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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 23:01:49 GMT -5
To: Jackinator
My apologies for not responding to you - it was unintentional. This thread is the only thread that I regularly read. I read other threads only occasionally and by chance. This applies especially to the Beachguy threads which I almost never read because they do not interest me.
So anyone who wants to talk to me should send me a PM or post in this General Discussion thread.
To answer your questions: (1) Doxing is not allowed and I have deleted the posts you have identified in the Beachguy threads. If I have missed any posts, please inform me and I will delete them. (2) If you feel I have been unfairly lenient to eulenspiegel or anyone else, please post a link to the offending posts and I will look at them again.
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Post by msims on May 9, 2024 23:03:29 GMT -5
It does not matter what a couple of trolls think, who have no facts. Classical Crossover is music that has charted on multiple different types of charts. Its a mixture of genres and vocal or instrumental styles including classical. Classical may be the base or may not. You could have Lindsey Stirling or Groban who does not perform any classical type of material or you could have Pavarotti but they are all CC. Because they are popular. Jackie became popular, she had a viral video and thats all she needed. CC is aimed at a PBS demo, morning/daytime tv. So OLDER WOMEN are the main demo. Those who post in the forums do not represent the entire fan base and never have. There are of course songbook type of material. You dont have to be a CC singer to sing The Prayer, its alot of pop artists who perform that song and pop artists have performed Ave Maria as well, such as Beyonce. Saying uneducated things for attention is the wrong way about approaching a forum. Thanks for pointing that out about the Prayer. I never made the argument that the Prayer should be performed by only CC singers, so you are wasting brain cells there. If I need attention, this is the last place I go, especially when it comes to nauseating OTT people like yourself. Unlike you, I relied on statements by Jackie herself to acquire evidence evidence for my point. The only evidence needed for this argument is when Jackie said that she is prevented from booking concerts because the low number of followers she has in her social media followers. If a former Agent said they cant book her because of her social media followers. You fire their a**. Jackie just said in an interview about tour dates: "We're in the process of working on that. Just keep an eye out for it" Your response to seeing a child who was exposed to predators and was lashing out, is that it proved your point. You arent a bright guy. As far as me being an OTT, thats stupid. Im neutral and its all about the facts, but trolls cannot produce facts because its all a game to you. Set your DVR, Caz. |
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Post by The Jackinator on May 9, 2024 23:16:30 GMT -5
To: Jackinator My apologies for not responding to you - it was unintentional. This thread is the only thread that I regularly read. I read other threads only occasionally and by chance. This applies especially to the Beachguy threads which I almost never read because they do not interest me. So anyone who wants to talk to me should send me a PM or post in this General Discussion thread. To answer your questions: (1) Doxing is not allowed and I have deleted the posts you have identified in the Beachguy threads. If I have missed any posts, please inform me and I will delete them. (2) If you feel I have been unfairly lenient to eulenspiegel or anyone else, please send me a link to the offending posts and I will look at them again. Thanks Socalfan. I (mistakenly) assumed that everyone read the forum posts the way I do. When I come to the forum, I go to the home page and then click "recent" to see what has been discussed here and then work back in time. That way I get a chance to see what has been posted in every thread. I was getting a bit frustrated that the dox posts were not removed and that some of my posts were being deleted, so, that led me to call you "obstinate". It helps to know that you don't go into the Beachguy forum (understandably so) and that's why you did not catch the doxing posts. It's appreciated that you are e open to discussion about the deleted posts - and just so you know, overall, you do a good job being fair to everyone. |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 9, 2024 23:21:49 GMT -5
What post would be over the line when talking about Jackie and would be removed? I don’t think if someone wanted physical harm to happen to Jackie is fair game ! So if someone on this forum ever says they want Jackie to suffer from physical harm they should be banned from this forum! Such posts would have to be dealt with on a case by case basis. But so far, I have not seen such posts and I don't expect to see them. |
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Post by The Jackinator on May 9, 2024 23:25:55 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing that out about the Prayer. I never made the argument that the Prayer should be performed by only CC singers, so you are wasting brain cells there. If I need attention, this is the last place I go, especially when it comes to nauseating OTT people like yourself. Unlike you, I relied on statements by Jackie herself to acquire evidence evidence for my point. The only evidence needed for this argument is when Jackie said that she is prevented from booking concerts because the low number of followers she has in her social media followers. If a former Agent said they cant book her because of her social media followers. You fire their a**. Jackie just said in an interview about tour dates: "We're in the process of working on that. Just keep an eye out for it" Your response to seeing a child who was exposed to predators and was lashing out, is that it proved your point. You arent a bright guy. (For the third time, Jackie should not have been directly involved with her social media when she was young, but her management team should have been. Grace should NOT have been directly involved with her social media accounts when she was younger, but she was in your example. Get it?)As far as me being an OTT, thats stupid. Im neutral and its all about the facts, but trolls cannot produce facts because its all a game to you. Set your DVR, Caz. |
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Post by Disappointed on May 9, 2024 23:43:27 GMT -5
Caz says to tell you the Betamax is fired up and ready, Simsy! |
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Post by BOGC on May 10, 2024 0:22:02 GMT -5
Friends are fine, and the occasional get-together, heck, even I do that once or twice a year, just to see how everyone's doing. But mostly sitting and eating and conversation, and not too much of the latter. People are too hard to calculate. That's fine, but that's you. But you always seem to have a problem with other people who are more outgoing and enjoy more of a social life as if that's a bad thing. It's not always a bad thing. But at best, people are at least as likely to be a bad influence as a good one. So maybe 1/3 of gatherings are supportive of those gathered, and the rest are somewhere from harmless to harmful. Be selective, don't just go to everything to maximize visibility and networking and be one of the "in" crowd. In other words, hang out with the reliable, not the flashy. |
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Post by richard on May 10, 2024 0:25:57 GMT -5
If a former Agent said they cant book her because of her social media followers. You fire their a**. Jackie just said in an interview about tour dates: "We're in the process of working on that. Just keep an eye out for it" No you have a venue like the Wineries or night club like 54 below that need lets say 500 people to break even and Jackie only brings in 200 or even worse they have to cancel a day. Then you fire the agent after asking why he booked her since she only has a few following her. Other artist has stated the same thing about getting gigs with low numbers. You take Jenna Ortega for instance ( the girl that made the TikTok dance) her following grew so fast it was as if they were going to pull her apart wanting her to represent different products, she even made a Superbowl commercial. Jenna Ortega must have just finished up making Beetlejuice 2 and was given a major role in Wednesday 2 which started filming yesterday for Neflex. It's foolish in this day and age to think the number of fans a person has doesn't matter. |
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Post by msims on May 10, 2024 0:30:15 GMT -5
"After AGT she had maybe 10,000 followers on twitter" Correction: she had less than a 1,000 during agt and it rised to over 3,000 prior to OHN   |
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Post by Socal Fan on May 10, 2024 0:35:54 GMT -5
Thanks Socalfan. I (mistakenly) assumed that everyone read the forum posts the way I do. When I come to the forum, I go to the home page and then click "recent" to see what has been discussed here and then work back in time. That way I get a chance to see what has been posted in every thread. I was getting a bit frustrated that the dox posts were not removed and that some of my posts were being deleted, so, that led me to call you "obstinate". It helps to know that you don't go into the Beachguy forum (understandably so) and that's why you did not catch the doxing posts. It's appreciated that you are e open to discussion about the deleted posts - and just so you know, overall, you do a good job being fair to everyone. Thanks. |
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Post by Grace Fan on May 10, 2024 3:01:27 GMT -5
For example, it looks like every CC artist had to have "The Prayer" in their repertoire and then perform that song over and over until everyone had grown tired of it. It's hilarious to watch you twist and turn facts to use them in your fantasy theories, but keep doing it please because it gives us belly laughs. What fantasy theories, such as that you're a fan? And this is what happens when you let your child be exposed to predators online:  Bender Cait, be sure to turn in tonight:  You don't get to use Grace's moment of her standing up for herself against said predators when she was 16 to support whatever bs claim you're making, when before all you did was repeatedly use this same screenshot to claim she was attacking her actual fans. |
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Post by colt46 on May 10, 2024 8:38:48 GMT -5
Jackie is my favorite singer, but I know her limitations and she has problems, msims acts like everything is going just fine! Well no they are not! Jackie still can’t sell out even small venues! You have to have butts in seats 💺 and plenty of them the more seats 💺 you sell the more money 💰 you get! So until Jackie has full houses again she has problems! Also giving one or two concerts a year won’t cut it either!
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Post by Socal Fan on May 10, 2024 8:55:53 GMT -5
Review of Jackie's Nightline Appearance Eve of 5/9/2024 after midnight Nightline said that this program was part of Mental Health Awareness Month. Jackie's segment was slightly less than 7 mins long. She did not sing on this program but there were lots of flashbacks of her singing. They discussed her mental health and Solla, mostly focusing on BME. 7 mins in the wee hours of the morning will not make much of an impact on her career. This is Google Trends for the 24 hr period starting at 9:12 am on the morning of Thu 5/9/2024 (click to view):  For perspective, this is the last 7 days (click to view):  |
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Post by colt46 on May 10, 2024 9:18:57 GMT -5
I am still glad Jackie did the interview even if not many viewed it !
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Post by colt46 on May 10, 2024 9:20:39 GMT -5
Hey Jackie is not ever going to be a superstar, just have a small niche in the music industry where she can make a living!
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