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Post by amg1977 on Apr 15, 2024 21:18:34 GMT -5
I am starting to get why they decided to give BME another go with the 2.0 version. While it does not have a "come out and grab you" hook, it does become a bit of an earworm with repeated listening. Also, while it is most likely about depression, it does not hit you over the head with it. If you were unfamiliar with Jackie's past, you could take the song a number of different ways and read your own preferred meaning into it.
Looking at the streams, after being dead a month ago, it is starting to pick up. I am counting both versions together since a search for the song name could give you either one or both. But together it totals close to 75,000 and picking up steam ever so slightly. I also noticed that five playlists have added the song in the last few days. They aren't the playlists with the largest audiences but that is unlikely until others add you. Still, just being on even a minor playlist can add streams. Playlists are the new radio stations and someone can get hundreds - even thousands - of streams a month just by being added to the right playlists. So she may get a slight jump in her numbers in the next few weeks.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 15, 2024 21:36:49 GMT -5
Grace posted an acoustic cover of the Weekend's "Earned It."
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Post by BOGC on Apr 15, 2024 22:46:48 GMT -5
There are certain place that the paparazzi know about that are frequented by celebrities where they hang out hoping to spot someone. I doubt Jackie would ever be at one.
With rare chosen exceptions, I would hope that she (or anyone) would not want to be spotted by paparazzi. Publicity is a necessary evil, but it's as evil as it is necessary. See and be seen is BS, unless it's for the premiere of something one worked on oneself. Otherwise, leave that sort of hanging out with the trendy to those who are obsessed with trendiness. Working is part of networking, and provides most of what is needed. A very few might be worth hanging out with for something that isn't work, but not many.
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 15, 2024 23:18:08 GMT -5
I also noticed that five playlists have added the song in the last few days. They aren't the playlists with the largest audiences but that is unlikely until others add you. How do you find playlists that added BME?
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Post by richard on Apr 15, 2024 23:34:18 GMT -5
There are certain place that the paparazzi know about that are frequented by celebrities where they hang out hoping to spot someone. I doubt Jackie would ever be at one.
With rare chosen exceptions, I would hope that she (or anyone) would not want to be spotted by paparazzi. Publicity is a necessary evil, but it's as evil as it is necessary. See and be seen is BS, unless it's for the premiere of something one worked on oneself. Otherwise, leave that sort of hanging out with the trendy to those who are obsessed with trendiness. Working is part of networking, and provides most of what is needed. A very few might be worth hanging out with for something that isn't work, but not many. All the BS reasons that people come up with wanting to make it sound Jackie is better off being alone with just family and having her dad as her best friend. It's not healthy or normal to live like that.
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Post by BOGC on Apr 16, 2024 2:58:20 GMT -5
With rare chosen exceptions, I would hope that she (or anyone) would not want to be spotted by paparazzi. Publicity is a necessary evil, but it's as evil as it is necessary. See and be seen is BS, unless it's for the premiere of something one worked on oneself. Otherwise, leave that sort of hanging out with the trendy to those who are obsessed with trendiness. Working is part of networking, and provides most of what is needed. A very few might be worth hanging out with for something that isn't work, but not many. All the BS reasons that people come up with wanting to make it sound Jackie is better off being alone with just family and having her dad as her best friend. It's not healthy or normal to live like that.
Maybe for some people it is, until they're ready to move on. People don't all have to be Energizer Bunnies that hang in packs with their maybe friends.
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Post by Avoidy on Apr 16, 2024 3:51:00 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for.
Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved.
The thing that happens to someone who has somehow found themselves in a pattern of bowing out of friend interactions is that they become avoidant by default. They begin thinking that they are just loners, or that they are not wanted by others. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. No one knows for sure if she has mental problems - that could just be what she's clinging to as a safety blanket. She's not well-adjusted, but she might be able to bust out of that cocoon if people stop coddling her like she's still the little girl in the red dress.
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Post by BOGC on Apr 16, 2024 4:50:00 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for. Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved. The thing that happens to someone who has somehow found themselves in a pattern of bowing out of friend interactions is that they become avoidant by default. They begin thinking that they are just loners, or that they are not wanted by others. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. No one knows for sure if she has mental problems - that could just be what she's clinging to as a safety blanket. She's not well-adjusted, but she might be able to bust out of that cocoon if people stop coddling her like she's still the little girl in the red dress. She's 24. Anytime she wants to hang out with non-relatives, or even hook up with a guy, there is nobody that can stop her, unless there's a protective order, which I very much doubt. People do things in their own time. Some never do some things. That's fine, and nobody else should expect them to conform OR remain non-conforming other than of their own free will.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 16, 2024 9:05:57 GMT -5
I also noticed that five playlists have added the song in the last few days. They aren't the playlists with the largest audiences but that is unlikely until others add you. How do you find playlists that added BME? On the PC version of the Spotify app (it doesn't appear on phone versions), go to Jackie's page on Spotify and scroll down towards the bottom where it says "Discovered on." That will show a few playlists Jackie is on. On the right hand side across from "Discovered on" will appear "Show all" and that will bring up every playlist Jackie appears on. A lot of these are CC playlists, Classical playlists, Christmas playlists, and Jackie playlists. There are, however, some recently added AC/alt-pop playlists that include Jackie such as Radio Eska and RMF Maxxx. If you check every so often you can see if others add her in the future.
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Post by richard on Apr 16, 2024 9:20:23 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for. Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved. The thing that happens to someone who has somehow found themselves in a pattern of bowing out of friend interactions is that they become avoidant by default. They begin thinking that they are just loners, or that they are not wanted by others. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. No one knows for sure if she has mental problems - that could just be what she's clinging to as a safety blanket. She's not well-adjusted, but she might be able to bust out of that cocoon if people stop coddling her like she's still the little girl in the red dress. She's 24. Anytime she wants to hang out with non-relatives, or even hook up with a guy, there is nobody that can stop her, unless there's a protective order, which I very much doubt. People do things in their own time. Some never do some things. That's fine, and nobody else should expect them to conform OR remain non-conforming other than of their own free will. That's right she is 24 years old and they got her pretty set in her ways. She now doesn't trust anyone, she lives with her dad who she considers her best friend and her bodyguard. The die has been cast and not easily broken. Even the video of her at a show in Pittsburgh she was with her dad a few days ago. I didn't see her with anyone else around her age.
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 9:21:08 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for. Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved. The thing that happens to someone who has somehow found themselves in a pattern of bowing out of friend interactions is that they become avoidant by default. They begin thinking that they are just loners, or that they are not wanted by others. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. No one knows for sure if she has mental problems - that could just be what she's clinging to as a safety blanket. She's not well-adjusted, but she might be able to bust out of that cocoon if people stop coddling her like she's still the little girl in the red dress. She's 24. Anytime she wants to hang out with non-relatives, or even hook up with a guy, there is nobody that can stop her, unless there's a protective order, which I very much doubt. People do things in their own time. Some never do some things. That's fine, and nobody else should expect them to conform OR remain non-conforming other than of their own free will. I'm not quite sure why Jackie needs to hang with celebrities for fulfillment. It would be great if she made friends and hung around with anyone her age at this point (except her dad).
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Post by JACKARAMA on Apr 16, 2024 9:58:40 GMT -5
She's 24. Anytime she wants to hang out with non-relatives, or even hook up with a guy, there is nobody that can stop her, unless there's a protective order, which I very much doubt. People do things in their own time. Some never do some things. That's fine, and nobody else should expect them to conform OR remain non-conforming other than of their own free will. I'm not quite sure why Jackie needs to hang with celebrities for fulfillment. It would be great if she made friends and hung around with anyone her age at this point (except her dad). Seems to be her parents deliberately steered her clear of hanging out with celebrities on a social level as a kid to avoid the craziness of that world.
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Post by richard on Apr 16, 2024 10:28:05 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure why Jackie needs to hang with celebrities for fulfillment. It would be great if she made friends and hung around with anyone her age at this point (except her dad). Seems to be her parents deliberately steered her clear of hanging out with celebrities on a social level as a kid to avoid the craziness of that world. From what I have seen they all seem like pretty normal kids. It is Jackie who has the mental problem and physical problems that stem from her unnatural upbringing. State the crazies you are talking about, because there are a hell of a lot more crazies that people consider are living normal lives.
Name the ones you think are crazy and don't just give a generalization.
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 11:01:31 GMT -5
Seems to be her parents deliberately steered her clear of hanging out with celebrities on a social level as a kid to avoid the craziness of that world. From what I have seen they all seem like pretty normal kids. It is Jackie who has the mental problem and physical problems that stem from her unnatural upbringing. State the crazies you are talking about, because there are a hell of a lot more crazies that people consider are living normal lives.
Name the ones you think are crazy and don't just give a generalization.
I must be naive because I have never thought this famous person needs to hang around with that famous person. I was a huge Journey and REO fan back in the day. The idea that Kevin Cronin should hang with Steve Perry never crossed my mind. I'm confused.
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 16, 2024 11:37:40 GMT -5
From what I have seen they all seem like pretty normal kids. It is Jackie who has the mental problem and physical problems that stem from her unnatural upbringing. State the crazies you are talking about, because there are a hell of a lot more crazies that people consider are living normal lives.
Name the ones you think are crazy and don't just give a generalization.
I must be naive because I have never thought this famous person needs to hang around with that famous person. I was a huge Journey and REO fan back in the day. The idea that Kevin Cronin should hang with Steve Perry never crossed my mind. I'm confused. You don't have to hang out with other people who are in the entertainment industry, or just famous, but it's nice to hang out with people that you something in common, share some of the ups and downs and understand each other. Or just with people that you went to school with. I still keep in touch with a few people that I met in 9th grade, and 2 of them are still my best friends. (It's been a long time!!!) And several of us get together every few months for a meal. Are you still confused?
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