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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 11, 2024 9:16:44 GMT -5
Does this also apply to the Political thread? This is your forum so naturally you make the rules and can change them at any time, but if that's the case, I fully understand why you'd no longer tolerate political discussions. In your shoes, I wouldn't either. He wasn't scolding, just explaining the rules.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jul 11, 2024 9:18:35 GMT -5
Does this also apply to the Political thread? This is your forum so naturally you make the rules and can change them at any time, but if that's the case, I fully understand why you'd no longer tolerate political discussions. In your shoes, I wouldn't either. No, all rules I have stated apply only to this thread, the General Discussion thread. This is the only part of the forum that I actively moderate. The rest of the forum is effectively unmoderated or, more accurately, moderated only when posters report problems to me. I encourage everyone to report any inappropriate posts to me and I will deal with them. Political posts are fine in the Political threads and the off-topic thread. In fact I occasionally participate in those threads. Great! Good to know. But occasionally a comment about politics starts here. It would be nice if that comment gets moved to the Political thread so that people can then reply at the correct place.
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 11, 2024 9:55:39 GMT -5
I'm vacationing and just lurking at the moment but let me interject my opinion on the moderation debate: Socal Fan owns this forum and can do with it whatever the hell he wants to so long as he does not violate ProBoards' terms of service. If someone does not like that, they are free to start their own forum. I may not agree with all of his decisions, but he has every right to make them.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 10:07:59 GMT -5
@socal fan you also commented about posts that: "contains a video or graphic that takes up space on the page and forces readers to waste time to scroll past." as being an issue in the past and they have been continuously made. If you want these reported, I shall.
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2024 10:10:14 GMT -5
The show, the treatment of the kids ..the behavior of the teacher, parents were toxic, irresponsible..btw.Maddie Ziegler told in recent interviews…that it was so… There are many sicko experts on US Tv…just money making loonies..for the ratngs Yes alot of people in america felt that way about Dance Moms that it was in a way child abuse and it wasn't that popular btw but yet Rickky has been posting those girls for over a decade. I believe Abby did go to jail for tax reasons. Its ridiculous that Rickky doesn't acknowledge the trauma it caused all those girls with the yelling just because the image they put out there on social media. Hes all positive but completely negative and making up lies about Jackie. I prefer influencers who rather than go on vacations and buy houses. They do do brand deals but they also help others who need it. Im talking about Keith Lee who has 16m tiktok followers, one of the biggest influencers there is. Whether you like him or not: just one positive review of a struggling restaurant or a hidden gem could change that business in a matter of hours even when they are on the verge of closing or not getting any customers. Theres been alot of stories about him but this is much better use of that kind of power and influence. You keep bringing up Dance Moms and as I said it was just a stepping stone. But it was successful because it was shown in 115 countries and was on for 8 season.
It has been mentioned that Jackie needs her Wrecking Ball moment to break away from the little girl with the big voice.
There is nothing Jackie could have done or she will ever be able to do to get that type of views Miley Cyrus got
Wrecking Ball
1,202,017,061 views Sep 9, 2013
It took someone like Maddie Ziegler dancing to dethrone her. Chandelier 2,718,415,602 views May 6, 2014
Before you say it was just Sia's singing, Sia put out a music video for Chandelier a month before releasing the one with Maddie and it only has around 35 million Views. The videos Sia made with Maddie totals over 6 billion views. Way out doing anything Maddie did for Dance Moms. Sims can't get it in his head that this is 2024 and lives in some fantasy land back in 2011 when Jackie was popular as a little girl singer. Jackie may not have grown up since then as she pretended to be 10 years old for another 10 years till she was in her 20's (She said it Herself) but all the others have grown up. Nobody says Olivia Rodrigo is where she is because she was a star of Bizaardvark when she was young. Nobody says Jenna Ortega is where she is because she was one of the star of "Stuck in the Middle" when she was 9 years old.
Tate McRae started out as a young competition dancer which a lot of her fans hardly know about.
Every celebrity had their stepping stone moment to launch them but none keep going back to that day except Jackie and what is really strange about that is Jackie didn't even win AGT she never won on any contest she was in.
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2024 10:19:21 GMT -5
I prefer influencers who rather than go on vacations and buy houses. They do do brand deals but they also help others who need it. Im talking about Keith Lee who has 16m tiktok followers, one of the biggest influencers there is. You are joking I hope, Keith Lee one of the biggest influencer there is 16m tiktok followers. Kenzie doesn't consider herself an influencer but she does have 23.6m tiktok followers. Kenzie and Maddie do have friends that are real influencers Charlie D Amelio 155.4m Addison Rae 88.8m I would hardly consider Keith Lee an actual influencer much less one of the biggest.
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 11, 2024 10:25:30 GMT -5
That is what I have always believed. Drama Queen Schtick aside. Its about the voice, it always has been about the voice, and there always be demand for the voice and venues willing to have her. She just needs to hire a better agent to get her gigs as well as write more great original songs. Its not some soap opera, its simple. What voice? When she was 10, she could mimic opera songs well so she had an unusual voice for that age, which is why she won the lotto, in addition the perfect storm of several once in a lifetime factors. Now she sounds like a drunk karaoke singer. No agent could get her gigs now, any gigs she has had in the last couple years have been charitable sympathy bones due to her whining about her various problems, or events where OTTs got her the show. The only exception was the Winery Tour where some sucker made a blunder hiring her. And she can't write even mediocre songs, let alone "more great original songs". She's never written a "great original song" in her life and never will. You can bet the farm on that.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 10:31:28 GMT -5
it was just a stepping stone. That traumatized them all so much (and far more than anything Jackie experienced) that they did not want to talk about it or even join their former cast mates. I fathom that the vacations are there to avoid dealing with the emotions they have over the childhood trauma. Sims can't get it in his head that this is 2024 and lives in some fantasy land back in 2011 when Jackie was popular as a little girl singer. Trolls tend to project onto Jackie fans as their only arguments are ad hominem and its especially hypocritical as you spam vids from over a decade ago. Amazon was a discussion about Jackie's products. Jackie has never appeared on Dance Mom's or followed or met anyone from Dance Mom's. Shes had people dance to her music though as recently as Isabeau Levito. Btw off topic posts deletions should apply to Rickky who is constantly off topic.
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2024 10:42:06 GMT -5
Drama Queen Schtick aside. Its about the voice, it always has been about the voice, and there always be demand for the voice and venues willing to have her. She just needs to hire a better agent to get her gigs as well as write more great original songs. Its not some soap opera, its simple. What voice? When she was 10, she could mimic opera songs well so she had an unusual voice for that age, which is why she won the lotto, in addition the perfect storm of several once in a lifetime factors. Now she sounds like a drunk karaoke singer. No agent could get her gigs now, any gigs she has had in the last couple years have been charitable sympathy bones due to her whining about her various problems, or events where OTTs got her the show. The only exception was the Winery Tour where some sucker made a blunder hiring her. And she can't write even mediocre songs, let alone "more great original songs". She's never written a "great original song" in her life and never will. You can bet the farm on that. I don't think Jackie's original songs are mediocre...I think they are pretty good, surprisingly so. Great songs, well, no, but how many songs that have found commercial success haven't been "great" songs? A LOT!!!! Jackie's problem today is that she is mostly an unknown again, and her voice/persona/original songs don't stand out in the crowd. No way to get traction when that is the case. She has a very nice voice (and she's quite adorable/attractive and classy/conservative on stage), but that really doesn't get you anywhere in an industry full of very nice voices.
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Post by msims on Jul 11, 2024 10:59:10 GMT -5
Long after AGT: Jackie as Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history and thats wild as I follow reddit. Talent will always Vincero and its because of the work shes done over almost 14 years. Be smart, don't be a troll.
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Post by donkey on Jul 11, 2024 11:40:23 GMT -5
Long after AGT: Jackie as Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history and thats wild as I follow reddit. Talent will always Vincero and its because of the work shes done over almost 14 years. Be smart, don't be a troll. Yeah, people liked our bedazzled Kitty. Too bad they don't like our Jackie just as much. lol
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2024 12:26:29 GMT -5
Long after AGT: Jackie as Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history and thats wild as I follow reddit. Talent will always Vincero and its because of the work shes done over almost 14 years. Be smart, don't be a troll. LOL what a bunch of BS if she was liked so much she would have made it to the finals at least.
Quote: " Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history"
Just go to The Masked Singer's youtube site and see what is the most popular shows, Jackie is way, way down on their list. Anybody can make a reddit post an write anything they want. Just click on sort by "Popular"
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 11, 2024 12:42:29 GMT -5
Long after AGT: Jackie as Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history and thats wild as I follow reddit What's wild is this is likely how that went: Reddit Topic: Isn't Kitty The Greatest? created by Simsy Simsy: I think Jackie Evancho as Kitty was the best contestant ever on TMS. What does everyone think? Simsy Fake Account #1: Oh yes, for sure she was awesome! Simsy Fake Account #2: Absolutely! There was no one better! Simsy Fake Account #3: Definitely the best ever on that show! Simsy Fake Account #4: No doubt about it. Jackie is the best ever! Simsy Fake Account #5: I bow down to Kitty, the greatest ever! Simsy: WOW! So it's official! Kitty/Jackie are the greatest!
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2024 13:14:44 GMT -5
Long after AGT: Jackie as Kitty on TMS is still one of the most popular contestants in the US shows history and thats wild as I follow reddit. Talent will always Vincero and its because of the work shes done over almost 14 years. Be smart, don't be a troll. You want to know just how popular Jackie was, both Jackie and Kenzie Ziegler did singing commercials for Justice Clothing . Jackie was in her prime when she did the commercials for Justice Clothing called "Go Time"
Jackie Evancho "Go Time"
255,191 views Jul 16, 2014
23,194,391 views Jul 17, 2017
Kenzie Ziegler "Teamwork"
Which one do you think Justice gave the clothing line to.
Justice Clothing has 823 video and Kenzie has the number 1 and number 3 most popular
Kenzie's Teamwork has 23 million views and the number 2 has 7.6 million views.
Seems the commercial market is not buying any of the BS Jackie's Otts are saying. They look at actual numbers.
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2024 13:56:22 GMT -5
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