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Post by Beachguy on Aug 7, 2019 9:46:07 GMT -5
1,600 were shot in the Windy City so far this YEAR , hand guns , 50 last week end , who cares ? no one except the parents or more correctly parent , no guns city ?? , if no guns it would be baseball balls etc ect , dem bad dudes will find a way Plus now the cops on the streets don't give a scrap because they are blamed if a black get killed by a cop , if shot by black guy then that is ok , same in Baltimore and other cities .....you lose the cops ...you lose the streets ...you lose peace , take the cops off the streets you go back to the wild west .
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 7, 2019 9:46:43 GMT -5
That leaves 3% of America's population that are Black males between 15 and 35 years of age. THAT 3% cohort commits about half of all murders/unjustified homicides in my country. That is very interesting. Can you provide a link?
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 7, 2019 9:55:41 GMT -5
The one that is being held by the best means of best results of where the gun is pointed to do the most damage , waste no bullet .
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Post by richard on Aug 7, 2019 10:37:35 GMT -5
In my opinion and I shot a lot of guns, if I had to choose between the two it would be no doubt that I would go with the AR-15 for the following reason, the one shown has a heavy barrel the mini doesn't. the Ar-15 has much better iron sites than the mini. The AR-15 has a chrome lined barrel and chamber the mini doesn't. The AR-15 barrel is inline with your shoulder ( the reason it needs higher sites, where the handle comes in to play ). less muzzle rise in rapid firing. The most important thing in my opinion is the AR-15 platforms are set up to handle many modern attachments like Acog scopes.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 7, 2019 10:37:59 GMT -5
Y'all had that before San Bernadino, and even more recently Sacramento, yes? How'd that help in those cases? It seems a pointless exercise if the goal is to prevent a crazy from harming others... maybe we should control the crazies? Perhaps registration as a crazy would work? That would be 30% of the population
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 7, 2019 10:48:59 GMT -5
The people made this Hitler , not even from Germany ..not one German had the courage that could stop him .
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Post by BOGC on Aug 7, 2019 10:55:51 GMT -5
That leaves 3% of America's population that are Black males between 15 and 35 years of age. THAT 3% cohort commits about half of all murders/unjustified homicides in my country. That is very interesting. Can you provide a link? I can't speak to where he got those exact numbers, but something similar can be found on table 1 (page 3) of the following: www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf Nothing in there shows combined race, gender, and age demographics, but all are obviously high in the categories agog mentioned. There's a lot of theories (elsewhere), ranging from the far left's economic one (simplistically, that the deprived are more violent) to theories based on stresses, subcultures, population density, etc. Nobody responsible is saying that genetics causes the problem. And certainly nobody is saying that people can't behave better than their circumstances...but quite often, they don't, which does nothing to improve either circumstances or subsequent behavior.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 8, 2019 12:08:51 GMT -5
many years ago i worked as a manager of 6 small food chain joints in Pittsburgh open 24 hours and a number of waitresses on night turn would have a small gun in their purse , one in the bad section of East End was a little Italian lady over 60 years old , the stores would get held up at about 3am with a person with a gun few times a year , i was in one two times , it got to be normal with some stores , after he would leave i would say you ok Mary ? , she says yea , i say ok here is more money , have a good night . After 1am in some cities you dare not enter unless you are street wise and street smart and never alone . Today i know a man that runs a site that teaches gun safety and teaching how to use a gun to get a carrying gun licence , he told me 50% are women , mostly single but not all .
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 8, 2019 12:35:18 GMT -5
Back Ground Checks ? duh !! the killers in Windy City And Baltimore etc etc etc etc are not going to take one , they are useless in the whole SCOPE of stopping gun violence in poor cities which greatly outnumber these mass shooting numbers , in Baltimore 13 middle schools not one black student passed the common math test , NO ONE !!!! for money are they going to get a job ? 70% of black births are of unwed girls , the black race is losing countless males a year , yet no one talks about it on the news , what happened to BLACK LIVES MATTER ? , where are the many black sports millionaires ? , in 70 years or sooner there will be in the USA of a country of shades of color not black or white , did you ever watch the movie ""No Country For Old Men "" , ten********** ...
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 8, 2019 12:43:05 GMT -5
Do you know what would happen if say 10 REAL terrorists entered a football stadium with 100,000 fans and used what ever they had under the overcoat and wanted to die in the process , it will happen some day ...Book it .
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 9, 2019 10:47:47 GMT -5
There are red flags of 90% of troubled minds that kill , some are not bright but they are there to ones eye and mind if clearly open , it all goes to what is freedom of thoughts and speech or writings , who is the word Sheriff ? , very complex means to investigate and report , to who , to what , to get involved , most parent or parents surely have the answer but won't or don't take action for a number of reasons , they fail to think it may be best for the person before the person takes deadly action ..
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 9, 2019 10:57:00 GMT -5
Few years ago we had a neighbor that we all knew was a little off and had bad temper , yes some said he could or will kill somebody , yes he got mad over a gal near by and used a knife to stab another fellow , the fellow lost too much blood to be helped .I stayed away from him from the minute i first talked to him ..
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Post by agog on Aug 11, 2019 22:24:07 GMT -5
So this is the bottom line for all of you who are against gun control: what do you propose to do about all these gun killings, which far exceed those in other first world countries? Or are you saying that we should simply live with it because there is nothing that can or should be done? Easy to answer scf. But it's very late and I've posted a bunch tonight. I'll come back to this post tomorrow night. Humans are funny, scf. Jesus refers to us as sheep, and we are. Jews refer to us as Goyim (cattle) and we are. Hindus say the vast majority of us live in Maya, the illusion. Plato put it in allegorical terms by writing that our situation is as if we are in a cave, chained so we can only see the back wall where beings who wish to keep us in ignorance, therefore easier to control and manipulate, make shadows from artificial light that we interpret as reality. The VERY few who can escape their chains have a difficult time getting past the source of the artificial light without being adopted or coopted by the beings. The even fewer who can evade the lure of being a controller and actually make to the opening of the cave see a true reality, lit by the Sun and can therefore become truly rational (if only because their "data" is real). Their messages or appearances back to those still in chains are ignored by the masses who still believe they are viewing reality as depicted by the shadows on the wall. Edward(?) Bernays, an early Twentieth Century sociologist, deduced that we humans, just like sheep, cattle or ducklings, can be manipulated by suggestion. That we exist in a near hypnotic state. He is known as the father of modern propaganda/advertising. So here's some reality. The world's governments murder by the tens of millions. Mao Zedong. Stalin. Hitler. Churchill. Roosevelt. Johnson, Pol Pot. Fidel. Allende. The list is near endless. Abortion has murdered over sixty million in America alone since 1973. Medical malpractice/error is the single biggest cause of death in the U.S. Tens of thousands. Don't ask me for a link. Look it up. Vehicle deaths run fairly even with suicides. Tens of thousands each. YET! The few hundred mass shootings in the U.S. have the entire, or so it seems, Western World demanding that a hundred million law abiding people give up their RIGHT to defend themselves against criminality with the most effective self defense implement ever devised, namely a firearm. Shocking as mass shootings of random strangers is to our sensibilities, Bernays would be impressed with how our elites have conditioned us to ignore millions of murders committed in the name of the state, millions of murders committed for convenience ( a woman's "choice" don'cha know) tens of thousands of deaths each through the other agencies listed above, while railing on about the relatively miniscule number of deaths caused by firearms in the U.S. Do some very easy and, for now, easily available research on who commits crime. Quit being led down the path of restricting the law abiding thinking THAT will deter criminality. Punish criminals! Punish them QUICKLY. Punish them SEVERLY. Leave innocent people go about their lawful business. Ask yourself why is it the elite, the controlling beings, want us sheep unarmed. Why do they want the carnage and mayhem that will follow if regular people have no effective means of defending themselves and their family and community from the predations of flash mobs of angry criminals. Ask yourself why you follow their wishes for us.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 12, 2019 14:42:18 GMT -5
FBI >> more killed by clubs , bats , hammers , then rifles 467 to 403 & 4 times more die from stabbings then rifles . Again & Again !!! IT IS NOT THE OBJECT >>>IT IS THE HUMAN . UK >> Boris says he wants 20,000 more police & stop & search & 10,000 more prisons , guess he sees the future or the USA .
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Post by Disappointed on Aug 12, 2019 16:43:00 GMT -5
YET! The few hundred mass shootings in the U.S. have the entire, or so it seems, Western World demanding that a hundred million law abiding people give up their RIGHT to defend themselves against criminality with the most effective self defense implement ever devised, namely a firearm. No one in the US ever had the "right" to bear anything more dangerous than a musket. That was about the most dangerous weapon at the time unless someone wanted to drag a cannon around with them. That was the weapon of war, not these current day assault rifles. That was the weapon that was in the minds of those in charge at the time that "right" was put into law. If only those lack-of-foresight goofs who wrote the Constitution had written "the right to bear muskets" and "the right to bear duelling pistols", what a different story this would all be.
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