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Post by msims on Sept 26, 2023 16:22:06 GMT -5
LoL...I didnt know others here had been kicked out. Yes evidently they can't handle to truth over there. Everyone knows that: there are people who are instagram famous with no talent. The question is why the hell should a Jackie fan care about the Kardashians or any of the moppets? Rick left this site because he didn't want to read about moppets. As far as what johnny rain cloud said: donkey is not OTT enough, he sounds very OTT to me by his comments to Jackie on instagram. donkey I think has some autism as well because he shouldn't have told Rick that he shouldn't have cats, right or not. To take Caz's lead and its none of his or Caz's business what Rick does, but Rick is stupid for talking about it much less operating a fan site when he hasn't been a fan for a number of years. Same with Soc, hes not a fan and it makes no sense (and they cant justify it) why anyone would be interested in the career of someone they do not like, especially her father and her fans.
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Post by ChrisR on Sept 26, 2023 16:34:12 GMT -5
Yes evidently they can't handle to truth over there. Everyone knows that: there are people who are instagram famous with no talent. The question is why the hell should a Jackie fan care about the Kardashians or any of the moppets? Rick left this site because he didn't want to read about moppets. As far as what johnny rain cloud said: donkey is not OTT enough, he sounds very OTT to me by his comments to Jackie on instagram. donkey I think has some autism as well because he shouldn't have told Rick that he shouldn't have cats, right or not. To take Caz's lead and its none of his or Caz's business what Rick does, but Rick is stupid for talking about it much less operating a fan site when he hasn't been a fan for a number of years. Same with Soc, hes not a fan and it makes no sense (and they cant justify it) why anyone would be interested in the career of someone they do not like, especially her father and her fans. It's just like it was over at the other old Amazon site, we compare and contrast JE to some of her contemporaries. I know it bothers you that many of them are more successful than Jackie is these days, but that's life. You clearly have difficulties coping with that. Try to overcome your difficulties with that because it will serve you well in life moving forward. I still believe that the majority of members in here hope that JE will be able to continue her career for years to come, but most of us in here have also accepted that it won't be as successful as it was many years ago.
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Post by msims on Sept 26, 2023 16:46:56 GMT -5
Her contemporaries are: Josh Groban, Susan Boyle, Katherine Jenkins, Il Volo, Pia Toscano, Tori Kelly, etc etc.Hilarious. How many albums did that Moppet you post the other day sell? Oh I looked into it. She didn't go platinum she went: aluminum.
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Post by richard on Sept 26, 2023 16:57:03 GMT -5
Everyone knows that: there are people who are instagram famous with no talent. The question is why the hell should a Jackie fan care about the Kardashians or any of the moppets? Who is instagram famous without any talent. Name Names please. The Kardashians are very talented as they made a billion dollar empire. Talent just doesn't come from acting, singing and dancing. Steve Jobs was very talented but not in the entertainment industry.
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Post by ChrisR on Sept 26, 2023 16:57:10 GMT -5
Hilarious. Her contemporaries are: Josh Groban, Susan Boyle, Katherine Jenkins, Il Volo, Pia Toscano, Tori Kelly, etc etc. How many albums did that Moppet you post the other day sell? Oh I looked into it. She didn't go platinum she went: aluminum. Her contemporaries back than are now totally different than the ones that she is going up against now. Try to keep up with the program msims. lol I realize how literal you are, so I should have emphasized the sort of pop artists she is going up against today. By the way msims several of those contemporaries back than like Groban have been more successful than Jackie.
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Post by Socal Fan on Sept 26, 2023 17:02:15 GMT -5
Same with Soc, hes not a fan and it makes no sense (and they cant justify it) why anyone would be interested in the career of someone they do not like, especially her father and her fans. 1. I am interested in the career of Charles Manson but I don't like him. 2. I am interested in Jackie fans because I think it is vital to study and understand all forms of mental disorders. 3. You don't seem to like me, donkey, richard or Caz (whoever he is) but you are obviously obsessed by us and can't stop talking about us. So you might want to ask yourself the same question.
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Post by BOGC on Sept 26, 2023 17:03:08 GMT -5
The Kardashians are very talented as they made a billion dollar empire. They are very talented AT SELF-PROMOTION. Famous for being famous, building on an old sex tape. Other than that, they haven't created quality content, introduced brilliant new ideas, solved big problems, or done much of anything except contribute to mainstreaming and monetizing trashy. Even being associated with them can be a risk. Whoever was Kangaroo comes to mind, at least by the implication of some of what was said. Not that there may not be pocketbook advantages, if one really thinks that offsets the risk. Relationships should NOT be theater!
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Post by colt46 on Sept 26, 2023 17:06:50 GMT -5
SoCal Fan I can’t exactly remember why I was kicked out to be honest, I must have touched a sore spot of Ricks , he does have a short fuse!
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Post by colt46 on Sept 26, 2023 17:16:38 GMT -5
I am a realist Jackie fan , msims is not a realistic one, I use to be just as hard headed as him but I came to my senses, by just using my senses, you can’t overlook the overwhelming facts that we all can see before us! Maybe someday msims will come to his senses like I did but I am not counting on it! I just want Jackie to have a comfortable life doing what she loves to do singing on stage !
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Post by richard on Sept 26, 2023 18:17:57 GMT -5
I am a realist Jackie fan , msims is not a realistic one, I use to be just as hard headed as him but I came to my senses, by just using my senses, you can’t overlook the overwhelming facts that we all can see before us! Maybe someday msims will come to his senses like I did but I am not counting on it! I just want Jackie to have a comfortable life doing what she loves to do singing on stage ! Unfortunately for Jackie when she goes up and sings in front of those businessman they are all going to be realist also and will look at her numbers which are not good and pass on her.
Since Jackie's new song came out she actually lost instagram followers. Jackie's streaming numbers are poor to say the least. Behind my Eyes released Sept. 8 14,950 spotify streams. Dylan Conrique's "When I Go" 101,083 streams.
As I said Dylan should not be doing as well as Jackie in streams as she is totally self promoting using free social media tools. There has never been a person as anti-socialmedia as Mike is and he is Jackie's manager. Jackie gook luck with that.
Olivia Rodrigo's "Guts" that came out the same time Jackie release her new song got 60 million streams the first day (so much for saying you shouldn't expect much on the first day of release).
foggymedia.in/blog/Olivia%20Rodrigo%27s%20%27GUTS%27%20Shatters%20Records%20with%2060%20Million%20First-Day%20Spotify%20Streams/
Olivia Rodrigo is in Japan right now maybe seeing if there would be support for an Asian tour also.
While Jackie is probably doing nothing.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 26, 2023 18:23:43 GMT -5
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Post by colt46 on Sept 26, 2023 18:29:00 GMT -5
I do think Jackie is working harder than she did when she made those comments years ago about not practicing very much, we don’t know what she is doing behind closed doors, I do think she should make some Utube videos showing behind the scenes content, to show she isn’t being lazy and prove to the naysayers she is putting the work in, she isn’t good at promoting herself, to bad she can’t hire someone to film 🎥 behind the scenes activities that relate to her 2.0 remake of her career!
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Post by BOGC on Sept 26, 2023 18:53:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately for Jackie when she goes up and sings in front of those businessman they are all going to be realist also and will look at her numbers which are not good and pass on her. Presumably they're not idiots, and will realize that someone trying to break into a new genre is darn near starting over. I don't know what the heck you want, she's been darn near spamming social media since the release of the song. So of course she should have a world tour booked already? Get a life!
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Post by colt46 on Sept 26, 2023 19:26:10 GMT -5
Jackie isn’t popular, many in this forum have said as much, you can’t force people to let you perform at incredible venues, it will take time and even than a lot of female singers will be more popular! Covid hurt Jackie, the car wreck she had hurt her, her mental illness has hurt her! So there is many reasons Jackie is having problems! Starting over isn’t easy and I am willing to give Jackie some time knowing she won’t be as big as Taylor Swift!
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Post by donkey on Sept 26, 2023 19:35:09 GMT -5
Jackie isn’t popular, many in this forum have said as much, you can’t force people to let you perform at incredible venues, it will take time and even than a lot of female singers will be more popular! Covid hurt Jackie, the car wreck she had hurt her, her mental illness has hurt her! So there is many reasons Jackie is having problems! Starting over isn’t easy and I am willing to give Jackie some time knowing she won’t be as big as Taylor Swift! Those things did hurt her, but the thing that hurt her the most, was the passage of time itself. Ponder that one for a moment. LOL
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