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Post by richard on May 8, 2024 14:53:09 GMT -5
Olivia Rodrigo just announced today that she is adding Asia to her world tour.
Looks like they are all Arenas or stadiums plus it looks like she is trying to set something up in Manila.
Jackie needs to step up to the plate if she is going to keep up with those so called moppets msims likes to down.
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Post by colt46 on May 8, 2024 14:57:05 GMT -5
Jackie isn’t trying to keep up with the moppets, no more trying to be a powerhouse, just trying to find a small niche in the entertainment industry!
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Post by amg1977 on May 8, 2024 15:29:38 GMT -5
I'm all for decadence, copulating and bowls of candy, as long as it has its place in the story. Caligula (the film) went way too far in depicting the depths of a depraved Roman emperor (although there was a particularly well done "L" scene, but it had nothing to do with furthering the story). Anyway, I'm just wondering how much of the "Vesta Sweetwater" story from the leaked script survived into the current movie. Do we know that Grace will be rolling in the skittles? I'm okay with whatever role she plays, I'm just not sure how much we actually know about her role. I'm also not sure how much I really want to know. If anyone is inclined to post anything that will spoil the film, please preface your post with "SPOILER ALERT" if you decide to reveal any bits of the film. I did specifically leave out the plot twists that go with her character so that wouldn't be a spoiler. The fact that sex occurs in a modern resetting of ancient Rome would be a surprise to no one paying attention. I guarantee that if the alleged scenes still occur as outlined, everyone will know about it within days of its release. The media loves to run with any "good girl takes her clothes off" theme (although Grace's qualifications for that role were almost as much a result of television producers as Miley's). The plot twists are another matter. The leaked scripts and plot outlines ranged were from originals decades ago and some updated versions. The script has evolved over the time period due to changing attitudes and even changing technology (no desk phones or VHS tapes now) and the most recent outlines were from the early 2000s. However, the character's name remains the same as well as the Roman connections. Her character's backup dancers/singers are even given the title "Vestal Virgins' as was in earlier outlines. Of course, how much is actually visible of the possibly controversial encounter is anyone's guess. You can have what is a love making scene that is no more than PG-13. Nor will theirs be the only encounter as Adam Driver's character likely hooks up with both Nathalie Emmanuel (whose character is in love with him) and Aubrey Plaza (whose character is a rich socialite who organizes decadent get togethers for the elites of society). Like Apocalypse Now, Megalopolis probably is a serious movie that has moments so absurd that it becomes darkly humorous.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 8, 2024 15:58:35 GMT -5
By the way, Happy World Donkey Day to me! Gifts WILL be accepted. LOL  Happy Birthday Donkey  |
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Post by colt46 on May 8, 2024 16:15:40 GMT -5
Happy Birthday 🎉🎈🎊🎂🎁 to the greatest Donkey 🫏 I know!
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Post by The Jackinator on May 8, 2024 16:17:58 GMT -5
Crude remarks are talking about sex in a giant bowl of candy. I don't think Rick is being crude. He is just expressing a negative candid opinion. A number of posters agreed with him. youtube.com/watch?v=vxuoanB6tMs [Smoking Gun video] @rickallanolsen 1 month ago (edited) I've seen Jackie live 4 times. Don't get me wrong, but her Classical Crossover and her voice were so much better way back when. Her voice was unique, but for a long time she's sounded like just any other pop singer. She'll never equal Dream With Me when she was 11 again. Likes 30 Dislikes 0 @rickallanolsen 1 month ago (edited) @cl9786 I stopped buying her music when she put out a CD called The Debut. It sucked and everything she's put out since sucked. Dream With Me was the best thing she's ever done. Likes 10 Dislikes 0 Actually, I can see why he didn't like The Debut and every album after that...I didn't much like The Debut either, primarily due to selection of songs she chose to sing (Not into Broadway songs, esp. not those). Now, I personally liked some of the songs on COT and on this new EP....so I disagree with him there that everything since sucked. But, I respect and understand the comment. He's also correct that Dream With Me was her best album. Yeah, the Debut was not very good. That CD seemed to prove that there are limitations of performing in the CC genre. I don't know anything about CC, but from what I can tell, artists in that genre choose from a limited list of acceptable songs and then they perform them over and over again. For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it. The Debut gave Jackie an opportunity to record songs outside of some of the standard CC songs, but IMO the songs chosen for The Debut were far less inspiring than songs like Lovers and Imaginer. One has to wonder if there are more "Lovers" and "Imaginer" types of songs out there for CC artists to grab onto. I'd really prefer Jackie perform songs in that genre, but perhaps there is nothing else on par with that type of music. In that case, I can see why Jackie moved on, because if I were her, I'd tell myself: If I have to perform "Lovers" and "Imaginer" for the next 50 years, I will die. I'm probably wrong about my assumption, but I wonder how much room there is for creativity in the CC genre. Are CC artists and writers coming up with all kinds of brilliant songs like "Imaginer" regularly? If not, Jackie made an extremely wise move to change genres in order to satisfy her soul and continue to inspire her for years to come. |
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Post by colt46 on May 8, 2024 16:22:46 GMT -5
Rick Olsen has hated every piece of music 🎶 Jackie has put out after Dream With Me ! I totally disagree, so he didn’t like her Christmas music 🎶?
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Post by The Jackinator on May 8, 2024 16:30:16 GMT -5
Jackie isn’t trying to keep up with the moppets, no more trying to be a powerhouse, just trying to find a small niche in the entertainment industry! Jackie will not be able to keep up with the moppets because she won't be able to recruit the massive industry forces that propel artist such as Olivia Rodrigo forward. The musical industrial complex puts its resources behind a limited number of artists, which helps carry them into the mainstream consciousness. Olivia is blessed to have the same forces behind her that carried artists like Britney, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Christina, etc. The remaining artists are left to find the scraps in order to establish themselves into some niche that will help them survive. Obviously, the resources that propel CC artists forward are much, much fewer than those in pop, so one could say it is some kind of miracle that Jackie went as far as she was able in CC. And she likely will never get the big machine behind her since she switched to alt-pop. However, IMO, her past successes in CC and her sheer will-power will allow her some level of success going forward. She's off to a great start with Solla. |
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Post by colt46 on May 8, 2024 16:49:56 GMT -5
I like your post Jackinator !
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Post by donkey on May 8, 2024 17:16:15 GMT -5
Actually, I can see why he didn't like The Debut and every album after that...I didn't much like The Debut either, primarily due to selection of songs she chose to sing (Not into Broadway songs, esp. not those). Now, I personally liked some of the songs on COT and on this new EP....so I disagree with him there that everything since sucked. But, I respect and understand the comment. He's also correct that Dream With Me was her best album. Yeah, the Debut was not very good. That CD seemed to prove that there are limitations of performing in the CC genre. I don't know anything about CC, but from what I can tell, artists in that genre choose from a limited list of acceptable songs and then they perform them over and over again. For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it. The Debut gave Jackie an opportunity to record songs outside of some of the standard CC songs, but IMO the songs chosen for The Debut were far less inspiring than songs like Lovers and Imaginer. One has to wonder if there are more "Lovers" and "Imaginer" types of songs out there for CC artists to grab onto. I'd really prefer Jackie perform songs in that genre, but perhaps there is nothing else on par with that type of music. In that case, I can see why Jackie moved on, because if I were her, I'd tell myself: If I have to perform "Lovers" and "Imaginer" for the next 50 years, I will die. I'm probably wrong about my assumption, but I wonder how much room there is for creativity in the CC genre. Are CC artists and writers coming up with all kinds of brilliant songs like "Imaginer" regularly? If not, Jackie made an extremely wise move to change genres in order to satisfy her soul and continue to inspire her for years to come. There's a good reason you'd like to see her sing more of those kinds of songs (so would I)...it's what she sings best. That being said, I think Solla turned out quite well, better than I expected to be honest. She will keep writing news songs, and I'm all for that, but even if that doesn't work out for her commercially, its been a dream of hers and she should go for it and get it out of her system anyway. AND, it's very therapeutic for her. It's like she just said, you only live once and she really has nothing to lose...so why not go for it? The cc is always there for her as well...to help pay the bills. |
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Post by colt46 on May 8, 2024 17:27:16 GMT -5
Good old Rick Olsen, all he does now is talk about how many mice 🐁 his cats kill!
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Post by richard on May 8, 2024 18:18:08 GMT -5
Jackie isn’t trying to keep up with the moppets, no more trying to be a powerhouse, just trying to find a small niche in the entertainment industry! Jackie will not be able to keep up with the moppets because she won't be able to recruit the massive industry forces that propel artist such as Olivia Rodrigo forward. The musical industrial complex puts its resources behind a limited number of artists, which helps carry them into the mainstream consciousness. Olivia is blessed to have the same forces behind her that carried artists like Britney, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Christina, etc. The remaining artists are left to find the scraps in order to establish themselves into some niche that will help them survive. Obviously, the resources that propel CC artists forward are much, much fewer than those in pop, so one could say it is some kind of miracle that Jackie went as far as she was able in CC. And she likely will never get the big machine behind her since she switched to alt-pop. However, IMO, her past successes in CC and her sheer will-power will allow her some level of success going forward. She's off to a great start with Solla. Olivia Rodrigo doesn't have the musical industrial complex behind her. You make it sound like she was just lucky and Jackie wasn't. It is Jackie who had all the opportunities and wasted them. Olivia was a well liked Disney girl and they ended up letting her go so that she could pursue her music career. Where she is now is because of her hard work and doing the right things like making a fan base.
So I guess Jenna Ortega has some secrete complex behind her, as she also left Disney and pursued an acting career on her own. Jenna's career is doing every bit as well as Olivia's
Jenna just announced she has started filming Wednesday 2 where she is one of the main stars. Wednesday is the most watched English series in Netflix history.
Probably the only young actor that can compete with Jenna Ortega is Millie Bobby Brown.
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Post by Band In A Van on May 8, 2024 18:20:49 GMT -5
Yeah, the Debut was not very good. That CD seemed to prove that there are limitations of performing in the CC genre. I don't know anything about CC, but from what I can tell, artists in that genre choose from a limited list of acceptable songs and then they perform them over and over again. For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it. The Debut gave Jackie an opportunity to record songs outside of some of the standard CC songs, but IMO the songs chosen for The Debut were far less inspiring than songs like Lovers and Imaginer. One has to wonder if there are more "Lovers" and "Imaginer" types of songs out there for CC artists to grab onto. I'd really prefer Jackie perform songs in that genre, but perhaps there is nothing else on par with that type of music. In that case, I can see why Jackie moved on, because if I were her, I'd tell myself: If I have to perform "Lovers" and "Imaginer" for the next 50 years, I will die. I'm probably wrong about my assumption, but I wonder how much room there is for creativity in the CC genre. Are CC artists and writers coming up with all kinds of brilliant songs like "Imaginer" regularly? If not, Jackie made an extremely wise move to change genres in order to satisfy her soul and continue to inspire her for years to come. There's a good reason you'd like to see her sing more of those kinds of songs (so would I)...it's what she sings best. That being said, I think Solla turned out quite well, better than I expected to be honest. She will keep writing news songs, and I'm all for that, but even if that doesn't work out for her commercially, its been a dream of hers and she should go for it and get it out of her system anyway. AND, it's very therapeutic for her. It's like she just said, you only live once and she really has nothing to lose...so why not go for it? The cc is always there for her as well...to help pay the bills. If she is going to write songs, she should also be performing them. One thing I've been wondering about Jackie is what are her expectations are about concerts. Does she still think she can be a headliner act? Lisa would have never allowed Jackie to be an opener, but how does she feel about that? How does she feel about doing band-in-a-van gigs at local clubs. She could be audience testing her EP right now and having fun doing it. Scale musicians are not hard to find in the music classifieds (that's how Grace Vanderwaal found her guitarist). And really, she would only need guitar and keys/synth. Bass lines and any percussion could be done on synth tracks. She wouldn't make much money, but she'd clear a little. There are gigs to be had at lounges and open Wednesday nights in small venues. She doesn't need to build a fancy tour, just market word-of-mouth and book whatever for the experience. I just listened to Solla while cleaning my toilet. I like it, it's catchy and repeatable. Nothing bad to say about it at all. Again on performing, I can't see how she can do that EP without a band. I'd like to see her put together a pick-up band for the 54 Below show. She's already being accompanied by piano, so adding a couple of players to fill out the sound would make for a good show that would pop with an audience. |
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Post by richard on May 8, 2024 18:41:12 GMT -5
There's a good reason you'd like to see her sing more of those kinds of songs (so would I)...it's what she sings best. That being said, I think Solla turned out quite well, better than I expected to be honest. She will keep writing news songs, and I'm all for that, but even if that doesn't work out for her commercially, its been a dream of hers and she should go for it and get it out of her system anyway. AND, it's very therapeutic for her. It's like she just said, you only live once and she really has nothing to lose...so why not go for it? The cc is always there for her as well...to help pay the bills. If she is going to write songs, she should also be performing them. One thing I've been wondering about Jackie is what are her expectations are about concerts. Does she still think she can be a headliner act? Lisa would have never allowed Jackie to be an opener, but how does she feel about that? How does she feel about doing band-in-a-van gigs at local clubs. She could be audience testing her EP right now and having fun doing it. Scale musicians are not hard to find in the music classifieds (that's how Grace Vanderwaal found her guitarist). And really, she would only need guitar and keys/synth. Bass lines and any percussion could be done on synth tracks. She wouldn't make much money, but she'd clear a little. There are gigs to be had at lounges and open Wednesday nights in small venues. She doesn't need to build a fancy tour, just market word-of-mouth and book whatever for the experience. I just listened to Solla while cleaning my toilet. I like it, it's catchy and repeatable. Nothing bad to say about it at all. Again on performing, I can't see how she can do that EP without a band. I'd like to see her put together a pick-up band for the 54 Below show. She's already being accompanied by piano, so adding a couple of players to fill out the sound would make for a good show that would pop with an audience. Are you kidding do you think Mike-E would agree with something like that. Hell Jack Benny would have thought Mike is a cheapskate.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 8, 2024 18:42:00 GMT -5
Jackie will not be able to keep up with the moppets because she won't be able to recruit the massive industry forces that propel artist such as Olivia Rodrigo forward. The musical industrial complex puts its resources behind a limited number of artists, which helps carry them into the mainstream consciousness. Olivia is blessed to have the same forces behind her that carried artists like Britney, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Christina, etc. The remaining artists are left to find the scraps in order to establish themselves into some niche that will help them survive. Obviously, the resources that propel CC artists forward are much, much fewer than those in pop, so one could say it is some kind of miracle that Jackie went as far as she was able in CC. And she likely will never get the big machine behind her since she switched to alt-pop. However, IMO, her past successes in CC and her sheer will-power will allow her some level of success going forward. She's off to a great start with Solla. Olivia Rodrigo doesn't have the musical industrial complex behind her. You make it sound like she was just lucky and Jackie wasn't. It is Jackie who had all the opportunities and wasted them. Olivia was a well liked Disney girl and they ended up letting her go so that she could pursue her music career. Where she is now is because of her hard work and doing the right things like making a fan base.
So I guess Jenna Ortega has some secrete complex behind her, as she also left Disney and pursued an acting career on her own. Jenna's career is doing every bit as well as Olivia's
Jenna just announced she has started filming Wednesday 2 where she is one of the main stars. Wednesday is the most watched English series in Netflix history.
Probably the only young actor that can compete with Jenna Ortega is Millie Bobby Brown. You are putting words in my mouth. I don't believe that Olivia is lucky. She sings the type of music that brings large numbers of fans to go to her concerts and buy CDs. She is also attractive. Jackie is also attractive, but until recently, Jackie has not sung music that appeals to the masses. The music industry folks need to choose artists that they will get behind and its obvious they have chosen artists like Olivia for the great ROI they can get. That's not a knock on either artist because business is business. To expect Jackie to get the number of views, streams, and concert gigs that Olivia gets is comparing apples to oranges. There is no secret complex, but it is plain as day. If your paycheck relied on Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, or one of the mainstream artists, you would work like hell to make sure they were successful. The rest of the artists are treated as small fry and this phenomenon is nothing new. |
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