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Post by richard on Jul 10, 2024 17:24:35 GMT -5
The show, the treatment of the kids ..the behavior of the teacher, parents were toxic, irresponsible..btw.Maddie Ziegler told in recent interviews…that it was so… There are many sicko experts on US Tv…just money making loonies..for the ratngs The Ziegler girls left Dance Moms way behind and don't even mention it unless someone asks them about it. It was just a stepping stone like AGT should have been for Jackie now. Maddie left Dance Moms and became a Judge on So You Think You can Dance.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 10, 2024 17:50:15 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel you sure like attacking people don’t you, why don’t you look in the mirror 🪞, none of us humans are perfect we all make mistakes! She treated her daughters like shit..not one year..not two years…no 6 seasons…6 years..this ist not a mistake..this is a crime.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 10, 2024 18:57:08 GMT -5
why are you deleting entertainment posts? even Adele and Ed Sheeran in the stands This is not about entertainment, this is about soccer. Adele and Ed Sheeran are in the stands watching soccer, they are not performing. The post is off topic. Also - this is not a forum about white trash, or child abuse or people without talent. That is off topic. From now on, those off topic posts will be deleted.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 10, 2024 19:03:18 GMT -5
I go after Mike Evancho because in my opinion he has made bad decisions that has affected Jackie and her career! You go after Mike Evancho because you refuse to hold Jackie accountable for her own career. Even though she became an adult 6 years ago. So Mike has now become a necessary and convenient scapegoat for everything wrong with Jackie's career.
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Post by richard on Jul 10, 2024 19:21:23 GMT -5
I go after Mike Evancho because in my opinion he has made bad decisions that has affected Jackie and her career! You go after Mike Evancho because you refuse to hold Jackie accountable for her own career. Even though she became an adult 6 years ago. So Mike has now become a necessary and convenient scapegoat for everything wrong with Jackie's career. Well Jackie did have a choice to do what she wanted when she turned 18. But you have to remember Jackie was pretty much kept in a box compared to others and became reliant on Mike for everything. It will be interesting to see what changes Jackie has if Mike does move to Italy (possibly Christina and Sophia already live there).
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Post by donkey on Jul 10, 2024 19:22:15 GMT -5
I go after Mike Evancho because in my opinion he has made bad decisions that has affected Jackie and her career! You go after Mike Evancho because you refuse to hold Jackie accountable for her own career. Even though she became an adult 6 years ago. So Mike has now become a necessary and convenient scapegoat for everything wrong with Jackie's career. I think the parents controlled her career during the height of it and for most of the decline of it. Once Jackie became an adult, yes, she was responsible. But most of the damage and career decline had already occurred by then. The next question is, due to Jackie's talent level, genre, and being a child star, how much of her career decline was due to bad decisions, and how much of it was due to the fact that her cc childhood singing career simply ran its course and they milked it while they could before it died its inevitable death? IMO, there were clear mistakes made by the parents that probably cost Jackie more opportunities back when her career was still intact. Then, when Jackie turned 18, she made plenty of mistakes herself...although, in her partial defense, you are largely a product of who raised you. I contend that while we will never know for sure, I think Jackie's childhood stardom ran its course. I don't see her as some great potential pop star or alt pop star or country music star, etc. She has a very nice voice and can sing in small venues...mabye forever. And she can get the occasional tv interview or national tv gig (like TMS) based on her AGT fame. Thats not a bad thing.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 10, 2024 19:23:17 GMT -5
eulenspiegel made claims about white trash experts. Will this post be deleted?
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 10, 2024 21:52:32 GMT -5
why are you deleting entertainment posts? even Adele and Ed Sheeran in the stands This is not about entertainment, this is about soccer. Adele and Ed Sheeran are in the stands watching soccer, they are not performing. The post is off topic. Also - this is not a forum about white trash, or child abuse or people without talent. That is off topic. From now on, those off topic posts will be deleted. Your moderating decisions are guided by your own feelings about what is acceptable or not. That leaves members to dance around your sensitivities and creates a chilling effect. Posts that don't align with your political beliefs are the ones that piss you off the most. Instead of deleting posts, why don't you create a new thread titled "Posts That Hurt the Moderator's Feelings"? That way, you could move the posts that you don't like to that thread and you won't piss people off here that spend the time, thought and effort into making posts. You could at least move the posts to an appropriate thread instead of deleting them. It feels like Pravda here at times (and these days, much like the US MSM). You should wake up to that fact that it pisses us off when you delete our posts.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 10, 2024 22:09:14 GMT -5
This is not about entertainment, this is about soccer. Adele and Ed Sheeran are in the stands watching soccer, they are not performing. The post is off topic. Also - this is not a forum about white trash, or child abuse or people without talent. That is off topic. From now on, those off topic posts will be deleted. Your moderating decisions are guided by your own feelings about what is acceptable or not. That leaves members to dance around your sensitivities and creates a chilling effect. Posts that don't align with your political beliefs are the ones that piss you off the most. Instead of deleting posts, why don't you create a new thread titled "Posts That Hurt the Moderator's Feelings"? That way, you could move the posts that you don't like to that thread and you won't piss people off here that spend the time, thought and effort into making posts. You could at least move the posts to an appropriate thread instead of deleting them. It feels like Pravda here at times (and these days, much like the US MSM). You should wake up to that fact that it pisses us off when you delete our posts. SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump, like the Russia Collusion Hoax that they've still never shown us the proof that they had, the Steele dossier, and he always insisted that MSM based what they said on FACTS. Typical leftie. But nothing about the laptop, which was Russian Disinformation..........LOL, even though the FBI had the freakin laptop in their hands, or the fact that it's been clear as day that Biden has mush for brains, or the fact that he lied numerous times that there was 9% inflation when he took office, or the border, nah, no mention about any of that. Oh, and nothing about the "cheap fakes" that the right has been accused of lately. It's incredible how little political talk has been here the last 3.5 years.
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Post by donkey on Jul 10, 2024 22:22:35 GMT -5
Your moderating decisions are guided by your own feelings about what is acceptable or not. That leaves members to dance around your sensitivities and creates a chilling effect. Posts that don't align with your political beliefs are the ones that piss you off the most. Instead of deleting posts, why don't you create a new thread titled "Posts That Hurt the Moderator's Feelings"? That way, you could move the posts that you don't like to that thread and you won't piss people off here that spend the time, thought and effort into making posts. You could at least move the posts to an appropriate thread instead of deleting them. It feels like Pravda here at times (and these days, much like the US MSM). You should wake up to that fact that it pisses us off when you delete our posts. SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump, like the Russia Collusion Hoax that they've still never shown us the proof that they had, the Steele dossier, and he always insisted that MSM based what they said on FACTS. Typical leftie. But nothing about the laptop, which was Russian Disinformation..........LOL, even though the FBI had the freakin laptop in their hands, or the fact that it's been clear as day that Biden has mush for brains, or the fact that he lied numerous times that there was 9% inflation when he took office, or the border, nah, no mention about any of that. Oh, and nothing about the "cheap fakes" that the right has been accused of lately. It's incredible how little political talk has been here the last 3.5 years. In Socal's defense, politics is indeed way off topic. The one time he made a reference to Biden, I complained and he deleted his own reference. I may disagree with him politically, but I think he is on point to delete political comments here. The "Off-topic posts" thread is where a number of us have been making political posts.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 10, 2024 22:33:58 GMT -5
SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump, like the Russia Collusion Hoax that they've still never shown us the proof that they had, the Steele dossier, and he always insisted that MSM based what they said on FACTS. Typical leftie. But nothing about the laptop, which was Russian Disinformation..........LOL, even though the FBI had the freakin laptop in their hands, or the fact that it's been clear as day that Biden has mush for brains, or the fact that he lied numerous times that there was 9% inflation when he took office, or the border, nah, no mention about any of that. Oh, and nothing about the "cheap fakes" that the right has been accused of lately. It's incredible how little political talk has been here the last 3.5 years. In Socal's defense, politics is indeed way off topic. The one time he made a reference to Biden, I complained and he deleted his own reference. I may disagree with him politically, but I think he is on point to delete political comments here. The "Off-topic posts" thread is where a number of us have been making political posts. If he doesn't like where the posts are, then he should move them to an appropriate spot rather than deleting them
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 10, 2024 22:38:20 GMT -5
SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump, like the Russia Collusion Hoax that they've still never shown us the proof that they had, the Steele dossier, and he always insisted that MSM based what they said on FACTS. Typical leftie. But nothing about the laptop, which was Russian Disinformation..........LOL, even though the FBI had the freakin laptop in their hands, or the fact that it's been clear as day that Biden has mush for brains, or the fact that he lied numerous times that there was 9% inflation when he took office, or the border, nah, no mention about any of that. Oh, and nothing about the "cheap fakes" that the right has been accused of lately. It's incredible how little political talk has been here the last 3.5 years. In Socal's defense, politics is indeed way off topic. The one time he made a reference to Biden, I complained and he deleted his own reference. I may disagree with him politically, but I think he is on point to delete political comments here. The "Off-topic posts" thread is where a number of us have been making political posts. That's not true though. Go back in time to Trump's term, he had zero problems attacking him and insisting that everything MSM was saying about him was true, because they only report facts. If CNN said something, you can bet your life on it. But now that Biden's in.................. crickets. And the same with eulenspiegel. I've actually found it pretty amusing and it proved to me just how bad Biden's really doing.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 10, 2024 22:39:25 GMT -5
No surprise as Caz loves ones who cuss at their fans. Correct, indeed. For True Jackie Fans, JoJo is their real-life lesbian granddaughter who cusses while Jackie is their fantasy 10 year old granddaughter who doesn't. Only if they can't subtract 2000 from the year on or after April 9. Not very difficult. PS yes, she does cuss, twice; once doing a clip of rap just for the heck of it, once in one of the songs on Solla, sometimes, depending on the venue (substituted otherwise). In this broken world full of imperfect people, everybody cusses sometimes. It has more impact if it's rare rather than every sentence.
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Post by BOGC on Jul 10, 2024 22:42:37 GMT -5
Those pics are pretty tame, and certainly never revealing more than a bathing suit would. Jackie was just working on artistic expression here, and she got grief from some fans...so much so that she responding on Instagram, asking why some of her fans couldn't just support her creative exploration (and Jackie rarely comments on her Instagram). Definitely was encouraged by Christina to take these provocative photos, Jackie would never have done it if she wasn’t greatly influenced by the photos she saw of Sofia. I’m sure there’s a lot more risqué photos from that shoot that Jackie thought were too revealing. I think some of the mildly daring photos are Christina's idea of one way to improve Jackie's confidence and help her fight her anorexia. Not sure if the latter really works or if it just puts more attention on the physical. But it's all too easy for cameras to be cruel; a photographer who knows how to make sure they aren't is a big deal.
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Post by donkey on Jul 10, 2024 22:55:22 GMT -5
In Socal's defense, politics is indeed way off topic. The one time he made a reference to Biden, I complained and he deleted his own reference. I may disagree with him politically, but I think he is on point to delete political comments here. The "Off-topic posts" thread is where a number of us have been making political posts. That's not true though. Go back in time to Trump's term, he had zero problems attacking him and insisting that everything MSM was saying about him was true, because they only report facts. If CNN said something, you can bet your life on it. But now that Biden's in.................. crickets. And the same with eulenspiegel. I've actually found it pretty amusing and it proved to me just how bad Biden's really doing. Mabye back then such was the case, but a lot of forum rules got changed here in the last year or two. It used to be just about anything was allowed here. But now an effort is being made to try and keep people on topic. I personally think its a little too strict at times, but I can appreciate the effort.
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