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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 22:04:54 GMT -5
Yes, you have to do that, but your deletions are skewed towards anyone but disappointed and eulenspiegel, who have a long history of personal attacks. Please be at least more balanced and consistent about it. Everyone knows that doxing is just about the most dangerous behavior anyone can do in a forum, and yet, you allow it. Makes no sense. Yes, doxing shouldn't be allowed anywhere and I was stunned that it wasn't deleted. If socal's ever doxed, that'll disappear pretty darn fast. I'm not sure who was doxed, but Socal has made it very clear that doxing is not allowed on this forum.
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 22:10:19 GMT -5
your deletions are skewed towards anyone but disappointed and eulenspiegel Disappointed and eulenspiegel spend most of the time attacking Jackie. Which, obviously, is not off-topic. Everyone knows that doxing is just about the most dangerous behavior anyone can do in a forum, and yet, you allow it. Who was doxed, and when? If I missed it, I will delete it.
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Post by richard on May 9, 2024 22:10:38 GMT -5
That's not necessarily true, to this day my 3 closest friends are from my high school days. I also keep in touch with several people that I became friends with while working. And most young people have a lot of friends and enjoy parties, I know you don't believe that but it's true. You clearly were and still are not exactly a party animal, and that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with having good friends. Actually, it's not true for a lot of younger people this generation. In fact, there has been a lot of talk about how lonely this gen Z generation is. Between spending all their time talking on their phones and using social media, and the several years of covid shutdowns, there are a lot young people with few to no young friends who dont go out much at all...sounds like more than ever before. It's sad and unhealthy, but true apparently. It is sad that Jackie and her fans seem so depressed.
Maddie Ziegler started younger than Jackie and was 100 times more in the public eye.
Like she said you have to find your core group. But really that goes for all kids.
What a concept that Jackie and her older fans I guess will never understand.
Kenzie Ziegler says: throw a dinner party for your friends to show how much you love them <3
Nobody seems as happy as much as Kenzie and if she is filling down her friends will will come over and cheer her up.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 9, 2024 22:10:52 GMT -5
Yes, doxing shouldn't be allowed anywhere and I was stunned that it wasn't deleted. If socal's ever doxed, that'll disappear pretty darn fast. I'm not sure who was doxed, but Socal has made it very clear that doxing is not allowed on this forum. You are one of four who were doxed. I asked him to delete the post twice, but I was ignored jackie-amazon.proboards.com/post/86137
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Post by msims on May 9, 2024 22:18:45 GMT -5
Actually, I can see why he didn't like The Debut and every album after that...I didn't much like The Debut either, primarily due to selection of songs she chose to sing (Not into Broadway songs, esp. not those). Now, I personally liked some of the songs on COT and on this new EP....so I disagree with him there that everything since sucked. But, I respect and understand the comment. He's also correct that Dream With Me was her best album. For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it.It's hilarious to watch you twist and turn facts to use them in your fantasy theories, but keep doing it please because it gives us belly laughs. What fantasy theories, such as that you're a fan? And this is what happens when you let your child be exposed to predators online: Bender Cait, be sure to turn in tonight:
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 22:20:37 GMT -5
You're right. That's how most other artists handle this type of question. Hopefully, she will learn to respond like that soon. She won't, not on her own, she needs to be taught, and so far no one has seen the need for it. That's too bad. From watching the interviews, it is clear that Jackie's handlers did not prepare her for the interviews. I suspect Team E is not aware of this issue or they would have done something about it. But interview skills don't develop automatically. It requires hours of careful preparation and practice. If anyone has any contacts in Team E, they should raise this issue with Team E.
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Post by msims on May 9, 2024 22:23:09 GMT -5
your deletions are skewed towards anyone but disappointed and eulenspiegel Disappointed and eulenspiegel spend most of the time attacking Jackie. Which, obviously, is not off-topic. Personal attacks/ad hominem are off topic in any forum, but if its directed at her music or direction etc that has long been on topic.
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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 22:23:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure who was doxed, but Socal has made it very clear that doxing is not allowed on this forum. You are one of four who were doxed. I asked him to delete the post twice, but I was ignored jackie-amazon.proboards.com/post/86137Someone tried to dox four of us at once? loL..wtf? Nobody has tried that garbage here in a while. Who was the doxer, and was he/she banned for being a pathetic loser? Everyone here knows better than that and it should result in an instant IP ban...period, no discussion.
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Post by Phony Phan Jackinator on May 9, 2024 22:29:00 GMT -5
For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it. It's hilarious to watch you twist and turn facts to use them in your fantasy theories, but keep doing it please because it gives us belly laughs. What fantasy theories, such as that you're a fan? I said that I'm not a phan. You can see that in my name. I am a phony phan and proud of it.And this is what happens when you let your child be exposed to predators online. Thank you for reinforcing my point for me. This post shows Grace being involved directly in her social media. Richard and I suggestedd that she should have had a larger social media presence by now and that she herself did not need to be directly connected with fans that way. Her questionable management team should have been expanding her social media all of these years. (Jackie wouldn't have been involved, get it?)
Jackie herself lamented recently about the small number of followers she has because it has prevented her from getting concert gigs.
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Post by Phony Phan Jackinator on May 9, 2024 22:36:25 GMT -5
Disappointed and eulenspiegel spend most of the time attacking Jackie. Which, obviously, is not off-topic. Personal attacks/ad hominem are off topic in any forum, but if its directed at her music or direction etc that has long been on topic. As it should be
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Post by msims on May 9, 2024 22:42:47 GMT -5
Richard (its Rickky btw) and I suggested that she should have had a larger social media presence by now and that she herself did not need to be directly connected with fans that way. It does not matter what a couple of trolls think, who have no facts. Classical Crossover is music that has charted on multiple different types of charts. Its a mixture of genres and vocal or instrumental styles including classical. Classical may be the base or may not. You could have Lindsey Stirling or Groban who does not perform any classical type of material or you could have Pavarotti but they are all CC. Because they are popular. Jackie became popular, she had a viral video and thats all she needed. CC is aimed at a PBS demo, morning/daytime tv. So OLDER WOMEN are the main demo. Those who post in the forums do not represent the entire fan base and never have. There are of course songbook type of material. You dont have to be a CC singer to sing The Prayer, its alot of pop artists who perform that song and pop artists have performed Ave Maria as well, such as Beyonce. Saying uneducated things for attention is the wrong way about approaching a forum.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 9, 2024 22:45:18 GMT -5
She won't, not on her own, she needs to be taught, and so far no one has seen the need for it. That's too bad. From watching the interviews, it is clear that Jackie's handlers did not prepare her for the interviews. I suspect Team E is not aware of this issue or they would have done something about it. But interview skills don't develop automatically. It requires hours of careful preparation and practice. If anyone has any contacts in Team E, they should raise this issue with Team E. The phenomenon of Jackie being asked about AGT or how she got started have gone on for years and years and Team E is not bright enough to recognize the problem. Fans have been complaining about this problem in every forum starting in the first one. None of us get paychecks by working in the entertainment business, and yet we can all see the issue of dwelling in the past when the stated objective is to move forward.
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Post by donkey on May 9, 2024 22:45:20 GMT -5
Personal attacks/ad hominem are off topic in any forum, but if its directed at her music or direction etc that has long been on topic. As it should be All views about Jackie are fair game, from Jackie hater to OTT and everything in between. lol
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Post by colt46 on May 9, 2024 22:51:15 GMT -5
I don’t think if someone wanted physical harm to happen to Jackie is fair game ! So if someone on this forum ever says they want Jackie to suffer from physical harm they should be banned from this forum!
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Post by Phony Phan Jackinator on May 9, 2024 22:52:52 GMT -5
Richard (its Rickky btw) and I suggested that she should have had a larger social media presence by now and that she herself did not need to be directly connected with fans that way. It does not matter what a couple of trolls think, who have no facts. Classical Crossover is music that has charted on multiple different types of charts. Its a mixture of genres and vocal or instrumental styles including classical. Classical may be the base or may not. You could have Lindsey Stirling or Groban who does not perform any classical type of material or you could have Pavarotti but they are all CC. Because they are popular. Jackie became popular, she had a viral video and thats all she needed. CC is aimed at a PBS demo, morning/daytime tv. So OLDER WOMEN are the main demo. Those who post in the forums do not represent the entire fan base and never have. There are of course songbook type of material. You dont have to be a CC singer to sing The Prayer, its alot of pop artists who perform that song and pop artists have performed Ave Maria as well, such as Beyonce. Saying uneducated things for attention is the wrong way about approaching a forum. Thanks for pointing that out about the Prayer. I never made the argument that the Prayer should be performed by only CC singers, so you are wasting brain cells there. If I need attention, this is the last place I go, especially when it comes to nauseating OTT people like yourself. Unlike you, I relied on statements by Jackie herself to acquire evidence evidence for my point. The only evidence needed for this argument is when Jackie said that she is prevented from booking concerts because the low number of followers she has in her social media followers. If you want to squirm around and twist the facts to suit your own blind way of approaching the world, go for it.
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