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Post by colt46 on Sept 14, 2023 13:29:25 GMT -5
I have never said Jackie would be as big as Lady Gaga, those are statements that over the top fans make ,and I might add all singers have over the top fans! Just another attempt to pile on Jackie when she is down and is trying to climb her way out of a hole 🕳️ she is in !
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Post by Guest 6 on Sept 14, 2023 13:30:17 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Jackie Anastasia Lee! The numbers pretty well show that Anastasia Lee is right. Jackie only gained 9 instagram followers since her song came out.
Miss Evancho may become a poster on a 8 member forum as Miss Lee .
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Post by Socal Fan on Sept 14, 2023 13:36:55 GMT -5
Any idea which Pandora playlist it was? There are playlists of all different subscriber sizes so it makes a huge difference. Indie Pop Thanks. Do you know: 1. How many subscribers does the Indie Pop playlist have? 2. How does the subscription size of the Indie Pop playlist compare to other playlists in Pandora? (Average, above average, below average, etc?) FYI - The Indie Pop playlist on Spotify has 1.7M likes, 100 songs and runs about 5 hrs.
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Post by colt46 on Sept 14, 2023 13:37:56 GMT -5
Jackie has just gotten started on her new path, I certainly didn’t expect her to rocket 🚀 to success in just a few days , give her a break, that’s all this forum does it look at numbers all the time , regardless of the low numbers, I do believe there is a pathway to future success though a modest one !
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 14, 2023 13:44:05 GMT -5
No I’m looking at it from the standpoint of both. I don’t think it’s particularly streamable either. Usually the stuff that’s streamed most popularly is stuff that becomes popular now on TikTok or Instagram or tv in a soundtrack — because of marketing, and I just don’t find the look/sound very marketable. Like I said, I know many women doing the exact same thing in some cases better. People in the music industry are less likely to get behind your career if your whole vibe is “I’m crazy, here are the songs about my mental illness.” And then she’s still exceedingly anorexic. It’s too big a risk to vac a play like that if they can find a healthy woman elsewhere. If Jackie were trying to be a mainstream or teen pop star like Olivia Rodrigo, you would be correct. But she isn't - she couldn't. This is aimed at a niche - the "alt-pop" audience that supports a lot of people under the radar. It is not a mainstream audience and it loves people who sing about how horrible their life is and how depressed they are. Once in a while, one of their artists will become a sensation (e.g., Alanis Morissette, Billie Eilish) but most are underground but they can make a good living. It is certainly a far healthier genre than CC.
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 14, 2023 13:46:48 GMT -5
Thanks. Do you know: 1. How many subscribers does the Indie Pop playlist have? 2. How does the subscription size of the Indie Pop playlist compare to other playlists in Pandora? (Average, above average, below average, etc?) FYI - The Indie Pop playlist on Spotify has 1.7M likes, 100 songs and runs about 5 hrs. I don't use Pandora so I have no idea.
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Post by colt46 on Sept 14, 2023 14:00:04 GMT -5
I agree with your comment amg1977 !
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Post by msims on Sept 14, 2023 14:07:53 GMT -5
Anastasia Lee, wait until you hear the metal and country-esque songs she also recorded, especially the metal song which sounded really good.
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Post by msims on Sept 14, 2023 14:15:42 GMT -5
Jackie has just gotten started on her new path, I certainly didn’t expect her to rocket 🚀 to success in just a few days , give her a break, that’s all this forum does it look at numbers all the time , regardless of the low numbers, I do believe there is a pathway to future success though a modest one ! Its been the same old schtick for many years comparing her to those who cant sing (on purpose) but have high inflated numbers, who cares? I bring up the albums sales for that purpose and others, because she sold those albums with not that many followers on twitter, facebook, or instagram at the time. It was because she toured, did tv, and released albums. So to expect her now to gain a number of followers and streams overnight (in Rickkys case within minutes of release) is completely deranged.
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Post by msims on Sept 14, 2023 14:22:26 GMT -5
By the way, no rational person believes that Jackie can't tour due to songwriting, despite msims assertions. LOL I believe donkey, who I should nickname chicken for ignoring me, care to clarify what he meant by this? Watch her interview yesterday, she said shes in songwriting mode. Ive repeatedly said and "chicken" agreed with me that shes touring next year.
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Post by richard on Sept 14, 2023 14:25:20 GMT -5
I have never said Jackie would be as big as Lady Gaga, those are statements that over the top fans make ,and I might add all singers have over the top fans! Just another attempt to pile on Jackie when she is down and is trying to climb her way out of a hole 🕳️ she is in ! I didn't mean you in general but in the past that is how a lot of Jackie fans looked at her, as if she was destined to be great. I remember them laughing at how much work some of them put into their careers and about how Jackie didn't need to do that.
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Post by colt46 on Sept 14, 2023 14:30:44 GMT -5
Where did Jackie learn her work habits, dear old dad who spent more time by the pool 🏊♀️ than helping Jackie with her career, he was and is good at spending her money 💰!
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Post by msims on Sept 14, 2023 14:34:47 GMT -5
I have never said Jackie would be as big as Lady Gaga, those are statements that over the top fans make ,and I might add all singers have over the top fans! Just another attempt to pile on Jackie when she is down and is trying to climb her way out of a hole 🕳️ she is in ! I didn't mean you in general but in the past that is how a lot of Jackie fans looked at her, as if she was destined to be great. I remember them laughing at how much work some of them put into their careers and about how Jackie didn't need to do that. Unless you can quote the exact post and poster, you arent telling the truth again as you been saying alot of nonsense lately. Nobody intelligent thinks its not a hell of alot of work, but most real musicians couldn't care less about being famous or being influencers. They just want to create, as is the case with Greg Camp who doesn't need to work or be famous.
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Post by richard on Sept 14, 2023 14:36:45 GMT -5
By the way, no rational person believes that Jackie can't tour due to songwriting, despite msims assertions. LOL I believe donkey, who I should nickname chicken for ignoring me, care to clarify what he meant by this? Watch her interview yesterday, she said shes in songwriting mode. Ive repeatedly said and "chicken" agreed with me that shes touring next year. This is what a tour looks like, not what we see you call a tour. Jackie better hurry the young Moppets are already taking all the Arena's. Maybe you can use that as an excuse why Jackie can only get a few gigs as a guest singer in the neighborhood of 600 capacity.
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Post by 1 Guest on Sept 14, 2023 14:42:06 GMT -5
Jackie has just gotten started on her new path, I certainly didn’t expect her to rocket 🚀 to success in just a few days , give her a break, that’s all this forum does it look at numbers all the time , regardless of the low numbers, I do believe there is a pathway to future success though a modest one ! Its been the same old schtick for many years comparing her to those who cant sing (on purpose) but have high inflated numbers, who cares? I bring up the albums sales for that purpose and others, because she sold those albums with not that many followers on twitter, facebook, or instagram at the time. It was because she toured, did tv, and released albums. So to expect her now to gain a number of followers and streams overnight (in Rickkys case within minutes of release) is completely deranged. She didn't need followers back in 2010, social media wasn't what it is today. She sold those albums because people were still buying physical CD's, and yes, she did TV. Boy, did she ever do TV. Major network morning and afternoon talk shows, even the major news channels promoted her, it was hard to turn on the TV and not see something about her for a while. And her physical CD's were piled to the ceilings at most brick and mortar stores, Sams Club, BJ's, Walmart, K-Mart, Barnes and Noble, Costcos, etc., right near the registers so it's surprising that she didn't sell even more. There's nothing wrong with that, it was good for sales, but those days are long gone.
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