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Post by Socal Fan on May 6, 2024 21:49:27 GMT -5
I don't always like Lana Del Ray's albums but you have to respect her. She is a true individual (albeit a little wacky), didn't back down to whiners on Twitter who tried to cancel her and told them to f**k off, and just keeps making the music she wants to make without paying any attention to trends. She is a genuine one of a kind and it's nice to see someone win by bucking convention. It helps that she's also immensely talented. Who would think she would ever make a country album? But she did and it will probably be successful and if it isn't she won't give a damn.
I really like Lana Del Rey. Not necessarily her music but her personality. I love this quote from her: "You know, I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry, but none of them helped me get my record deals. Which is annoying." www.complex.com/covers/lana-del-rey-interview-against-the-grain-2014-cover-story/ |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 6, 2024 21:52:52 GMT -5
Some people spend their lives despising someone they don’t even know. Others spend their lives worshipping someone they don’t even know. Which is sad, which is happy? Which is better? You forgot to mention some people simply state facts. For example, if I said there were two incompetent old fools running for president, is that despising either? Nope, just stating a fact. That statement would be BOTH disparaging them and stating a fact. They are not necessarily mutual exclusive. Same thing if you called Obama the n-word. |
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Post by Disappointed on May 6, 2024 22:06:18 GMT -5
And watch out OTTs as well!!!! You got one thing right with this comparison. OTTs most definitely have no brains or no hearts. That's been proven time and time again over the years. LOL! |
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Post by Disappointed on May 6, 2024 22:21:57 GMT -5
You forgot to mention some people simply state facts. For example, if I said there were two incompetent old fools running for president, is that despising either? Nope, just stating a fact. That statement would be BOTH disparaging them and stating a fact. They are not necessarily mutual exclusive. Same thing if you called Obama the n-word. You cunningly switched "despising" to "disparaging", thereby changing the entire subject. Nice end-around! |
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Post by msims on May 6, 2024 22:43:18 GMT -5
Not enough for an all-pop tour if that's what you're holding out for (which there isn't an audience for yet anyway). But with a couple of the better songs from 2HpII and one or two from Awakening and The Debut, a mostly pop concert (with some of that pop familiar enough to existing fans) could be put together, even if it still needed one or two moldy oldie non-pop songs (as those with an all-pop view would imagine them) for a total and for existing fan service. Back in the day as we both know, there was no interwebs or social media. Artists busted their behinds touring to get noticed. She could do a mix of the EP songs, unreleased song or two, and rock pop covers if for instance The Defiant end up booking a club tour. Also she could easily do a 20 to 30 minute set as an opener for any rock or pop act or group and completely open herself up to a whole new possible set of fans, it would be like TMS all over again. There is also gigs like if you recall the Napa Vineyard where she just does a few songs or so set wise along with others. |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 6, 2024 23:15:58 GMT -5
Also she could easily do a 20 to 30 minute set as an opener for any rock or pop act or group and completely open herself up to a whole new possible set of fans, it would be like TMS all over again. If she could, why hasn't she done it? I suspect it is because an opening act needs more followers and streams than she has. There is also gigs like if you recall the Napa Vineyard where she just does a few songs or so set wise along with others. Napa Vineyard was not a paid gig. Just the reverse: Jackie and other artists paid to host a junket for playlist managers and other influential people in the music industry. |
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Post by msims on May 6, 2024 23:38:31 GMT -5
Also she could easily do a 20 to 30 minute set as an opener for any rock or pop act or group and completely open herself up to a whole new possible set of fans, it would be like TMS all over again. If she could, why hasn't she done it? I suspect it is because an opening act needs more followers and streams than she has. I don't know who told her that. You don't need a number of followers. You just need connections. The Defiant are an opening act on a tour. Going to radio stations and performing the new material in studio and also music festivals where they book a headliner and up and coming talents is something her Team should shoot for. As far as donkey comparing her to Charlotte Church, CC hasn't released music since 2014. Jackie has released consistently released material in those years. |
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Post by colt46 on May 7, 2024 8:02:26 GMT -5
Let’s put the political comments where they are supposed to go and not here!
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Post by Socal Fan on May 7, 2024 8:32:11 GMT -5
Political posts moved to Off Topic thread.
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Post by colt46 on May 7, 2024 8:33:22 GMT -5
Thank you Socal Fan !
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Post by Socal Fan on May 7, 2024 8:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 7, 2024 10:58:17 GMT -5
It is now confirmed that Grace Vanderwaal's role in Megalopolis is that of the skanky pop star Vesta Sweetwater in Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis. She will soon be heading off to the Cannes Film Festival for its premiere. The film is apparently off the wall in an Apocalypse Now sort of way with one person who saw it describing it as "Julius Caesar meets Mad Max meets Caligula." The comments from those who have seen it have been largely positive but all say it is a challenging film. Some have called it "incredible" and others say it is "batsh!t crazy." It certainly sounds like it will be a ride.
The film is set in New York after it has been partially destroyed by some natural disaster. There is a battle over the rebuilding between a visionary architect (played by Adam Driver) and a more conservative mayor (played by Giancarlo Esposito) over the future of the city. The daughter of the mayor (played by Nathalie Emmanuel) is dating the architect and is stuck in the middle.
From descriptions, Megalopolis, like many of Coppola's movies, has no white hats and black hats but lots of grey hats. The mayor is somewhat corrupt, the architect is a womanizer who will go after anything in a skirt and Grace's character is a teenage pop star who escapes poverty by sleeping her way to the top. Everyone has skeletons in their closet and are not a fun bunch. It's basically what happens when you have people who are OK in their family lives and productive in their public lives but become decadent once they taste real success.
The page for it at Cannes is here:
Two things I worry about after reading everything #1 I hope they don't make this a Woke film like they seem to want to make these days. The second thing I am a little concerned about is that it seems so much to pack in one 2hr movie. It sounds like it could have been an 8 or 10 episode series.
One thing is for sure, and that is Grace loves playing the bad girl over a sweet Disney character. It's not to far fetched that Grace may just want to put her time into being an actor over a singer.
There is a big risk..according to some German articles..that it becomes one of biggest flops in history..as the film is very experimental Coppola has not found a distribution company yet who wanted to take the risk. There was a secret screening ..and some CEOs and some of the audience were shocked.. So all depends now how Cannes..but there is also the possibility that there will be no real release..because no one wants to invest 80 million in marketing |
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 7, 2024 11:01:18 GMT -5
richardkino-total.net/news-feature/meisterwerk-oder-mega-flop-hollywood-studios-irritiert-von-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolisFrancis Ford Coppola's long-awaited and perhaps final project, Megalopolis, faces a challenge unprecedented even for the legendary director. Despite a star-studded internal Hollywood screening attended by high-profile film industry figures, including NBCUniversal boss Donna Langley and Sony president Tom Rothman, the future of the sci-fi drama appears to star Adam Driver, Shia LaBeouf, Forest Whitaker, Jon Voight , Aubrey Plaza and Dustin Hoffman are uncertain, The Hollywood Reporter reports. Coppola's self-financed $120 million epic, in which a city is rebuilt after its destruction, is considered by some industry insiders to be too experimental and not commercial enough. The reactions after the secret industry screening on March 28, 2024 were very mixed and finding a distributor for the theatrical release was extremely difficult. Some viewers were downright shocked. “Megalopolis” too bulky to market “There's just no way to position this film,” grumbles an industry insider, according to The Hollywood Reporter. “Everyone is rooting for Francis and feeling nostalgic. But there is also the business side,” adds another. A third viewer noted “a noticeable silence at the end of the screening,” but didn’t want to dismiss the film as a failure.
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Post by MegaFlopolis on May 7, 2024 12:31:03 GMT -5
The risk of a movie flopping could be considered a self-fulfilling prophesy as long as the studio system is only willing to promote and distribute films that are easy to "position" in a generic blockbuster market. It sounds like how the recording industry assess their willingness to do the same for recording artists. There have been plenty of so-called box-office flops that became cult classics simply because movie lovers recognize a good film when they see one. Megalopolis will find a distributor. Someone willing to take a long-term risk on a big-budget indy film, basically. It sounds like it won't be an opening week record breaker, but it will make profit for a distributor willing to buy and hold for the sake of the art of filmmaking.
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Post by amg1977 on May 7, 2024 14:54:30 GMT -5
richardkino-total.net/news-feature/meisterwerk-oder-mega-flop-hollywood-studios-irritiert-von-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolisFrancis Ford Coppola's long-awaited and perhaps final project, Megalopolis, faces a challenge unprecedented even for the legendary director. Despite a star-studded internal Hollywood screening attended by high-profile film industry figures, including NBCUniversal boss Donna Langley and Sony president Tom Rothman, the future of the sci-fi drama appears to star Adam Driver, Shia LaBeouf, Forest Whitaker, Jon Voight , Aubrey Plaza and Dustin Hoffman are uncertain, The Hollywood Reporter reports. Coppola's self-financed $120 million epic, in which a city is rebuilt after its destruction, is considered by some industry insiders to be too experimental and not commercial enough. The reactions after the secret industry screening on March 28, 2024 were very mixed and finding a distributor for the theatrical release was extremely difficult. Some viewers were downright shocked. “Megalopolis” too bulky to market “There's just no way to position this film,” grumbles an industry insider, according to The Hollywood Reporter. “Everyone is rooting for Francis and feeling nostalgic. But there is also the business side,” adds another. A third viewer noted “a noticeable silence at the end of the screening,” but didn’t want to dismiss the film as a failure. Coppola has a lot of enemies in Hollywood because he is willing to go outside the system to make films when they are important to him. There were rumors the film was way over budget and would never get fimished on time and people had quit. It turns out it was people Coppola had fired because they were doing things against his explicit directives because they wanted it done their way on his budget. The shill media for the major studios got embarassed when the truth came out because it was what they wanted to here. The film was on time, under budget, and all the actors have universally praised the experience - a rarity in Hollywood. Unless someone attaches a name, I discount it. One of the sources who badmouthed the film wasn't even invited and never saw it. I could see exec types not getting it but, truth be told, they are clueless. Most of them passed on Oppenheimer. They seemed to have forgotten that adults would like to see a good movie now and then. Is Megalopolis a good movie? I have no idea, but the whole "this can't find an audience" bs is the same thing that happened to Apocalypse Now. Then it was shown at Cannes, everyone loved it, and the rest is history. If this is as great a film as other directors have said after seeing it, then it will get shown in theaters and make money eventually. If Hollywood can spend hundreds of millions promoting garbage like all the bombs pushed out by Disney and Warners the last few years, why not this? They don't want it to succeed but it just might anyway - at least in the long run. |
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