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Post by msims on Jul 2, 2024 20:50:25 GMT -5
To quote Bill Clinton "facts and history matter." What has the bots triggered is I said: Jackie can draw audiences and thats a fact.
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Post by ChrisR on Jul 2, 2024 21:20:19 GMT -5
To quote Bill Clinton "facts and history matter." What has the bots triggered is I said: Jackie can draw audiences and thats a fact. Having an accurate historical record of Jackie's career is also extremely important. You unfortunately tend to embellish the historical record.
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Post by richard on Jul 2, 2024 21:37:11 GMT -5
Jackie's career is on the ropes, she is not getting enough work and the venues are small. Jackie is not getting endorsement and other gigs like the other artist, and there is no way Mike would be thinking of leaving Jackie and moving to Italy with out Jackie if she could still afford to keep him on.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 2, 2024 21:54:30 GMT -5
Another problem with being an opening act is who would she open for? Not singers who perform in arenas, she's not a very big draw at this point in time. Jackie could draw audiences no problem either as an opener or headliner or co-headliner and shes done that for years. Talent will always attract people and that includes industry people. I also said just her and Jorn would do just fine in Vegas. There is no room for pessimism in an artists discussion btw.I agree, Jackie's future as an artist is dimming day by day
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 2, 2024 21:57:14 GMT -5
We're into the Blame the Venue page of msims' excuses manual. Oh yeah, I found it. it's on page 114, section 43, tab D. Hold on, I thought we were still on the Blame the Parents page.
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Post by donkey on Jul 2, 2024 22:05:13 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I found it. it's on page 114, section 43, tab D. Hold on, I thought we were still on the Blame the Parents page. No no no, that's page 58, section 3, tab F.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 2, 2024 23:26:16 GMT -5
I agree, Jackie's future as an artist is dimming day by day I think there is some hope as long as Jackie is able to continue to perform concerts such as Ocean City NJ, Spring TX, Pittsburgh Christmas concerts, and the occasional sunbelt concert. Whether she can maintain these concerts remains to be seen. The lack of Ocean City this summer is a significant loss. But we will have to wait and see what else, if anything, is affected.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 2, 2024 23:38:00 GMT -5
Speaking of Ocean City, I really wonder what happened there. Her annual summer concerts had been quite successful so I can't think of any reason why they were not continued.
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Post by donkey on Jul 2, 2024 23:40:25 GMT -5
Speaking of Ocean City, I really wonder what happened there. Her annual summer concerts had been quite successful so I can't think of any reason why they were not continued. I bet she does it next summer. Mabye she wanted to do something different this year, and opted for 54 below instead for her summer show.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 3, 2024 0:07:24 GMT -5
Mabye she wanted to do something different this year, and opted for 54 below instead for her summer show. If so, she would have done both. She needs the money so I can't imagine that it was her choice.
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 3, 2024 1:29:12 GMT -5
Speaking of Ocean City, I really wonder what happened there. Her annual summer concerts had been quite successful so I can't think of any reason why they were not continued. I bet she does it next summer. Mabye she wanted to do something different this year, and opted for 54 below instead for her summer show. My guess is they got tired of her (and for good reason) and that old lady who was obsessed with her and had some clout got outvoted. Her concerts there were only successful because she performed with the popular local Pops orchestra and there was a major annual boat festival event, not because of her. And I am still laughing so hard at Donkey's explanation, I can't even comment on it. LOL.
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Post by msims on Jul 3, 2024 2:12:09 GMT -5
How would you know what she needs Soc? Are you talking to your voodoo doll?
As I was saying earlier and ive already said prior to last weekend.
One could just glance at the 54 Below instagram and see that there are a number of musical theater type shows and some quite a bit gay so that is typically the audience demo there, which is younger as well. There was also Trump comments when 54 would advertise the show so its a more liberal audience and NY just seems quite liberal these days. I think that she did very well attendance wise given those issues and I either said or didn't that she should have been booked in NJ and at any theater and she would have sold hundreds more but instead it was all about the live stream, of course fair weather fans dropped their schtick. My theory is Jackie just didnt want to sing to an audience of older people but who cares. OC she cant just play three years in a row. Ive also stated that Celtic Woman has fewer social media followers and is able to book tours. If her representation is still saying that its about followers and hits, then they should be fired.
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Post by X Kussez on Jul 3, 2024 2:34:06 GMT -5
How would you know what she needs Soc? Are you talking to your voodoo doll? As I was saying earlier and ive already said prior to last weekend. One could just glance at the 54 Below instagram and see that there are a number of musical theater type shows and some quite a bit gay so that is typically the audience demo there, which is younger as well. There was also Trump comments when 54 would advertise the show so its a more liberal audience and NY just seems quite liberal these days. I think that she did very well attendance wise given those issues and I either said or didn't that she should have been booked in NJ and at any theater and she would have sold hundreds more but instead it was all about the live stream, of course fair weather fans dropped their schtick. My theory is Jackie just didnt want to sing to an audience of older people but who cares. OC she cant just play three years in a row. Ive also stated that Celtic Woman has fewer social media followers and is able to book tours. If her representation is still saying that its about followers and hits, then they should be fired. Excuses: - gay younger audience demo didn't show up, because gay - liberal NY audience didn't show up, because liberal - shoulda coulda booked NJ instead, because potential larger NJ audience caused small NYC audience - fair weather fans didn't show up, because not fans? - Jackie didn't do NJ because she didn't want to, because old people - She can't play three years in a row, because it's a rule apparently Celtic Woman has fewer followers but able to tour. Have you seen their shows? Babeage x4, musicians, choirs, stagecraft. They put on a show. Here's my excuse: They have a higher percentage of active followers (i.e., fewer fickle AGT followers who followed during peak excitement and then languished, resulting in large number of inactive fans. Oh yes, I see now, Jackie's fair weather fans, you're right!)
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Post by colt46 on Jul 3, 2024 4:29:29 GMT -5
Jackinator you sure full of sunshine ☀️ with all this doom and gloom talk! You will just have talk about another singer than won’t you!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 3, 2024 4:34:45 GMT -5
msims you need a interpreter to figure out what he is saying, sounds like pig Latin!
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