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Post by richard on Jan 6, 2024 17:25:59 GMT -5
If that is a fact, it's only because YOU got on reddit frequently and name her that. There are people who post on reddit who are young and are fans of the show and list her as a favorite over the years, shes not forgotten and her followers numbers did rise. I don't care if her followers rose some Jackie still only has a little over 100k instagram followers. If she had 10 times that many it would put her at the very low end of what she needs before the industry would look at her seriously.
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Post by richard on Jan 6, 2024 17:32:56 GMT -5
I have previously said she had a talent AS A KID for singing opera songs, but no more so than other young talent show kid opera singers like This maybe why Caitlyn Caz, because Jackie Evancho became successful. Why aren't you complaining about those moppets careers on their forums? www.sony.com/content/sony/en/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-music-entertainment/2010/soprano-prodigy-jackie-evancho-becomes-2010s-topselling-debut-artist-as-o-holy-night-her-first-major-label-release-enters-the-billboard-200-at-2.htmlSoprano Prodigy Jackie Evancho Becomes 2010's Top-Selling Debut Artist as O Holy Night, Her First Major Label Release, Enters the Billboard 200 at #2 Sony Music Entertainment - 11/24/2010 NEW YORK, Nov. 24, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- O Holy Night, a special seasonal CD/DVD and first major label release from soprano prodigy Jackie Evancho, has entered the Billboard 200 at #2. With first week's sales topping 239,000 pieces, O Holy Night has secured Jackie's position as 2010's top-selling debut artist as well as the youngest female solo artist to ever debut in the Soundscan era. Additionally, Jackie has entered the Billboard Classical Chart at #1. Jackie's stunning performance on "America's Got Talent" last summer won over the hearts of millions of viewers bringing her from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania into the national spotlight. "Jackie Evancho is one of the purest and finest vocalists I've ever heard, and the initial response to her debut release has been phenomenal," said Steve Barnett, Chairman, Columbia Records. "We are all incredibly proud of Jackie," said Mike and Lisa Evancho, Jackie's parents. "She loves to sing and is incredibly happy to be able to share her gift with the world." On O Holy Night, her debut recording for SYCO/Columbia, Jackie has matched a couple of her favorite Christmas carols -- "O Holy Night" and "Silent Night" -- with "Pie Jesu" and "Panis Angelicus" -- two of the arias she performed on "America's Got Talent" -- on the set's extended play CD. The two-disc O Holy Night includes a bonus DVD featuring Jackie's "America's Got Talent" performances, the audition tape that got her on the show, and an exclusive interview with Jackie filmed the week following the show's finale. It was all fake. Sony pulled the strings and did unethical things just to get her that platinum record. Probably bought them back themselves, which isn't unheard of in that industry. The bottom line is that platium record didn't make any money for Jackie/Evancho's and that is coming from Lisa. That is also the reason Jackie started doing small concerts because she wasn't making anything off her records.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 6, 2024 17:59:57 GMT -5
This maybe why Caitlyn Caz, because Jackie Evancho became successful. Why aren't you complaining about those moppets careers on their forums? www.sony.com/content/sony/en/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-music-entertainment/2010/soprano-prodigy-jackie-evancho-becomes-2010s-topselling-debut-artist-as-o-holy-night-her-first-major-label-release-enters-the-billboard-200-at-2.htmlSoprano Prodigy Jackie Evancho Becomes 2010's Top-Selling Debut Artist as O Holy Night, Her First Major Label Release, Enters the Billboard 200 at #2 Sony Music Entertainment - 11/24/2010 NEW YORK, Nov. 24, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- O Holy Night, a special seasonal CD/DVD and first major label release from soprano prodigy Jackie Evancho, has entered the Billboard 200 at #2. With first week's sales topping 239,000 pieces, O Holy Night has secured Jackie's position as 2010's top-selling debut artist as well as the youngest female solo artist to ever debut in the Soundscan era. Additionally, Jackie has entered the Billboard Classical Chart at #1. Jackie's stunning performance on "America's Got Talent" last summer won over the hearts of millions of viewers bringing her from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania into the national spotlight. "Jackie Evancho is one of the purest and finest vocalists I've ever heard, and the initial response to her debut release has been phenomenal," said Steve Barnett, Chairman, Columbia Records. "We are all incredibly proud of Jackie," said Mike and Lisa Evancho, Jackie's parents. "She loves to sing and is incredibly happy to be able to share her gift with the world." On O Holy Night, her debut recording for SYCO/Columbia, Jackie has matched a couple of her favorite Christmas carols -- "O Holy Night" and "Silent Night" -- with "Pie Jesu" and "Panis Angelicus" -- two of the arias she performed on "America's Got Talent" -- on the set's extended play CD. The two-disc O Holy Night includes a bonus DVD featuring Jackie's "America's Got Talent" performances, the audition tape that got her on the show, and an exclusive interview with Jackie filmed the week following the show's finale. It was all fake. Sony pulled the strings and did unethical things just to get her that platinum record. Probably bought them back themselves, which isn't unheard of in that industry. The bottom line is that platium record didn't make any money for Jackie/Evancho's and that is coming from Lisa. That is also the reason Jackie started doing small concerts because she wasn't making anything off her records.
Not true, it made a pile but unfortunately the record company pulled a fast one on Mike and took most of it for production costs. I seem to recall Mike an Lisa saying they were unaware of the finer details of the contract. Ooops!
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Post by amg1977 on Jan 6, 2024 18:00:11 GMT -5
It was all fake. Sony pulled the strings and did unethical things just to get her that platinum record. Probably bought them back themselves, which isn't unheard of in that industry. The bottom line is that platium record didn't make any money for Jackie/Evancho's and that is coming from Lisa. That is also the reason Jackie started doing small concerts because she wasn't making anything off her records.
The main reason for the lack of money made by the EP was not the sales as much as the expense of making it. They ended up paying David Foster (who probably commanded a large ransom) and then there is the expense of making a CC album. A pop album can be made by a producer using Pro-tools, Logic, etc., and few if any session musicians. Jackie ended up with an something akin to an orchestra and that ain't cheap.
As far as "cheating," I can't get that upset over it. People have been gaming the system for chart positions and certifications as long as those things have existed. That is why the RIAA and Billboard keep changing the rules - because people keep gaming the system to get certs and chart positions they don't deserve. Prince and Michael Jackson were notorious for playing games in the past and now with streaming, people have found new ways to game the system that causes almost monthly updates in rules. Whatever gaming went on for DWM is pretty minor compared to the stunts that have been pulled by far larger artists.
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Post by Beachguy on Jan 6, 2024 18:01:15 GMT -5
There are people who post on reddit who are young and are fans of the show and list her as a favorite over the years, shes not forgotten and her followers numbers did rise. I don't care if her followers rose some Jackie still only has a little over 100k instagram followers. If she had 10 times that many it would put her at the very low end of what she needs before the industry would look at her seriously. Richards know his numbers , Jackie is like a fighter down , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... will a heavenly bell save her for another round to knock out the negative vibes heard around the world , the odds are 87.4 to 12.6 her career is sadly dismal due to unseen events in her life , not her voice or singing imo .
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Post by msims on Jan 6, 2024 18:06:21 GMT -5
This maybe why Caitlyn Caz, because Jackie Evancho became successful. Why aren't you complaining about those moppets careers on their forums? www.sony.com/content/sony/en/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-music-entertainment/2010/soprano-prodigy-jackie-evancho-becomes-2010s-topselling-debut-artist-as-o-holy-night-her-first-major-label-release-enters-the-billboard-200-at-2.htmlSoprano Prodigy Jackie Evancho Becomes 2010's Top-Selling Debut Artist as O Holy Night, Her First Major Label Release, Enters the Billboard 200 at #2 Sony Music Entertainment - 11/24/2010 NEW YORK, Nov. 24, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- O Holy Night, a special seasonal CD/DVD and first major label release from soprano prodigy Jackie Evancho, has entered the Billboard 200 at #2. With first week's sales topping 239,000 pieces, O Holy Night has secured Jackie's position as 2010's top-selling debut artist as well as the youngest female solo artist to ever debut in the Soundscan era. Additionally, Jackie has entered the Billboard Classical Chart at #1. Jackie's stunning performance on "America's Got Talent" last summer won over the hearts of millions of viewers bringing her from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania into the national spotlight. "Jackie Evancho is one of the purest and finest vocalists I've ever heard, and the initial response to her debut release has been phenomenal," said Steve Barnett, Chairman, Columbia Records. "We are all incredibly proud of Jackie," said Mike and Lisa Evancho, Jackie's parents. "She loves to sing and is incredibly happy to be able to share her gift with the world." On O Holy Night, her debut recording for SYCO/Columbia, Jackie has matched a couple of her favorite Christmas carols -- "O Holy Night" and "Silent Night" -- with "Pie Jesu" and "Panis Angelicus" -- two of the arias she performed on "America's Got Talent" -- on the set's extended play CD. The two-disc O Holy Night includes a bonus DVD featuring Jackie's "America's Got Talent" performances, the audition tape that got her on the show, and an exclusive interview with Jackie filmed the week following the show's finale. It was all fake. Sony pulled the strings and did unethical things just to get her that platinum record. Probably bought them back themselves, which isn't unheard of in that industry. The bottom line is that platium record didn't make any money for Jackie/Evancho's and that is coming from Lisa. That is also the reason Jackie started doing small concerts because she wasn't making anything off her records. You cannot fake sales or pull strings, thats stupid. Either you sink or swim. The royalties she made from OHN went towards DWM, Lisa said. Combined OHN and DWM did over 2 million units worldwide (1.2m US, 80k canada/DWM 750-800k US, 50k canadian, plus international/60k UK and 75k dvd sales) and there was no touring on OHN and some on DWM. Thats just the first two Sony releases and thats without a huge social media presence, a fraction of what she has now and NO instagram. I would say thats prodigious. Also the reason shes brought up again over the years on TMS reddit: because she had the potential as a finalist but had to leave the competition due to tour dates in early 2020, glad she took them as the pandemic shut down the industry.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 6, 2024 18:10:40 GMT -5
I don't care if her followers rose some Jackie still only has a little over 100k instagram followers. If she had 10 times that many it would put her at the very low end of what she needs before the industry would look at her seriously. Richards know his numbers , Jackie is like a fighter down , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... will a heavenly bell save her for another round to knock out the negative vibes heard around the world , the odds are 87.4 to 12.6 her career is sadly dismal due to unseen events in her life , not her voice or singing imo . Around the world, people in her own state hardly know her. The main problem is very simple and should be easy for someone with your mentality to understand, no one’s buying what’s she’s selling.(music)
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Post by Disappointed on Jan 6, 2024 18:15:14 GMT -5
Also the reason shes brought up again over the years on TMS reddit: because she had the potential as a finalist but had to leave the competition due to tour dates in early 2020, glad she took them as the pandemic shut down the industry. That's total BS that you and your OTT buddies dreamed up to justify why she got the boot. She got the boot because people liked the other remaining contestants better. You same OTTs dreamed up that she actually won AGT by over 5 million votes but the show decided to give it to Grimm. LOL. Keep on dreamin'! In the real world, TMS did nothing for her and she's desperately trying anything and everything now, but nothing is working.
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Post by donkey on Jan 6, 2024 18:18:52 GMT -5
Also the reason shes brought up again over the years on TMS reddit: because she had the potential as a finalist but had to leave the competition due to tour dates in early 2020, glad she took them as the pandemic shut down the industry. That's total BS that you and your OTT buddies dreamed up to justify why she got the boot. She got the boot because people liked the other remaining contestants better. You same OTTs dreamed up that she actually won AGT by over 5 million votes but the show decided to give it to Grimm. LOL. Keep on dreamin'! In the real world, TMS did nothing for her and she's desperately trying anything and everything now, but nothing is working. Come one msims..that is utter and complete nonsense. It's OTT conspiracy theory garbage, and if you really believe that, I have a bridge in the AZ desert to sell you. LOL
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Post by Beachguy on Jan 6, 2024 18:26:56 GMT -5
Jackie Evancho did well on agt even with a few mistakes in total but she was big news because of her adult voice/tone , nothing more nothing less . It in many minds of people it was too early in age most likely pushed up for $$$ by parents . Geez professor Beachnutsac tell us something we already don’t know. How much did you give Lisa buying stuff on eBay? haha johnny be a fake , i had bought the store out in 2011 , yes a investment choice just in case in future , two large boxes are in my sons attic collecting dust , he plans to put the said large boxes on said eBay in about ten years before all the OTTs die off , new items are added yet , remember i was a big fan in dem years but fought with the OTTs a lot , they wanted me kicked off cause i told them NOT to put her on that high pedestal for it was not fair .
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Post by msims on Jan 6, 2024 18:30:27 GMT -5
Also the reason shes brought up again over the years on TMS reddit: because she had the potential as a finalist but had to leave the competition due to tour dates in early 2020, glad she took them as the pandemic shut down the industry. That's total BS that you and your OTT buddies dreamed up to justify why she got the boot. She got the boot because people liked the other remaining contestants better. You same OTTs dreamed up that she actually won AGT by over 5 million votes but the show decided to give it to Grimm. LOL. Keep on dreamin'! In the real world, TMS did nothing for her and she's desperately trying anything and everything now, but nothing is working. Projecting onto me what you read by other people isn't an argument. You would have to give me an example of what I said with a link that you deem to be OTT and I never said anything anywhere about the votes. TMS did get her more followers of young people and she more than doubled her facebook follower counts. She will have a new EP or LP released in a few months and there has to be a push because this is the longest shes worked on any music project. Btw if those opera singers you named were that prodigious, they would have found success as well.
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Post by Beachguy on Jan 6, 2024 18:32:02 GMT -5
Richards know his numbers , Jackie is like a fighter down , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... will a heavenly bell save her for another round to knock out the negative vibes heard around the world , the odds are 87.4 to 12.6 her career is sadly dismal due to unseen events in her life , not her voice or singing imo . Around the world, people in her own state hardly know her. The main problem is very simple and should be easy for someone with your mentality to understand, no one’s buying what’s she’s selling.(music) They have not for years ding bat , duh ! wat you think or don't you think except to call people names like a 8 year old to are , you should have added a A after your fake name but i am sure you did not see many a A in school .
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Post by msims on Jan 6, 2024 18:33:01 GMT -5
That's total BS that you and your OTT buddies dreamed up to justify why she got the boot. She got the boot because people liked the other remaining contestants better. You same OTTs dreamed up that she actually won AGT by over 5 million votes but the show decided to give it to Grimm. LOL. Keep on dreamin'! In the real world, TMS did nothing for her and she's desperately trying anything and everything now, but nothing is working. Come one msims..that is utter and complete nonsense. It's OTT conspiracy theory garbage, and if you really believe that, I have a bridge in the AZ desert to sell you. LOL No. BGOC has talked about it as well. Search the forum for posts made prior on the topic.
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Post by msims on Jan 6, 2024 18:34:33 GMT -5
Richards know his numbers , Jackie is like a fighter down , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... will a heavenly bell save her for another round to knock out the negative vibes heard around the world , the odds are 87.4 to 12.6 her career is sadly dismal due to unseen events in her life , not her voice or singing imo . Around the world, people in her own state hardly know her. Only a child wants to be famous and known by everybody. There are consequences to that, like not having privacy. If Jackie is able to go around the country without getting noticed and still make a living, that is a good deal and not anything negative. Negatives are just that negatives. Its not an argument.
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Post by Disappointed on Jan 6, 2024 18:41:54 GMT -5
Btw if those opera singers you named were that prodigious, they would have found success as well. Yes, they would have. That is, had they been born in the right place at the right time and gotten on AGT in 2010. But through no fault of their own, they were not. And by pure dumb luck, Jackie was. Similarly, had many people in Ukraine or Gaza been born in the US or been born at a different time, they would be alive today. Whereas, had you been born there, you may be dead today. Right Place, Right Time... Means Everything.
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