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Post by richard on Jul 4, 2024 16:53:51 GMT -5
The clock is ticking and fast. She should have come out with a full alt-pop album instead of Solla and promoted her new direction with a lot of fanfare. What she is now is a ship going nowhere and it will take another 2-3 years to correct the direction. She should already be a full-blown pop artist at this point. LOL and the Captain of that ship grabbed the last life jacket. And is now in Italy laying on the Beach. Leaving Jackie behind. The more I see of Mike the less respect I have for him.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 4, 2024 17:12:15 GMT -5
Where are all of those songs that she wrote as a kid? She would have gone nowhere. She was too young. There have been loads of young kids on talent shows who can really sing, but most just disappear. She only made it as far as she did because of the music she was singing. Besides, she said that she didn't have a pop voice, probably because of the way her AGT coach taught her how so sing, and it stuck. Any songs she would have written as a kid would likely not be relevant or interesting to her today as an adult. Imagine anything you wrote or thought about as a 10-15 year old. You think you would still be into it or be able to relate to it, or want to record and release it as a 24 year old? Not likely. And her writing skills and vocabulary would have increased hugely since she was a kid as well, in addition to her maturity level, interests and focus. I understand all of that which is exactly why she stuck with CC as a child. There was no other option.
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Post by donkey on Jul 4, 2024 17:29:42 GMT -5
The one thing I don't think you get is that Jackie is very proud of her career and all the songs that she had success with and the legendary singers she dueted with. She has shown zero interest in moving on past all of that in her concerts. Obviously she doesnt want to be seen as a kid anymore, but her catalog of material IS who she is and IS what her entire career, especially the most successful part, was built upon. Sure, she is getting to live her dream of writing, recording, and releasing some original music as an adult, but it's not really doing that well in the market place, and she seems to still lack confidence in singing it live to some degree. I think her song writing is more likely a footnote to her career, not a new chapter. I agree, her cc career is in its death throes, however, she can likely do a small handful of concerts/shows a year for years to come as she has been the last few years and make a living with it. Who knows, mabye some big opportunity will fall in her lap eventually...a one off...where she gets to be in a movie or gets to sing a duet with some legendary pop star...who knows. But to think Jackie is going become some kind of successful pop singer, while possible, is highly unlikely imo. She doesn't have the mind set or skill set for that. She would have to make some huge changes to make a serious run at that, and I haven't seen any signs of that from Jackie. Being proud of one's career doesn't put fannies in the seats. We don't see a line of people waiting for Jackie to sing OMBC, Somewhere and Music of the Night for umpteenth time. If she doesn't want to be seen as a kid, it's time to let that music go and move on. Part of the reason her new music is not doing well is because she is trying to both cling to the past and attempting to reinvent herself. Jackie can gain confidence in her new material the same way anyone gains confidence: practice. You're right, her chances of becoming a pop star are very low, but her chances of becoming a total has-been is 100% if she stays on the current course. "becoming a total has-been"? LoL...look, I love Jackie to death, but she has been in total has-been territory for years already.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 4, 2024 18:22:13 GMT -5
As I suggested, she should seek gigs as a supporting artist to get exposure to audiences who already like the style she has chosen. I assume that Jackie's advisors and managers, including Greg Camp and others at Melody Place, are fully aware that Jackie is a newcomer to pop and has to start at the bottom. An obvious path is what you have suggested - being a supporting act to better known artists. BME was first released in early Sep 2023. I assume that Team E has been working on a concert tour of some kind, any kind, since then. Unfortunately, their efforts in the last 10 months have been unsuccessful so far other than a few minor concerts. But why? It seems to me that Jackie's CC career has declined to the point that she is unable to get any significant CC gigs. And her pop career has not yet advanced to the point where she is able to get any significant pop gigs. I'm sure her team has tried to get supporting pop gigs but without any success so far. At this point, there is nothing for her team to do other than keep plugging away and hope for a breakthrough. Does anyone have any more ideas?
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Post by richard on Jul 4, 2024 18:39:28 GMT -5
As I suggested, she should seek gigs as a supporting artist to get exposure to audiences who already like the style she has chosen. I assume that Jackie's advisors and managers, including Greg Camp and others at Melody Place, are fully aware that Jackie is a newcomer to pop and has to start at the bottom. An obvious path is what you have suggested - being a supporting act to better known artists. BME was first released in early Sep 2023. I assume that Team E has been working on a concert tour of some kind, any kind, since then. Unfortunately, their efforts in the last 10 months have been unsuccessful so far other than a few minor concerts. But why? It seems to me that Jackie's CC career has declined to the point that she is unable to get any significant CC gigs. And her pop career has not yet advanced to the point where she is able to get any significant pop gigs. I'm sure her team has tried to get supporting pop gigs but without any success so far. At this point, there is nothing for her team to do other than keep plugging away and hope for a breakthrough. Does anyone have any more ideas? You can bet Mike is working as hard as possible on it.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 4, 2024 18:46:52 GMT -5
I assume that Jackie's advisors and managers, including Greg Camp and others at Melody Place, are fully aware that Jackie is a newcomer to pop and has to start at the bottom. An obvious path is what you have suggested - being a supporting act to better known artists. BME was first released in early Sep 2023. I assume that Team E has been working on a concert tour of some kind, any kind, since then. Unfortunately, their efforts in the last 10 months have been unsuccessful so far other than a few minor concerts. But why? It seems to me that Jackie's CC career has declined to the point that she is unable to get any significant CC gigs. And her pop career has not yet advanced to the point where she is able to get any significant pop gigs. I'm sure her team has tried to get supporting pop gigs but without any success so far. At this point, there is nothing for her team to do other than keep plugging away and hope for a breakthrough. Does anyone have any more ideas? You can bet Mike is working as hard as possible on it.
I’d like to know where he’s getting the money to just bum around on the beach.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 4, 2024 18:50:15 GMT -5
Mike has used Jackie got what he wanted and has now has cast her aside! I have no respect for Mike Evancho he didn’t do his job as a parent in my book ! Her mother went off the deep end divorced Mike and ended up with what ? I can’t say it !
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Post by donkey on Jul 4, 2024 18:55:55 GMT -5
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Post by colt46 on Jul 4, 2024 18:58:31 GMT -5
The one thing in Jackie’s favor is that she is 24 years old, I just hope she get enough boost in her career that she can have modest success and do some concerts! Christmas seems to be good for her , she does sing that type of music very well ! She should start mid November all the way through December with Christmas Concerts not just one or two!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 4, 2024 19:01:21 GMT -5
I would rather see Jackie singing at the capital 4th in WashingtonDC! OH BY THE WAY LOREN ALLRED WILL BE PERFORMING TONIGHT ON PBS A CAPITOL 4th, watch her and let me know what you think of her !
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 4, 2024 19:04:06 GMT -5
Definitely loving that blonde hair on Jackie, and I bet she popped that cork right after that picture was taken. 🍺
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 4, 2024 19:12:04 GMT -5
Definitely loving that blonde hair on Jackie, and I bet she popped that cork right after that picture was taken. 🍺 Yeah, I like her in blonde hair too.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 4, 2024 19:14:38 GMT -5
You can bet Mike is working as hard as possible on it.
I’d like to know where he’s getting the money to just bum around on the beach. Gold digging - it's what he knows - either from his daughter or his GF - he's mastered the art
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 4, 2024 19:17:10 GMT -5
Being proud of one's career doesn't put fannies in the seats. We don't see a line of people waiting for Jackie to sing OMBC, Somewhere and Music of the Night for umpteenth time. If she doesn't want to be seen as a kid, it's time to let that music go and move on. Part of the reason her new music is not doing well is because she is trying to both cling to the past and attempting to reinvent herself. Jackie can gain confidence in her new material the same way anyone gains confidence: practice. You're right, her chances of becoming a pop star are very low, but her chances of becoming a total has-been is 100% if she stays on the current course. "becoming a total has-been"? LoL...look, I love Jackie to death, but she has been in total has-been territory for years already. Yeah - I'd put her at a 99% has-been. She did get a couple of people to watch at 54 Below
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Post by richard on Jul 4, 2024 20:49:16 GMT -5
Jackie's usual Holiday
Then we have one of those Ziegler girls that will be socially awkward because unlike Jackie they home schooled.
http://instagram.com/p/C9BSe62P1V- Kenzie didn't pay $1.3 million for her house to not enjoy with her friends. Kenzie seems to either be throwing a party or going on Vacation with her friends.
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