately upcoming. Talent may be a factor, but there are other factors that are not advertised, and rarely acknowledged at all. Host, panel, and contestants all play along with that. edit: it is mainly entertainment (and ultimately a way of selling commercials, of course); any resemblance to a transparent or fair competition is mostly illusion. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 31, 2023 12:41:16 GMT -5
But a lot of Jackie's OTT's thought that she was the best performer ever on the show, but was voted off so fast because people wanted to find out who she was. If that's the case, talent has nothing to do with the show. The show has made a point that they can accommodate those not available for the entire filming schedule. What they don't say is that those will necessarily be voted off early. Jackie had a prior conflicting concert that she couldn't or wouldn't reschedule (which was the right thing to do, even if she would have liked to have seen how much further she could have gone...probably 3rd). Nick even implied that sort of thing when Banana (Bret Michaels) was revealed, asking how he could manage to be on the show with his tour immediately upcoming. Talent may be a factor, but there are other factors that are not advertised, and rarely acknowledged at all. Host, panel, and contestants all play along with that. edit: it is mainly entertainment (and ultimately a way of selling commercials, of course); any resemblance to a transparent or fair competition is mostly illusion. I don't buy that. If people knew they wouldn't stand a chance because they had something big lined up, they wouldn't bother. Those shows are all pre-taped in advance so schedules can be accommodated. |
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Post by BOGC on May 31, 2023 14:28:39 GMT -5
The show has made a point that they can accommodate those not available for the entire filming schedule. What they don't say is that those will necessarily be voted off early. Jackie had a prior conflicting concert that she couldn't or wouldn't reschedule (which was the right thing to do, even if she would have liked to have seen how much further she could have gone...probably 3rd). Nick even implied that sort of thing when Banana (Bret Michaels) was revealed, asking how he could manage to be on the show with his tour immediately upcoming. Talent may be a factor, but there are other factors that are not advertised, and rarely acknowledged at all. Host, panel, and contestants all play along with that. edit: it is mainly entertainment (and ultimately a way of selling commercials, of course); any resemblance to a transparent or fair competition is mostly illusion. I don't buy that. If people knew they wouldn't stand a chance because they had something big lined up, they wouldn't bother. Those shows are all pre-taped in advance so schedules can be accommodated. They are pre-recorded, but over just a very few (maybe two or three) weeks. Remember, it's not just one contestant to pre-record, but how it all fits together. A bit difficult to perform and judge at separate tapings, esp. with audience present; too many continuity issues. The schedule conflict was pointed out at the time, given some speculation that she might be one of the contestants based on the proximity of where Jackie was staying according to a social media post - before the shows being recorded ever ran on TV. A short and intense taping schedule actually reduces conflicts (smaller area of overlap). edit: contestants aren't getting much beyond expenses anyway; all they expect is a chance to do something unexpected (outside of any typecast) and hopefully make a respectable showing of it. Even those kicked off early did that, if they were entertaining. And in season 3, at least two (Chaka Khan and Dionne Warwick) were ringers in the sense that they were obvious and not expected to last long not for lack of ability, but because they were only there for variety and to increase expectations for the less obvious. edit 2: perhaps the best measure of value to the performer is how many times they appear, being able to show some depth or variety before going out. All of the top 3 in season 3 appeared 9 times. Jackie at 5th (with one or two days of schedule conflict toward the end) appeared 7 times. |
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Post by Beachguy on May 31, 2023 14:33:33 GMT -5
""Classical chart "" means little when counting numbers of sales , sales is what counts . The masked singer event had Jackie on because of Nick Cannon , the idea behind the show was to have people not expected to sing good , a surprise to people and to have a big time singer on was a insult to show . As far as I'm concerned, the only talent shows that make sense are when singers compete with singers and dancers compete with dancers. I never understood the point of the Masked Singer since most of the contestants are not singers, they're celebrities, politicians, actors, etc. Completely pointless. And the Got Talents Shows are just as pointless, how can you choose between a very good singer, a very good ventriloquist, a very good magician, etc.? I don't think they should even include singers, they can compete on The Voice and American Idol. I completely agree but the show is about the phony acting judges ? and getting all kinds of viewers from home for all kinds of acts , i don't watch except in passing stations . |
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Post by BOGC on May 31, 2023 14:42:40 GMT -5
I completely agree but the show is about the phony acting judges ? and getting all kinds of viewers from home for all kinds of acts , i don't watch except in passing stations . There may still be some standards for game shows (which had their share of scandals and rigging at one time), but these aren't actually game shows. It's _entertainment_, and only significant for enjoyment and commercial purposes, not as an actual head-to-head evaluation. Even among just singers, sufficiently different genres are like apples and oranges. Wherever there's so much hype, it's less about talent alone and more about advancing the total marketability. There are real talent competitions, but these shows are at best a compromise between genuine competition and what sells the SHOW, not the acts. |
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Post by 1 Guest on May 31, 2023 14:44:05 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, the only talent shows that make sense are when singers compete with singers and dancers compete with dancers. I never understood the point of the Masked Singer since most of the contestants are not singers, they're celebrities, politicians, actors, etc. Completely pointless. And the Got Talents Shows are just as pointless, how can you choose between a very good singer, a very good ventriloquist, a very good magician, etc.? I don't think they should even include singers, they can compete on The Voice and American Idol. I completely agree but the show is about the phony acting judges ? and getting all kinds of viewers from home for all kinds of acts , i don't watch except in passing stations . Except for the first 2 seasons of AI I've never watched a single full episode of any of the talent shows. When Jackie's on, I watch her performance on YouTube and videos of other contestants that are posted here. Yes, the judges make me sick, they are so freakin fake I could slap them. |
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Post by Beachguy on May 31, 2023 14:44:12 GMT -5
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Post by Beachguy on May 31, 2023 14:50:05 GMT -5
I believe that talent above was on AGT with JME , she was a very very busy girl for years , don't know about now .Her first album is still unwapped in a box with all the talents i thought could be big , i don't even know who all i have , never played them all , yes even JME ones .
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Post by richard on May 31, 2023 15:38:58 GMT -5
But a lot of Jackie's OTT's thought that she was the best performer ever on the show, but was voted off so fast because people wanted to find out who she was. If that's the case, talent has nothing to do with the show. The show has made a point that they can accommodate those not available for the entire filming schedule. What they don't say is that those will necessarily be voted off early. Jackie had a prior conflicting concert that she couldn't or wouldn't reschedule (which was the right thing to do, even if she would have liked to have seen how much further she could have gone...probably 3rd). Nick even implied that sort of thing when Banana (Bret Michaels) was revealed, asking how he could manage to be on the show with his tour immediately upcoming. Talent may be a factor, but there are other factors that are not advertised, and rarely acknowledged at all. Host, panel, and contestants all play along with that. edit: it is mainly entertainment (and ultimately a way of selling commercials, of course); any resemblance to a transparent or fair competition is mostly illusion. Has Jackie ever just lost a contest. According to some of her fans there has been an excuse for everything she didn't win, it's never Jackie just lost, out of all the contest she has ever been in she never won one of them and there is an excuse of why she didn't win for every last one of them. It's getting a little old by now. |
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Post by richard on May 31, 2023 16:07:29 GMT -5
I believe that talent above was on AGT with JME , she was a very very busy girl for years , don't know about now .Her first album is still unwapped in a box with all the talents i thought could be big , i don't even know who all i have , never played them all , yes even JME ones . Here is what happened to Lindsey Stirling
First you have to remember those A-Hole judges on AGT have no credentials for being a judge in any of the AGT categories. After Lindsey was humiliated by Piers Morgan and left the show a Cinematographer saw that she had a lot of talent so he got a hold of her and they produced "Crystallize" notice it has 269 million views. Lindsey became a popular Youtuber and now has over 13.6 million subscribers.
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