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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 24, 2018 21:53:52 GMT -5
... to accept the world as it is, if she cannot change it. She may be able to change the world. The legality of many things in the world have changed over the years including slavery, segregation, miscegenation, homosexuality and gay marriage. All due to people who refused to accept the world as it is. |
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Post by richard on Mar 24, 2018 21:59:09 GMT -5
... to accept the world as it is, if she cannot change it. She may be able to change the world. The legality of many things in the world have changed over the years including slavery, segregation, miscegenation, homosexuality and gay marriage. All due to people who refused to accept the world as it is. I like Grace Vanderwaal and Millie Bobby Brown but this is a case where they really need to just STFU. especially Millie because she is to big of an influence on kids to be talking about things she doesn't know about. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 24, 2018 22:17:44 GMT -5
She may be able to change the world. The legality of many things in the world have changed over the years including slavery, segregation, miscegenation, homosexuality and gay marriage. All due to people who refused to accept the world as it is. I like Grace Vanderwaal and Millie Bobby Brown but this is a case where they really need to just STFU. I don't think this issue will hurt Grace and Millie at all. Their target demographic supports their positions. There will always be some fans who disagree but I don't think they will suffer any net harm. Jackie's fan demographic is very different and much more conservative but I believe that even in her case she suffered no net harm when she associated herself with Trump and LGBT. I believe her continuing decline in popularity is due to reduced interest in CC and her reduced child prodigy appeal. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 8:26:09 GMT -5
I like Grace Vanderwaal and Millie Bobby Brown but this is a case where they really need to just STFU. I don't think this issue will hurt Grace and Millie at all. Their target demographic supports their positions. There will always be some fans who disagree but I don't think they will suffer any net harm. Jackie's fan demographic is very different and much more conservative but I believe that even in her case she suffered no net harm when she associated herself with Trump and LGBT. I believe her continuing decline in popularity is due to reduced interest in CC and her reduced child prodigy appeal. Really? The other possibility is that she hit the trifecta with that. She had become an instant heroine for the conservatives by accepting the gig, and an instant lightning rod for the liberals for having the audacity to 'go to his aid'. Next, LGBTQ thing, where she [fairly respectfully, but publicly] stated her case against Trump's position, causing the conservatives to recoil AND all anti-LGBTQ fans [mostly conservatives?] turned on her without her picking up many liberals in return. Finally, the faith-based public discovers she likes LBGTQ, probably without understanding quite ALL of it, and THEY turn on her. Interest in her art has dropped off the edge of the Earth [at least for now]. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 9:57:32 GMT -5
Friday Bridge, do you remember reading in history about a time when the court jesters appeared to be loyal to the king and were apparently free from politics? I guess those days are gone. For the moment.  |
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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 25, 2018 9:58:37 GMT -5
I don't think this issue will hurt Grace and Millie at all. Their target demographic supports their positions. There will always be some fans who disagree but I don't think they will suffer any net harm. Jackie's fan demographic is very different and much more conservative but I believe that even in her case she suffered no net harm when she associated herself with Trump and LGBT. I believe her continuing decline in popularity is due to reduced interest in CC and her reduced child prodigy appeal. Really? The other possibility is that she hit the trifecta with that. She had become an instant heroine for the conservatives by accepting the gig, and an instant lightning rod for the liberals for having the audacity to 'go to his aid'. Next, LGBTQ thing, where she [fairly respectfully, but publicly] stated her case against Trump's position, causing the conservatives to recoil AND all anti-LGBTQ fans [mostly conservatives?] turned on her without her picking up many liberals in return. Finally, the faith-based public discovers she likes LBGTQ, probably without understanding quite ALL of it, and THEY turn on her. Interest in her art has dropped off the edge of the Earth [at least for now]. What you are saying is very true indeed. But it only applies to the segment of the population that cares about the politics or religion of their entertainers. I believe there is a larger segment that doesn't care. They can be fans of Muhammad Ali and don't care that he is Muslim even though they may have doubts about Muslims. They may like Meryl Streep movies and not care that she is feminist, pro-Democrat and anti-Trump, even though they themselves may be none of the above. Let's call these fans "non-political" fans (vs "political" fans). By 2017, Jackie's popularity was waning and most of the general public were unaware of her, because they had either forgotten about her or never knew her in the first place. Jackie's association with Trump and LGBT greatly improved her exposure. Among the unaware general public, it was a no-lose proposition for Jackie. She might turn off the "political" population but they would otherwise have been unaware of her in any case. But she got exposed to the "non-political" population who might have become fans if they liked her music. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 25, 2018 10:05:30 GMT -5
It has been said that the only effective form of gun control is self-control The US has the least gun control and the highest gun death rate among developed countries. I find it hard to believe that people in every other developed country have that much more self control than we do. So I think they have lower gun death rates because they have more gun control. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 10:10:03 GMT -5
It has been said that the only effective form of gun control is self-control The US has the least gun control and the highest gun death rate among developed countries. I find it hard to believe that people in every other developed country have that much more self control than we do. So I think they have lower gun death rates because they have more gun control. They don't. They just express their out-of-control passions by other means and/or in other forms. It is a culture that indoctrinates its people. In the U.S. we are taught to solve problems by force and take revenge. It's the "American Way." Therefore, a person must transcend his culture.... So it is said: Be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. |
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Post by richard on Mar 25, 2018 10:41:23 GMT -5
The second Amendment was for the big picture not to prevent little homicides here and there that is what the police are supposed to do and they were the ones that let everybody down. It is like an insurance policy against government tyranny, and invasion.
Tell me about some of those developed nations, 170,000,000 people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments that is more than all the wars combined in the 20th century. Always gun confiscation preceded the mas killing. Even if there was 1000 gun murders a day it would take 465 years to equal that number. Yesterday looked like Hitlers little youth marches where one one side of the issue is allowed.
This is the type of history that should be shown in schools.
What is sad is kids are not taught anything about this type of history.
Because I posted this on either Millie or Grace's instagram and instead of getting bombarded by a bunch of BS remarks like I thought I would get several wanted to know if that was really true so I found the video and posted where they could find it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 13:39:26 GMT -5
So where does this leave the individual who lives under an ungodly government he cannot change because of the prevailing culture?
He can live the Divine Law with devotion and gratitude. Then he will be truly free and at peace with himself
and the world, regardless of the conditions he finds himself in.
Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives, do I give to you. Let not your heart
be troubled, nor let it be fearful.
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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 25, 2018 16:31:21 GMT -5
The second Amendment was for the big picture not to prevent little homicides here and there that is what the police are supposed to do and they were the ones that let everybody down. It is like an insurance policy against government tyranny, and invasion. Tell me about some of those developed nations, 170,000,000 people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments that is more than all the wars combined in the 20th century. Always gun confiscation preceded the mas killing. Even if there was 1000 gun murders a day it would take 465 years to equal that number. Yesterday looked like Hitlers little youth marches where one one side of the issue is allowed. This is the type of history that should be shown in schools. What is sad is kids are not taught anything about this type of history. Because I posted this on either Millie or Grace's instagram and instead of getting bombarded by a bunch of BS remarks like I thought I would get several wanted to know if that was really true so I found the video and posted where they could find it. I support the right of people to own guns and defend themselves. I believe we need to stop guns from falling into the wrong hands. I support: 1. Mandatory gun registration so we know where all the guns are located. 2. Comprehensive background checks so that guns don't fall into the wrong hands (e.g. felons, terrorists, mentally ill). 3. Mandatory training and testing so that gun owners prove they know how to handle their guns, like drivers have to demonstrate that they are competent to drive. 4. Limits on gun features (automatic fire, silencers, high capacity magazines, etc) and ownership of excessive number of guns, since none of this is necessary for self defense. 5. Registration of ammo purchases so we know who is buying ammo and how much. |
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Post by richard on Mar 25, 2018 18:28:24 GMT -5
The second Amendment was for the big picture not to prevent little homicides here and there that is what the police are supposed to do and they were the ones that let everybody down. It is like an insurance policy against government tyranny, and invasion. Tell me about some of those developed nations, 170,000,000 people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments that is more than all the wars combined in the 20th century. Always gun confiscation preceded the mas killing. Even if there was 1000 gun murders a day it would take 465 years to equal that number. Yesterday looked like Hitlers little youth marches where one one side of the issue is allowed. This is the type of history that should be shown in schools. What is sad is kids are not taught anything about this type of history. Because I posted this on either Millie or Grace's instagram and instead of getting bombarded by a bunch of BS remarks like I thought I would get several wanted to know if that was really true so I found the video and posted where they could find it. I support the right of people to own guns and defend themselves. I believe we need to stop guns from falling into the wrong hands. I support: 1. Mandatory gun registration so we know where all the guns are located. 2. Comprehensive background checks so that guns don't fall into the wrong hands (e.g. felons, terrorists, mentally ill). 3. Mandatory training and testing so that gun owners prove they know how to handle their guns, like drivers have to demonstrate that they are competent to drive. 4. Limits on gun features (automatic fire, silencers, high capacity magazines, etc) and ownership of excessive number of guns, since none of this is necessary for self defense. 5. Registration of ammo purchases so we know who is buying ammo and how much. I would say any of those should be enough for the people to revolt against a tyrant government. Owning guns is a right, driving on the street is a privilege. You can drive on your property all you want without a license. So #1 none of the government's business, #2 do you have the government deciding who gets the other rights granted by the bill of rights, #3 people have been learning how to shoot guns on their own for 600 years they don't need the government telling them how to do it. #4 the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with self protection all Americans citizens should be able to buy an M4 the same as the army uses. #5 another none of the government's business. Sounds like the same rules in place in Germany and the other countries before they started to killing million of their own people. Once you hear someone talk about hunting and self defense, you know they don't know anything about the 2nd amendment. |
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Post by BOGC on Mar 25, 2018 19:21:23 GMT -5
an state controlled armored vehicle coming to take your weapons in order to subjugate you and your neighborhood watch group. While that is not an everyday situation, WE THE PEOPLE are expected to 'be prepared'. Like the FBI subjugating the cult in Waco TX? A "well ordered militia" made sense in 1776 but it would be hard to argue how ANY militia, well ordered or otherwise, would make any sense now. Jefferson actually thought that the Constitution might well need a periodic rewrite, and we might well need a periodic revolution to do the equivalent of "drain the swamp". Given the high number of career politicians in DC, the low level of voter turnout, and that incumbents usually get re-elected unless they're utterly hopeless, he might not have been wrong; the ballot box hasn't been effective at creating fast enough turnover to reduce corruption, cronyism, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 19:42:03 GMT -5
Like the FBI subjugating the cult in Waco TX? A "well ordered militia" made sense in 1776 but it would be hard to argue how ANY militia, well ordered or otherwise, would make any sense now. Jefferson actually thought that the Constitution might well need a periodic rewrite, and we might well need a periodic revolution to do the equivalent of "drain the swamp". Given the high number of career politicians in DC, the low level of voter turnout, and that incumbents usually get re-elected unless they're utterly hopeless, he might not have been wrong; the ballot box hasn't been effective at creating fast enough turnover to reduce corruption, cronyism, etc. Term limits would go a long way in reducing corruption, and in keeping the swamp in check. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Mar 25, 2018 19:47:21 GMT -5
the ballot box hasn't been effective at creating fast enough turnover to reduce corruption, cronyism, etc. Can't argue with you there. We elected Trump to get rid of the OLD corrupt officials and cronies. Now they have been replaced by a NEW set of corrupt officials and cronies. |
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