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Post by Salzburg on Apr 14, 2022 20:01:32 GMT -5
Are you speaking as a "real musician", eulenspiegel? Do you have musical training or even any musical talent?
I suspect the answers are no. Eulenspiegel expresses "opinions" out of jealousy - jealousy for Karolina's demonstrated musical training and talents, and I suspect also jealousy for Karolina's beauty and warm personality, traits which eulenspiegel is completely lacking.
Here is my opinion. Eulenspiegel completely lacks all of Karolina's admirable qualities. To say that eulenspiegel is a swine would be an insult to all swine. not only the living swine, but to all swine who have ever breathed a breath, not only the cute cuddly little pink piglets but also the bulkiest yellow-tusked hairy smelly swine as well.
This is only my opinion of course, but no less valid than any opinion expressed by eulenspiegel, whose opinions should always be taken as suspect.
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Post by Salzburg on Apr 14, 2022 20:06:48 GMT -5
Furthermore, eulenspiegel, you are devoid of any honesty or integrity. If Emily Bear were informed of the unfair and dishonest criticisms you have posted about other performers, she would undoubtedly disavow you and block you from following her.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 14, 2022 20:36:11 GMT -5
There is an article in the Pasadena Weekly about AGT as the live shows for the program are held at the Pasadena Civic Center. There are some interesting comments from long time executive producers Sam Donnelly and Jason Raff about the most memorable performances during the shows long running success:
“America’s Got Talent” executive producers Sam Donnelly and Jason Raff find it difficult to choose highlights during their tenure with the NBC reality show.
But one name keeps coming up: Grace VanderWaal.
“I’ve been doing this for 17 years,” Raff said. “The first time we saw Grace VanderWaal, she left the audition room and that was a goosebump moment.”
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“Grace walked into an audition room, and we had never heard of her before,” she said. “She did a song, ‘Ex’s & Oh’s’ (by Elle King). She has this raspy quality for a very little girl.
“Then she had her own song, ‘I Don’t Know My Name.’ I thought, ‘Oh, my God. This is a rare talent.’ When she came on stage, we were invested in whether she does well. We feel a connection with people.”
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Post by Disappointed on Apr 14, 2022 21:01:11 GMT -5
Here is some proof of how smart eulenspiegel is.
On the first video, the backing music stops at about 1:45 into the video and you can see how eulenspiegel is right, she isn't really playing. Oh wait...wait...
And in this video, Karolina has apparently paid off the cop to help make the fake soundtrack at the studio, I guess he went there and put on his siren, then later had a fake conversation with her dad that she would have to move to a designated location. And when her dad asks if she can finish the song, the cop agrees, even though he can see that she isn't really playing. LOL!
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Post by richard on Apr 14, 2022 23:16:37 GMT -5
RE: Karolina Protsenko first she is a youtuber which is extremely hard to do to keep coming up with new videos. Karolina has to learn new songs and probably takes awhile to edit them. Plus you have to have that personality that makes you enjoyable to watch. Karolina has also made a lot of cute videos with Margarita Barvina that are fairly popular. How Karolina reached 5 million youtube subscribers.
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Post by Grace Fan on Apr 15, 2022 3:53:22 GMT -5
instagr.am/p/CcUOUhTM7Z1 Grace shared the progression of a song she wrote, from the beginning stages of first writing it, to the first draft of recording it with production. She has really come a long way with the self-produced work that she has been doing from home. Really catchy chorus. It is interesting seeing the progression from a simple acoustic performance in the first slide to the initial demo of the second slide in less than 24 hours. When you get a young artist with some creativity, it is important to have them mentored by someone who knows their way around a studio. Grace spent a year or so working very closely with Ido Zmishlany (who referred to Grace as his "magical unicorn") and that was "hands on" experience that cannot really be matched. If a young artist does not have formal training in music theory and/or studio production, such mentoring is important to reach their full potential as a recording artist. If someone is not really into creating rather than just performing, it is not so important. Here's the full 1st draft of Grace's new song. She uploaded it to her "secret" SoundCloud account, and someone reuploaded it to YouTube. It's super catchy and really shows Grace's continued improvement on her production skills. |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 15, 2022 10:59:12 GMT -5
Complete Today Show
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 15, 2022 11:10:49 GMT -5
It is interesting seeing the progression from a simple acoustic performance in the first slide to the initial demo of the second slide in less than 24 hours. When you get a young artist with some creativity, it is important to have them mentored by someone who knows their way around a studio. Grace spent a year or so working very closely with Ido Zmishlany (who referred to Grace as his "magical unicorn") and that was "hands on" experience that cannot really be matched. If a young artist does not have formal training in music theory and/or studio production, such mentoring is important to reach their full potential as a recording artist. If someone is not really into creating rather than just performing, it is not so important. Here's the full 1st draft of Grace's new song. She uploaded it to her "secret" SoundCloud account, and someone reuploaded it to YouTube. It's super catchy and really shows Grace's continued improvement on her production skills. Looks like you forgot the link. The song is titled "Sh!tty Actress." Here is the link:
It is quite amazing she wrote, arranged, recorded, and mixed a demo this good in a span of less than 24 hours. If a song with a hook like this one is what she considers a "throwaway track," it bodes well for her future output.
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Post by Grace Fan on Apr 15, 2022 11:18:10 GMT -5
Here's the full 1st draft of Grace's new song. She uploaded it to her "secret" SoundCloud account, and someone reuploaded it to YouTube. It's super catchy and really shows Grace's continued improvement on her production skills. Looks like you forgot the link. The song is titled "Sh!tty Actress." Here is the link: youtube.com/watch?v=jjawEt3FvsU It is quite amazing she wrote, arranged, recorded, and mixed a demo this good in a span of less than 24 hours. If a song with a hook like this one is what she considers a "throwaway track," it bodes well for her future output.
That's what I get for posting so early in the morning. You're right though. If Grace actually considers this song to just be a throwaway, I can't imagine what kind of songs she will consider to be worthy of releasing. |
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Post by richard on Apr 15, 2022 17:52:23 GMT -5
Complete Today Show m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7badOM9BSw&feature=youtu.be Interesting that they didn't receive the award from Emily's piano skills but from the two of them writing and singing on TikTok and getting others that are probably their peers that could probably care less about how talented Emily is as a pianist. Much like Tate McRae that now has a fan base that many doesn't even know how talented of a dancer she is.
But it once again proves how you can make it just by social media even with out a label. Something we can now pretty much say is a lesson Jackie will never learn, even though it was her social media site that got her on AGT to begin with.
What Emily and Barlow doesn't need is a fan that downs their peers that are doing the exact same thing they are doing career wise. Emily about tripled her fan base since they started working together.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 15, 2022 19:28:02 GMT -5
Complete Today Show m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7badOM9BSw&feature=youtu.be Interesting that they didn't receive the award from Emily's piano skills but from the two of them writing and singing on TikTok and getting others that are probably their peers that could probably care less about how talented Emily is as a pianist. Much like Tate McRae that now has a fan base that many doesn't even know how talented of a dancer she is.
But it once again proves how you can make it just by social media even with out a label. Something we can now pretty much say is a lesson Jackie will never learn, even though it was her social media site that got her on AGT to begin with.
What Emily and Barlow doesn't need is a fan that downs their peers that are doing the exact same thing they are doing career wise. Emily about tripled her fan base since they started working together.
Simply no...her piano skills are still a big factor and they take music serious in contrast to these jumping violinists. Btw. when was the last time someone tool MZ really serious ..apart from getting photo shoots. Yes, she is rich ...but she is not taken serious for years now...perhaps there will be a change...but in the moment she is just the superficial influencer barby - yes, Spielberg used her for promo...but in the end ...if there is the next dancing barbie... |
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Post by msims on Apr 15, 2022 20:47:31 GMT -5
So I suppose I'm also 1 Guest since in your world I am also Grace Fan. Aren't you glad that your idol doesn't have any facial features that she could be ridiculed for? Oh........wait....... Too bad you weren't able to comprehend what those figures really meant. Just like all of your other comments, nothing of what you said is accurate. You're the one trolling, spewing hate towards Grace with immature insults. Meanwhile, I'm using this particular thread on this forum for its intended purpose, adding to the discussion of young female artists. You should try letting Jackie's talents stand on their own, as I know they can once she's ready to fully get back out there, instead of resorting to acting like a child. Do you have so little faith in your idol that your frustrations are causing you to behave in this manner? I would never argue about nonsense that isnt relevant. This is spam and typically in a forum an admin or mod deletes it. Making posts about Grace or any other artist that are not JE isn't even close to being spam. Guess you never bothered to read the guidelines put into place for this particular discussion board by the admin. Allow me to share them with you: This forum will be mostly un-moderated. All posts of every kind are welcome, as they were on Amazon, other than illegal posts and posts that violate the policies of Proboards (our host). Posts are welcome from fans, antifans, haters, lovers, trolls, Crusaders, cesspool waders, window lickers, court jesters, angels and Klingons. Posts are welcome on all subjects of interest, relevant or otherwise.Just because you don't like something, it doesn't make it spam. Please continue with your immature comments all you like though. As you can see by the stated rules, even people like you are welcome here 🤗 Emanne is now managed by Tara Joseph at JAM: In the early 2000’s, Tara moved into music management where she managed Nicole and Natalie Appleton of All Saints. From there, she managed a number of recording artists, before meeting classical superstar, mezzo soprano, Katherine Jenkins, whom she represented for eight years. Taking Katherine to global stardom, she helped transform her into a household name and become a British icon.www.jamartistsgroup.com/elementor-1954"Career boost" thats a point soc made back in Feb and I was right you are a guy who is easily swayed by anything negative. So the argument is that she didnt release music to maximize the benefit of TMS. But she couldnt tour to market the music.Orrr....mabye we both think the same thing about that because it's clearly true? LoL...you failed to consider that huh? Again, whether she could tour or not is irrelevant. Whether there was anything more she could have done to made good use of the exposure she got on The Masked singer is irrelevant. That's not the point I'm making. The point made was that nothing came of it. Since her face reveal and was so brief and a good bit of time has now passed, very likely nothing will come of it. I'm not assigning blame, just stating facts...although like I said, disappearing without a trace for 9 plus months certainly doesn't help any entertainer. As long as she can book dates shes fine. As long as she can book a show like TMS, shes fine. I have long said that she still has years of these "smallish" concerts she can do to make a decent living. Her older fan base is gradually dying off, but there are still enough of them to keep her bills payed for some years to come. Of course, Jackie desires so much more than that. But it doesn't look good as far as that goes. I explained to you originally though that she hated social media. Jackie doesn't hate social media, she enjoys a lot of aspects of it. She may not enjoy the work of having to maintain it all, but she sure enjoyed her "Zero the Cat" Instagram account, and her "live coverage of a bird trapped in her house" coverage on Facebook, as well as her "getting to know me better" videos series. She enjoyed the fun stuff and used it as a way to keep connected with her fans. I'm sure she didn't much enjoy the mundane part of having to keep up with the work side of it...constantly posting dates, appearances, etc....that's pretty boring. Original songs arent that important in classical crossover, its familiar songs. As far as marketing, she sings the phonebook, she does interviews, tv, and then markets the material in concert.
Oh and one more thing, you referred to Lisa the other day what Lisa wrote on FB is vague when she talks about mismanagement. But Lisa is the Queen of Vague, shes had to be interpreted since back in 2010.Jackie was already a success in classical crossover. She hasn't sung any new classical crossover stuff in years. She'll sing the old favorites that she sang in her early years at her concerts, but she doesn't sing new classical crossover stuff...so you are barking up the wrong tree there Fido. She wants to have new success in new genres..that's her interest these days, and really do that successfully, you have to really stand out in a crowd and have some quality, original songs. Marketing...yes...she has done a lot of interviews and the like. I agree with you there. My only point about Lisa and that Facebook post was that even she acknowledges the obvious....that Jackie's fan base has been dying off over the years and that she has been unable to gain new audiences to take their place, something that you refuse, or are for some odd reason unable to acknowledge. Her opinion about it being the labels fault, well, I'm not sure about all of that. Labels want to make money...they are a business. I get that. Should they invest more and take a risk that developing young talent more will pay off in the future? I don't know the answer to that. But we sure can see where Lisa falls on that. lol Couldnt you have attempted to convince your other personalities not to bold part of it? Its a huge giveaway. Soc made a mistake in deleting a donkey post and I spotted it. Thats something only admins can do. Trolls are all about having the kind of fun only a sociopath would have, lying about her, her career, her fans, and family. Trolls have no sense of humor, they don't like facts or evidence, they prefer hearsay. Your theory is that im an idiot because I didnt follow a brat's instagram and determine how much your brat made on streaming. The Amazon Forum was made for buyers and potential buyers of Jackie's music and other amazon products to discuss her music. Trolls came in to disrupt that because they were insecure with her. Btw 3 Million Units+. Why dont you do the math on that? |
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Post by nipper on Apr 15, 2022 21:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Apr 15, 2022 21:57:36 GMT -5
Doesn't make sense..."the only time you'll be able to see me live this year"...she's done live concerts 4 times this year already, and is about to release a new album. Sounds fake. Something like this might have made sense during the height of the covid lockdowns, but not now. Plus, that date is only about a month away...it would need to be advertised well in advance at least on her social media...Instagram/FB/etc, which it isn't. Nothing about it makes sense. Fake news. |
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 15, 2022 22:03:58 GMT -5
Only in Sims' alternate universe is a site admin deleting a post a sign of anything other than being a site admin. 😊 As usual, Sims reads vast conspiracies into minor details. In fact, the donkey post wasn't deleted - it was moved to the "off topic" folder (as was my response) - something Socal Fan told everyone he planned on doing. But if you want to imagine Socal Fan is busy coding bot routines complete with varied writing styles and vocabulary patterns, I am sure he will be happy you think him so talented. By the way, using bold for highlighting quotes is fairly common internet practice, but given how far out of touch you are with social media, streaming and other online practices, it's not a shock you think it is evidence of sinister intent. You're like someone in quicksand ... the more you struggle, the worse it gets.
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