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Post by Cry More on Jul 11, 2024 1:17:13 GMT -5
I don't know what you people are talking about. This is one of the most loosely moderated forums I've ever been on. The sh!t you people get away with astonishes me, and then you still turn around and complain about it. There are several places on this site where anyone can go off about anything, but this one thread is where you're asked to reel it in once in a while and you throw a hissy fit.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 3:11:01 GMT -5
Ive already answered that and corrected the record. I do not recall you telling us who was pushing Jackie to pretend to be 10 years old. If you have already answered it, can you provide a link? Your question should be to donkey who made that claim that fans didnt want her growing up, which was projection. No surprise as Caz loves ones who cuss at their fans. JoJo is their real-life lesbian granddaughter who cusses That you ship off in a van to a Pray the Gay Away Church Camp. Try again, ( insert your favorite cuss word here) amg already posted that definition a week ago (I suspect he only did because no Jackie material is on that sites spotify playlist) and I already responded. Jackie basically defined the "classical style" in her ABC Nightline Interview which is to raise her soft palette. This post is from reddit: He's singing with a raised palette, something that is also used in classical singing but I wouldn't say this is solely an operatic technique although it does give his voice that slightly more rich, full feel which is probably what others are referring to as sounding 'operatic'. There are tons of great crossover singers each implementing different degrees of their classical training mixed with pop and popular music. Evanescence is a great example of a classically trained singer who creates more mainstream music but there's more out there than you'd realize. -- Operatic singing though is defined as singing unamplified to fill a concert hall, CC artists use mics. So this is simple textbook stuff.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2024 6:53:37 GMT -5
The next question is, due to Jackie's talent level, genre, and being a child star, how much of her career decline was due to bad decisions, and how much of it was due to the fact that her cc childhood singing career simply ran its course and they milked it while they could before it died its inevitable death? That is what I have always believed.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2024 6:58:55 GMT -5
eulenspiegel made claims about white trash experts. Will this post be deleted? I tend to avoid deleting posts from the past because I prefer not to engage in retroactive moderation. But I have stated that such posts are off topic and will delete them in the future.
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Post by colt46 on Jul 11, 2024 7:03:17 GMT -5
Yes I know that’s what you believe Socal Fan ,I still think she can make living singing and not do what Disappointed wants her to do! You can’t tell with a voice as good as hers she cannot still sing at venues! Her mistake is singing at the wrong place’s! I think Florida, Texas etc are good places for her! A lot of retirees in those two states that appreciate her talent!
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Post by colt46 on Jul 11, 2024 7:07:03 GMT -5
I would not allow a poster on this forum that trashes my country! Americans have free speech Eulenspiegel isn’t American and should not get the same rights as Americans do!
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2024 7:36:59 GMT -5
Your moderating decisions are guided by your own feelings about what is acceptable or not. That leaves members to dance around your sensitivities and creates a chilling effect. Posts that don't align with your political beliefs are the ones that piss you off the most. Instead of deleting posts, why don't you create a new thread titled "Posts That Hurt the Moderator's Feelings"? That way, you could move the posts that you don't like to that thread and you won't piss people off here that spend the time, thought and effort into making posts. You could at least move the posts to an appropriate thread instead of deleting them. It feels like Pravda here at times (and these days, much like the US MSM). You should wake up to that fact that it pisses us off when you delete our posts. Your moderating decisions are guided by your own feelings about what is acceptable or not.That, of course, is precisely the job of every moderator. That leaves members to dance around your sensitivities and creates a chilling effect.That is why I usually warn posters and then only delete off-topic posts that are made after my warning. Posts that don't align with your political beliefs are the ones that piss you off the most.You seem not to have noticed that, after I warned about political posts, all political posts have been moved or deleted from this thread. If I have missed any, please report them. But I don't have time to deal with posts that were made before the warning. Instead of deleting posts, why don't you create a new thread titled "Posts That Hurt the Moderator's Feelings"? That way, you could move the posts that you don't like to that thread and you won't piss people off here that spend the time, thought and effort into making posts. You could at least move the posts to an appropriate thread instead of deleting them.The new thread you are asking for already exists. It is the Off-Topic thread. I used to move posts to that thread but the lack of any penalty only encouraged posters to make off-topic posts. Now the penalty is deletion. You should wake up to that fact that it pisses us off when you delete our posts.I have always offered to reconsider the deletion of any post. Just post it again and make your argument to me and the rest of the forum why the post should be reinstated. The interesting thing is that almost nobody has ever taken me up on this. I strongly suspect that the offending poster realized that the post was off-topic and could not make convincing supporting arguments to the contrary. You, in particular, have complained several times about unfair moderation but, as far as I can remember, you have not listed any specific posts where the problem has occurred. It is impossible to respond to general complaints but I am always happy to discuss specific posts.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2024 7:50:34 GMT -5
SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump ... There was a time when political posts were tolerated. But that was a long while ago. Since I warned about political posts, I have deleted them all. If I missed any, please report them to me.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 8:00:06 GMT -5
The show, the treatment of the kids ..the behavior of the teacher, parents were toxic, irresponsible..btw.Maddie Ziegler told in recent interviews…that it was so… There are many sicko experts on US Tv…just money making loonies..for the ratngs Yes alot of people in america felt that way about Dance Moms that it was in a way child abuse and it wasn't that popular btw but yet Rickky has been posting those girls for over a decade. I believe Abby did go to jail for tax reasons. Its ridiculous that Rickky doesn't acknowledge the trauma it caused all those girls with the yelling just because the image they put out there on social media. Hes all positive but completely negative and making up lies about Jackie. I prefer influencers who rather than go on vacations and buy houses. They do do brand deals but they also help others who need it. Im talking about Keith Lee who has 16m tiktok followers, one of the biggest influencers there is. Whether you like him or not: just one positive review of a struggling restaurant or a hidden gem could change that business in a matter of hours even when they are on the verge of closing or not getting any customers. Theres been alot of stories about him but this is much better use of that kind of power and influence.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 8:02:54 GMT -5
The next question is, due to Jackie's talent level, genre, and being a child star, how much of her career decline was due to bad decisions, and how much of it was due to the fact that her cc childhood singing career simply ran its course and they milked it while they could before it died its inevitable death? That is what I have always believed. Drama Queen Schtick aside. Its about the voice, it always has been about the voice, and there always be demand for the voice and venues willing to have her. She just needs to hire a better agent to get her gigs as well as write more great original songs. Its not some soap opera, its simple.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 8:12:36 GMT -5
You, in particular, have complained several times about unfair moderation but, as far as I can remember, you have not listed any specific posts where the problem has occurred. It is impossible to respond to general complaints but I am always happy to discuss specific posts. If it was up to me: id require him to cite specific posts, or register and report the posts or I would disregard any future complaints made by him.
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Post by ZERO THE CAT on Jul 11, 2024 8:51:13 GMT -5
In Socal's defense, politics is indeed way off topic. The one time he made a reference to Biden, I complained and he deleted his own reference. I may disagree with him politically, but I think he is on point to delete political comments here. The "Off-topic posts" thread is where a number of us have been making political posts. If he doesn't like where the posts are, then he should move them to an appropriate spot rather than deleting them Mabye he doesn't want to spend his time moving posts. I would imagine deleting them is easier.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 11, 2024 8:53:19 GMT -5
SoCal had no problems with political posts when they were against Trump ... There was a time when political posts were tolerated. But that was a long while ago. Since I warned about political posts, I have deleted them all. If I missed any, please report them to me. Does this also apply to the Political thread? This is your forum so naturally you make the rules and can change them at any time, but if that's the case, I fully understand why you'd no longer tolerate political discussions. In your shoes, I wouldn't either.
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2024 9:04:34 GMT -5
There was a time when political posts were tolerated. But that was a long while ago. Since I warned about political posts, I have deleted them all. If I missed any, please report them to me. Does this also apply to the Political thread? This is your forum so naturally you make the rules and can change them at any time, but if that's the case, I fully understand why you'd no longer tolerate political discussions. In your shoes, I wouldn't either.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 11, 2024 9:14:54 GMT -5
There was a time when political posts were tolerated. But that was a long while ago. Since I warned about political posts, I have deleted them all. If I missed any, please report them to me. Does this also apply to the Political thread? This is your forum so naturally you make the rules and can change them at any time, but if that's the case, I fully understand why you'd no longer tolerate political discussions. In your shoes, I wouldn't either. No, all rules I have stated apply only to this thread, the General Discussion thread. This is the only part of the forum that I actively moderate. The rest of the forum is effectively unmoderated or, more accurately, moderated only when posters report problems to me. I encourage everyone to report any inappropriate posts to me and I will deal with them. You seem not to realize that there are plenty of political posts in the forum. Political posts are fine in the Political threads and the off-topic thread. In fact I occasionally participate in those threads.
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