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Post by gordy on Nov 16, 2017 18:26:23 GMT -5
Are you still in that class ? Is it my imagination, or was Biden a nearly nonstop gaffe? And as for standards of conduct, wasn't it a Bernie supporter that shot up a Republican baseball practice? Should those be regarded as representative too? Just maybe, Trump is more brash and far less polished than anyone in recent memory, but that's no reason to suppose he doesn't know what he's doing, nor that those who voted for him were clueless or malicious. Oh, and GHWB: he's not the worst, but I haven't forgiven him yet for caving on "no new taxes". So all sorts of Presidents have said things they didn't think through well enough...to stick to, anyway. Not even counting Bill "depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." IMO Trump is crash, unpolished and it really is doubtful that he knows what he is doing. It is hard to believe he knows what he is doing when he spends a fair amount of time poking the eye of a chubby little rutabaga, getting poked back by the same little fat rutabaga and then saying he just wants to be friends.
Has difficulty with the truth and with not insulting political leaders then claiming to be rock solid allies. Trump flip/flops all over the place. Either he is completely untrustworthy or he really doesn't know what he's doing. The bottom line is that he is not liked by any living former President and that ought to be of some concern to a great many citizens
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Post by agog on Nov 16, 2017 23:10:15 GMT -5
There's not a living former president that I like.
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Post by jrchico on Nov 17, 2017 0:32:10 GMT -5
There's not a living former president that I like. Me either. I would still vote for Donald if he was running against any of them. |
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Post by gordy on Nov 17, 2017 2:51:19 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that.
The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant.
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Post by jrchico on Nov 17, 2017 4:32:58 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that. The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant. Well, if you could prove any of that he would be out of office but that is mostly just fake news generated by the despicable democrats that hate to admit that they were backing a big business whore. |
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Post by johnnyb on Nov 17, 2017 8:04:18 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that. The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant. What former Presidents are you talking about Gordo? Are Nixon, Clinton, Bush, JFK true politicians with class? I guess getting BJ's under your desk is classy, JFK screwing everything in a skirt is classy, yep those former presidents were some real role models. |
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 17, 2017 11:14:13 GMT -5
Is it my imagination, or was Biden a nearly nonstop gaffe? And as for standards of conduct, wasn't it a Bernie supporter that shot up a Republican baseball practice? Should those be regarded as representative too? Just maybe, Trump is more brash and far less polished than anyone in recent memory, but that's no reason to suppose he doesn't know what he's doing, nor that those who voted for him were clueless or malicious. Oh, and GHWB: he's not the worst, but I haven't forgiven him yet for caving on "no new taxes". So all sorts of Presidents have said things they didn't think through well enough...to stick to, anyway. Not even counting Bill "depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." IMO Trump is crash, unpolished and it really is doubtful that he knows what he is doing. It is hard to believe he knows what he is doing when he spends a fair amount of time poking the eye of a chubby little rutabaga, getting poked back by the same little fat rutabaga and then saying he just wants to be friends.
Has difficulty with the truth and with not insulting political leaders then claiming to be rock solid allies. Trump flip/flops all over the place. Either he is completely untrustworthy or he really doesn't know what he's doing. The bottom line is that he is not liked by any living former President and that ought to be of some concern to a great many citizens
He got elected because he said the people that have been in power are weak for the Country , of course they hate him . Ps your opinions are fake news as usual . he means to shock the Country up and Make It Great Again . |
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 17, 2017 11:16:33 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that. The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant. Class  , haha , really , ho ho ho , true politicians are ranked behind used care salesman by the people . |
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Post by jrchico on Nov 17, 2017 14:49:11 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that. The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant. Class , haha , really , ho ho ho , true politicians are ranked behind used care salesman by the people . That's because a lot of them have law degrees or so i have been led to believe. |
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Post by jrchico on Nov 17, 2017 18:40:06 GMT -5
I thought some here might like this article. For sure some won't though.  This is a great article!! A description of politics in the US since the mid sixties. Evan Douglas Sayet is a comedian and conservative speaker. He is the nation's leading conservative speaker, an in-demand Master of Ceremony for Republican events. Sayet is the author of The Kinder Garden Of Eden: How The Modern Liberal Thinks And Why He's Convinced That Ignorance Is Bliss. He Fights…. by Evan Sayet July 13, 2017 My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #Never Trumpers) constantly ask me if I'm not bothered by Donald Trump's lack of decorum. They ask if I don't think his tweets are "beneath the dignity of the office." Here's my answer: We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized "collegiality" as John McCain? We tried propriety has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob. I don't find anything "dignified," "collegial" or"proper" about Barack Obama's lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don't see anything "dignified" in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don't see anything "statesman-like" in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was "articulate" and "polished" but in no way was he in the least bit "dignified," "collegial" or "proper." The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they've fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one the violent take-over of the universities till today.. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America 's first wartime president in the Culture War. During wartime, things like "dignity" and "collegiality" simply aren't the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, "I cannot spare this man. He fights.." General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would be five decades into their thousand-year Reich. Trump is fighting. And what's particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel's, he's shouting, "You magnificent bastard, I read your book!” That is just the icing on the cake, but it's wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he's defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals a book so essential to the Liberals' war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton's senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer. Trump's tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after "the fake media" and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal. Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as "the most powerful weapon of all." ... Most importantly, Trump's tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either "go high" (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama's close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright's church. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration's weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration's cover-up. So, to my friends on the Left and the #Never Trumpers as well do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be "collegial" and "dignified" and "proper"? Of course I do. These aren't those times. This is war. And it's a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don't care. I can't spare this man. He fights for America! |
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 18, 2017 12:56:25 GMT -5
THIS COUNTRY IS AT A CROSS ROAD TO WHERE IT IS GOING , TURN LEFT OR RIGHT , ONLY A SHOCK JOCK CAN AWAKEN THE PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO , HELL OR NOT . 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 9:36:36 GMT -5
Let's see what the orange orangutan tweets about this! "16 Women and Donald Trump"  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 9:42:32 GMT -5
This stuff just can't be made up! "Morning Digest: Arizona GOP Rep. Trent Franks resigns after asking staffers to bear his children" www.dailykos.com/stories/1723204 |
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 11, 2017 15:29:20 GMT -5
Well both of you should feel pleased that you are a minority. Obviously a majority voted for the former, now living, Presidents and the world is quite happy about that. The former Presidents were true politicians with some class. What is being supported by a minority is a crass bully and as of today, a sexual predator and deviant. What former Presidents are you talking about Gordo? Are Nixon, Clinton, Bush, JFK true politicians with class? I guess getting BJ's under your desk is classy, JFK screwing everything in a skirt is classy, yep those former presidents were some real role models. and Ted Kennedy leaving a girl to die , nice |
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 11, 2017 15:32:09 GMT -5
Is it my imagination, or was Biden a nearly nonstop gaffe? And as for standards of conduct, wasn't it a Bernie supporter that shot up a Republican baseball practice? Should those be regarded as representative too? Just maybe, Trump is more brash and far less polished than anyone in recent memory, but that's no reason to suppose he doesn't know what he's doing, nor that those who voted for him were clueless or malicious. Oh, and GHWB: he's not the worst, but I haven't forgiven him yet for caving on "no new taxes". So all sorts of Presidents have said things they didn't think through well enough...to stick to, anyway. Not even counting Bill "depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." IMO Trump is crash, unpolished and it really is doubtful that he knows what he is doing. It is hard to believe he knows what he is doing when he spends a fair amount of time poking the eye of a chubby little rutabaga, getting poked back by the same little fat rutabaga and then saying he just wants to be friends.
Has difficulty with the truth and with not insulting political leaders then claiming to be rock solid allies. Trump flip/flops all over the place. Either he is completely untrustworthy or he really doesn't know what he's doing. The bottom line is that he is not liked by any living former President and that ought to be of some concern to a great many citizens
duh , he got elected because he is NOT like the dogs in DC , change is the only hope for America , it is swim with Trump or sink . book it |
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, haha , really , ho ho ho , true politicians are ranked behind used care salesman by the people .
