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Post by colt46 on May 9, 2024 9:32:12 GMT -5
You can’t dispute Jackie’s Gold record made with David Foster , Dream With Me!
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Post by ChrisR on May 9, 2024 10:07:01 GMT -5
You can’t dispute Jackie’s Gold record made with David Foster , Dream With Me! That early album went gold which obviously can't be disputed. Unfortunately, most of her albums over the last several years haven't come close to the early success of that album. |
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Post by richard on May 9, 2024 10:07:52 GMT -5
I don't think that Jackie's fans can claim both that she has great talent and wonderful management after where she is now and being a professional singer for 13 years. You can't have it both ways. Either she never really had the talent and her management was great and did the best they could or Jackie was/is very talented but just has/had very poor management.
Personally I believe Jackie has all the talent she needed to become as big as a star as Olivia Rodrigo is now but she had such terrible management and people who micro-controlled her life over the years.
Yes she may have problems with personality and charisma but a lot of that could have been taught and her not being able to mingle with her own peers is a lot of that problem.
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Post by colt46 on May 9, 2024 10:14:12 GMT -5
I am not talking about that ChrisR ,it’s about if an album 💿 is legitimate gold or platinum!
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Post by colt46 on May 9, 2024 10:15:38 GMT -5
I totally agree with your post Richard ! You nailed it !
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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 10:24:20 GMT -5
I don't think that Jackie's fans can claim both that she has great talent and wonder management after where she is now and being a professional singer for 13 years. You can't have it both ways. Either she never really had the talent and her management was great and did the best they could or Jackie was/is very talented but just has/had very poor management. Personally I believe Jackie has all the talent she needed to become as big as a star as Olivia Rodrigo is now but she had such terrible management and people who micro-controlled her life over the years. Yes she may have problems with personality and charisma but a lot of that could have been taught and her not being able to mingle with her own peers is a lot of that problem. You can't teach personality or charisma...it's something you have or you don't have. Jackie is who she is, and that wouldn't have changed with better management. If you think they could have taught her to be more fake and try to appear as someone else...Jackie's not that good of an actor. lol Now, I do agree that better management decisions could definitely have been made, but ultimately would that have really changed her career trajectory? I personally don't believe that Jackie really has as strong pop voice, and I'm not at all convinced she could have been a pop star with different management. I do think however, that better mgmt probably would have extended the life of the career she was enjoying and mabye even given her a large cc fan base. |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 10:26:11 GMT -5
Either she never really had the talent and her management was great and did the best they could or Jackie was/is very talented but just has/had very poor management. Personally I believe Jackie has all the talent she needed to become as big as a star as Olivia Rodrigo is now but she had such terrible management I believe Jackie was very talented. But it was the talent of a child star and it expired when she became an adult. She can still be a modest success but no amount of management can make her a star like Rodrigo. Jackie doesn't have the charisma of a pop star. |
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Post by amg1977 on May 9, 2024 10:47:12 GMT -5
Dislikes don't show up so there could be hundreds of them.
If you use the Firefox browser, there is a plug-in you can add that makes the YouTube dislike counts visible. In the case of the video in question ("Smoking Gun"), the current count is 448 likes, 5 dislikes.
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Post by amg1977 on May 9, 2024 11:17:28 GMT -5
Saturday Night Live poked fun at JoJo Siwa last week. OK, it's low hanging fruit but Chloe Fineman nailed JoJo's mannerisms, phonetic difficulties, and desperation to have people think she's edgy. On the other hand, I guess JoJo can get over it by counting her money.
It's kind of ironic ... lots of pop singers would love to have all the attention and financial success JoJo has achieved while JoJo longs to be one of the "cool kids." As Mick Jagger once sang, "you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need."
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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 11:35:40 GMT -5
Saturday Night Live poked fun at JoJo Siwa last week. OK, it's low hanging fruit but Chloe Fineman nailed JoJo's mannerisms, phonetic difficulties, and desperation to have people think she's edgy. On the other hand, I guess JoJo can get over it by counting her money.
It's kind of ironic ... lots of pop singers would love to have all the attention and financial success JoJo has achieved while JoJo longs to be one of the "cool kids." As Mick Jagger once sang, "you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need."
She did a great job capturing her annoying personality. lol |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 11:37:39 GMT -5
If you use the Firefox browser, there is a plug-in you can add that makes the YouTube dislike counts visible. In the case of the video in question ("Smoking Gun"), the current count is 448 likes, 5 dislikes. It is important to realize that the extension doesn't actually show dislike counts, it only provides a guesstimate. The extension tracks the like/dislike votes of everyone who has installed the extension and voted on this video. It assumes that this sample is representative of everyone who has watched the video and it then makes a guesstimate of the dislike count based on its sample. |
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Post by richard on May 9, 2024 12:05:25 GMT -5
I don't think that Jackie's fans can claim both that she has great talent and wonder management after where she is now and being a professional singer for 13 years. You can't have it both ways. Either she never really had the talent and her management was great and did the best they could or Jackie was/is very talented but just has/had very poor management. Personally I believe Jackie has all the talent she needed to become as big as a star as Olivia Rodrigo is now but she had such terrible management and people who micro-controlled her life over the years. Yes she may have problems with personality and charisma but a lot of that could have been taught and her not being able to mingle with her own peers is a lot of that problem. You can't teach personality or charisma...it's something you have or you don't have. Jackie is who she is, and that wouldn't have changed with better management. If you think they could have taught her to be more fake and try to appear as someone else...Jackie's not that good of an actor. lol Now, I do agree that better management decisions could definitely have been made, but ultimately would that have really changed her career trajectory? I personally don't believe that Jackie really has as strong pop voice, and I'm not at all convinced she could have been a pop star with different management. I do think however, that better mgmt probably would have extended the life of the career she was enjoying and mabye even given her a large cc fan base. Yes you can there are a lot of school and trainers that can help you with that. Why have so many dancers became singers and actors including Sarah Brightman. For one thing they are usually with many kids their own age in an environment where they can interact with others. There is acting school and singing schools there are even schools that companies send managers to so that they can speak with large crowds. Everything I have seen showed that Jackie work very well with others her age until she went to High School. Jackie had enough charisma that she had enough following her on Youtube that she got on AGT.
Am I the only one that remember all the people saying Jackie will go to Juilliard when she is old enough.
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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 12:11:14 GMT -5
You can't teach personality or charisma...it's something you have or you don't have. Jackie is who she is, and that wouldn't have changed with better management. If you think they could have taught her to be more fake and try to appear as someone else...Jackie's not that good of an actor. lol Now, I do agree that better management decisions could definitely have been made, but ultimately would that have really changed her career trajectory? I personally don't believe that Jackie really has as strong pop voice, and I'm not at all convinced she could have been a pop star with different management. I do think however, that better mgmt probably would have extended the life of the career she was enjoying and mabye even given her a large cc fan base. Yes you can there are a lot of school and trainers that can help you with that. Why have so many dancers became singers and actors including Sarah Brightman. For one thing they are usually with many kids their own age in an environment where they can interact with others. There is acting school and singing schools there are even schools that companies send managers to so that they can speak with large crowds. Everything I have seen showed that Jackie work very well with others her age until she went to High School. Jackie had enough charisma that she had enough following her on Youtube that she got on AGT. Well, I guess we'll never know if things would have been substantially different. lol |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 12:42:36 GMT -5
Everything I have seen showed that Jackie work very well with others her age until she went to High School. But mental issues often show up in adolescence or adulthood. The fact that she was fine at age 10 does not mean she won't have problems later. Jackie had enough charisma that she had enough following her on Youtube that she got on AGT To have charisma, a child needs to look really cute, be docile and be obedient. That fit Jackie perfectly. Adult charisma requires social skills and edginess and probably a few other qualities. That doesn't fit Jackie. |
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Post by colt46 on May 9, 2024 13:20:48 GMT -5
You can blame Jackie’s parents for not developing her social skills! I remember Darci Lynne having the same problem when she was young , her mother helped her with that by putting her in different activities and look at Darci now !
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