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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 16, 2024 11:41:02 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure why Jackie needs to hang with celebrities for fulfillment. It would be great if she made friends and hung around with anyone her age at this point (except her dad). Seems to be her parents deliberately steered her clear of hanging out with celebrities on a social level as a kid to avoid the craziness of that world. That could be the reason, unfortunately it didn't prevent her anorexia or fear of people or inability to trust and form friendships.
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 11:45:53 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for. Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved. The thing that happens to someone who has somehow found themselves in a pattern of bowing out of friend interactions is that they become avoidant by default. They begin thinking that they are just loners, or that they are not wanted by others. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. No one knows for sure if she has mental problems - that could just be what she's clinging to as a safety blanket. She's not well-adjusted, but she might be able to bust out of that cocoon if people stop coddling her like she's still the little girl in the red dress. We don't know if Jackie would like to be part of the in crowd or not. I'm assuming if she wanted to do that, she would have made efforts to do so already. The only jet-set person that I remember her wanting to meet is Lady Gaga. I don't get how commenting on her lack of celebrity relationships is somehow enabling her. She said she doesn't read comments about herself on social media, so unless there is a way of transferring thoughts through the universe, it is impossible for anyone here to influence her behavior. How we could be coddling Jackie when none of us are directly involved in her life?
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 11:58:16 GMT -5
I must be naive because I have never thought this famous person needs to hang around with that famous person. I was a huge Journey and REO fan back in the day. The idea that Kevin Cronin should hang with Steve Perry never crossed my mind. I'm confused. You don't have to hang out with other people who are in the entertainment industry, or just famous, but it's nice to hang out with people that you something in common, share some of the ups and downs and understand each other. Or just with people that you went to school with. I still keep in touch with a few people that I met in 9th grade, and 2 of them are still my best friends. (It's been a long time!!!) And several of us get together every few months for a meal. Are you still confused? Sure it's nice to have things in common with others, but there are a host of activities that a celebrity could have in common with others. For example, Jackie has interests outside her profession including painting, animals, trans issues, the city of Pittsburgh, etc. Is she missing out by not developing relationships in those areas of interest? Why are her relationships with celebrities more important than those developed in other areas of her life? If Jackie was interested in hanging with the in-crowd in the entertainment industry, we probably would have seen it by now.
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 16, 2024 12:29:16 GMT -5
You don't have to hang out with other people who are in the entertainment industry, or just famous, but it's nice to hang out with people that you something in common, share some of the ups and downs and understand each other. Or just with people that you went to school with. I still keep in touch with a few people that I met in 9th grade, and 2 of them are still my best friends. (It's been a long time!!!) And several of us get together every few months for a meal. Are you still confused? Sure it's nice to have things in common with others, but there are a host of activities that a celebrity could have in common with others. For example, Jackie has interests outside her profession including painting, animals, trans issues, the city of Pittsburgh, etc. Is she missing out by not developing relationships in those areas of interest? Why are her relationships with celebrities more important than those developed in other areas of her life? If Jackie was interested in hanging with the in-crowd in the entertainment industry, we probably would have seen it by now. I never said that she had to hang with celebrities, but it would be nice if she had someone to hang with. Meet people by taking art classes, volunteer at an animal shelter, whatever she's interested in. Anything and anyone besides her father.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 16, 2024 13:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Apr 16, 2024 13:40:44 GMT -5
You don't have to hang out with other people who are in the entertainment industry, or just famous, but it's nice to hang out with people that you something in common, share some of the ups and downs and understand each other. Or just with people that you went to school with. I still keep in touch with a few people that I met in 9th grade, and 2 of them are still my best friends. (It's been a long time!!!) And several of us get together every few months for a meal. Are you still confused? Sure it's nice to have things in common with others, but there are a host of activities that a celebrity could have in common with others. For example, Jackie has interests outside her profession including painting, animals, trans issues, the city of Pittsburgh, etc. Is she missing out by not developing relationships in those areas of interest? Why are her relationships with celebrities more important than those developed in other areas of her life? If Jackie was interested in hanging with the in-crowd in the entertainment industry, we probably would have seen it by now. She doesn't have to hang out with other celebrities (Though I doubt many her age would think of her like that) Just have some friends she could run with without daddy or other family members.
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 13:54:06 GMT -5
Sure it's nice to have things in common with others, but there are a host of activities that a celebrity could have in common with others. For example, Jackie has interests outside her profession including painting, animals, trans issues, the city of Pittsburgh, etc. Is she missing out by not developing relationships in those areas of interest? Why are her relationships with celebrities more important than those developed in other areas of her life? If Jackie was interested in hanging with the in-crowd in the entertainment industry, we probably would have seen it by now. I never said that she had to hang with celebrities, but it would be nice if she had someone to hang with. Meet people by taking art classes, volunteer at an animal shelter, whatever she's interested in. Anything and anyone besides her father. Oh, yeah - sorry I see that now. But yes I agree....she needs a social life whether it includes celebrities or not
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Post by Jack Frost on Apr 16, 2024 15:57:24 GMT -5
There once was a singer named Jackie Her fans were really quite wacky As her career wound down And fewer fans stuck around I am reminded of the words of George Takei
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Post by msims on Apr 16, 2024 20:19:50 GMT -5
All these excuses offered up for Jackie not being part of the jet set. Do you people actually think Jackie prefers to be an outsider? Get real for crying out loud! Jackie would LOVE to be part of any of these in-crowds. She's been stunted by overly protective parenting. I'll bet that Jackie could rattle off a half-dozen times that she declined (or her parents declined on her behalf) an invitation to a party or some activity that celebrities reached out to her for. Stop making sh!t up to protect her. She would absolutely love to be in just ONE photo with a fun bunch of happy, well-adjusted famous young celebrities. Stop passive-aggressively enabling her to be a wallflower when you know damn well that she would love to be loved. It's toxic, and you people that keep making excuses for her are not doing her any favors. Let Jackie be a normal young woman. "Well-adjusted famous young celebrities" like Jennette McCurdy I fathom. Theres also "Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV" on D+. And speaking of the "jet set", is this "normal"? It's a good thing Sia has that motherly instinct as she revealed (btw check out that full Sia interview) she actually may have saved the teen from Harvey Weinstein's clutches. The singer told Sang, “You know I kept her off a plane that Harvey Weinstein tried to get her on. I know that there've been times that my insight has really made a difference, has kept her safe. Yeah, that was really disgusting.” She added, “When he invited her, that's when I called, I told [her mom] Melissa, I had to. I just said, ‘Please don't, do not do that, do not do that, do not do that.’” Why make posts like the above quoted to coddle or enable Rickky? I never said that she had to hang with celebrities, but it would be nice if she had someone to hang with. Why is it any of your business or any one elses what she chooses to do, who she hires, or how she spends her personal time and who with? Do you not understand how OTT it comes across? You don't have her best interests in mind and that comes across. And you (if not, then Rickky does) somehow believe that celebrities are normal, many are not and its childish to think so.
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Post by The Jackinator on Apr 16, 2024 20:38:57 GMT -5
I never said that she had to hang with celebrities, but it would be nice if she had someone to hang with. Why is it any of your business or any one elses what she chooses to do, who she hires, or how she spends her personal time and who with? Do you not understand how OTT it comes across? You don't have her best interests in mind and that comes across. A nd you (if not, then Rickky does) somehow believe that celebrities are normal, many are not and its childish to think so.Dude, did you even read what 1 Guest said? He said that it would be nice if Jackie had someone to hang with (that might or might not be a celebrity). The statement was made because he doesn't want Jackie to be lonely or sad. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Post by msims on Apr 16, 2024 21:00:19 GMT -5
Why is it any of your business or any one elses what she chooses to do, who she hires, or how she spends her personal time and who with? Do you not understand how OTT it comes across? You don't have her best interests in mind and that comes across. A nd you (if not, then Rickky does) somehow believe that celebrities are normal, many are not and its childish to think so.Dude, did you even read what 1 Guest said? He said that it would be nice if Jackie had someone to hang with (that might or might not be a celebrity). The statement was made because he doesn't want Jackie to be lonely or sad. There's nothing wrong with that. You are being inconsistent. You mentioned being a fan of Journey and REO. It never occurred to you by your own words that Kevin Cronin and Steve Perry should hang out with each other, correct? Steve Perry avoided other members since then because they would want something from him. Theres rationale behind that because people USE celebrities or feed their ego, etc. Why would M&L want that for her? When Jackie said she doesn't trust people outside her family it could be exactly this reason. Do you really think Jackie hasnt had to go through this?
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Post by Friend Fear on Apr 16, 2024 22:17:28 GMT -5
Sims just wants keep his poppet moppet in a state of fear. "Harvey Weinstein! Jennette McCurdy! Lions, tigers and bears!" I always had the feeling that M&L kept Jackie in a state of alert too. Afraid of your own shadow is no way to live. By the way, what does Jennette McCurdy's tragic situation have to do with anything? She's a decent human being who had a wackjob of a mother, but you bring up her name like it's a relevant cautionary tale for Jackie or something.
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Post by richard on Apr 17, 2024 0:28:07 GMT -5
Sims just wants keep his poppet moppet in a state of fear. "Harvey Weinstein! Jennette McCurdy! Lions, tigers and bears!" I always had the feeling that M&L kept Jackie in a state of alert too. Afraid of your own shadow is no way to live. By the way, what does Jennette McCurdy's tragic situation have to do with anything? She's a decent human being who had a wackjob of a mother, but you bring up her name like it's a relevant cautionary tale for Jackie or something. That's the whole thing in a nut shell, by keeping Jackie in a constant state of fear. They could control her even well past her 18th birthday. Does anyone really believe that story that someone dressed up as a priest and wanted Jackie to sit on his lap.
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Post by msims on Apr 17, 2024 1:03:58 GMT -5
Sims just wants keep his poppet moppet in a state of fear. "Harvey Weinstein! Jennette McCurdy! Lions, tigers and bears!" I always had the feeling that M&L kept Jackie in a state of alert too. Afraid of your own shadow is no way to live. By the way, what does Jennette McCurdy's tragic situation have to do with anything? She's a decent human being who had a wackjob of a mother, but you bring up her name like it's a relevant cautionary tale for Jackie or something. You lack the human ability to empathize and you seem to think if you could act that way under a guest account that I should take it seriously. All you do is coddle and enable Rickky and constantly project onto Jackie or her fans. As far as real friends her age (there is evidence she does have young female friends btw), its no ones business but Jackie who shes friends with, shes an ADULT. Let these women live their lives richard , have your own life and deal with that.
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Post by BOGC on Apr 17, 2024 1:08:00 GMT -5
Sims just wants keep his poppet moppet in a state of fear. "Harvey Weinstein! Jennette McCurdy! Lions, tigers and bears!" I always had the feeling that M&L kept Jackie in a state of alert too. Afraid of your own shadow is no way to live. By the way, what does Jennette McCurdy's tragic situation have to do with anything? She's a decent human being who had a wackjob of a mother, but you bring up her name like it's a relevant cautionary tale for Jackie or something. That's the whole thing in a nut shell, by keeping Jackie in a constant state of fear. They could control her even well past her 18th birthday. Does anyone really believe that story that someone dressed up as a priest and wanted Jackie to sit on his lap. Mike would not have made that up or condoned making it up. He's as personally conservative as life has left him room to be. You also can't have it both ways, that he's incompetent but a master manipulator.
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